00:37.2
Gusto ko sa ngang tao. Ito mga collabs, pansin mo, Mark.
00:40.3
Parang ganda ng mga feedbacks, pansin ko.
00:44.5
So, Sir Mark, ano po ang latest dyan muna sa inko laga?
00:49.7
Ito muna ang pag-uusapan natin. There's so much to discuss.
00:53.3
SMNI, Endgame, Duterte vs. De Lima.
00:56.4
I mean, Duterte vs. De.
00:58.3
5, 2.0. Pero bago lahat mong ngayon.
01:05.0
Marites muna, showbiz muna.
01:06.5
Oo, marites na. Legit marites.
01:08.4
Big time yan. Legally speaking, malaking issue yan.
01:10.4
Kasi may mga kilala tayo na involved sa issue na yan before.
01:13.4
So, kahit hindi na sila directly involved ngayon, they were super happy about,
01:17.8
or not necessarily super happy, basta they said big, big development yan.
01:21.2
For the sake of yung mga hindi nag-upload, update, sorry,
01:24.4
dun sa mga back and forth between ito, mga noontime giants,
01:27.5
ano po yung, what was the case, and how was it resolved,
01:31.3
and paano ito tugma sa expectation mo, at anong implication na ito?
01:36.8
Yun. So, nung Tuesday,
01:39.0
tama ba? Ano ba ngayon?
01:40.5
Nung Tuesday, lumabas yung decision coming from the IPO.
01:46.3
Kasi the whole time, ang attention ng tao,
01:49.1
nandoon sa Marikina court case.
01:51.9
Yung sa Marikina kasi, that is for the copyright.
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Okay? Yung sa IPO,
01:57.5
for the trademark.
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Kasi nung nagsimula yung buong gulo na ito,
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nag-file ng request for cancellation.
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Move nila to cancel yung trademark na pag-aari ng tape.
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So, tumagal ng mga six months,
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at lumabas yung decision a few days ago,
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na kinakan sila yung trademark na pag-aari ng tape.
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parang sinabi nung attorney nila,
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na yung kay Joey DeLeon na trademark,
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yun ang ma-approve.
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So, nung Wednesday,
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nag-presscon sila,
02:38.0
nag-attend ako nung presscon,
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doon nila in-explain lahat yung mga pangyayari.
02:43.3
And ang epekto nito,
02:44.9
ay they started using na yung e-pulaga kaagad.
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Before kasi, for the last six months,
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EAT lang sila, EAT.
02:52.7
They were playing safe.
02:54.6
Kasi if they use e-pulaga,
02:56.0
the other side, for sure,
02:58.7
will file charges,
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will file trademark infringement.
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So, siguro, they decided on their part,
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nahintayin lang muna yung process.
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They changed the name to EAT.
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Pero ngayong lumabas na yung kanilang trademark,
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and it was awarded to Joey DeLeon,
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kumaka sinasabi na nalang e-pulaga parate
03:22.5
Kasi before, yung sa theme song, EAT lang.
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Tapos, yung mga audience,
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ganoon din, they are e-pulaga na.
03:30.9
Pero yung name ng show, EAT pa rin.
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Siguro, they plan to revert back
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to e-pulaga by January 1.
03:38.0
Parang ganoon yung plano nila.
03:39.8
Sa panig naman ng tape,
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they still can appeal.
03:44.7
Pwede nalang i-appeal yung desisyon na to.
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una doon sa Bureau of Legal Affairs ng IPO,
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tapos yung head ng IPO,
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tapos Court of Appeals,
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tapos Supreme Court.
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So maraming levels pa
03:59.9
yung pwede nalang pag-appealan.
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Pero ang problema lang nga,
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as of now, wala silang trademark registration,
04:06.9
yung side ng TVJ ang meron.
04:09.9
So yun ang problem-facing tape ngayon.
04:13.9
Interesting. So what you're saying is,
04:15.9
come 2024, in 3 weeks' time or so,
04:19.9
magiging e-pulaga na yung nasa TV5,
04:21.9
yung sila Joey DeLeon,
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the original trio,
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and then yung GMA Network,
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baka sila nalang kailangan ng EAT?
04:27.7
I mean, like, what's gonna happen?
04:29.7
Kasi siyempre mahabang usapan yan.
04:30.7
If they're gonna appeal it,
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and if this is gonna go all the way to the Supreme Court,
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it could take years,
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if not a decade or so.
04:36.7
So ano yung maritas ngayon,
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inside industry maritas,
04:41.7
in terms of branding?
04:42.7
Kasi magre-rebranding na ulit,
04:43.7
back to e-pulaga yung isa sa TV5.
04:51.7
yung statement ng tape,
04:53.7
Nagsalita si Paulo Contes,
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kasi hindi nag-respond sa TVJ,
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na kahit anong mangyari,
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we are still here,
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at tapos he ended by saying na kami ang,
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this is EAT Bulaga.
05:10.7
So nabash na naman si Paulo Contes ulit
05:14.7
Mukhang matigas sila sa ngayon,
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eh, pero we don't know how long.
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Tinanong yung TVJ if they are planning to,
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magpa-file ng additional charges
05:26.7
or additional mga support.
05:31.7
So they are just going to wait doon sa copyright na case.
05:35.7
Yun na lang yung gagamitin nila na kaso
05:40.7
to try to stop tape from using EAT Bulaga.
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kasi explain ko lang din ha,
05:47.7
para sa mga hindi pamilyar.
05:49.7
Yung dalawang case yan,
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oo, dalawang case yan.
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IPO at saka trademark.
05:56.7
Hindi, IPO and trademark is yun, isa.
05:59.7
One is IPO para sa trademark,
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the other one is parikina para sa copyright.
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So yung napanalunan,
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Intellectual Property,
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yung isa sa Intellectual Property Office,
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yung sa copyright, yung isa sa trademark.
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Okay, baka explain.
06:14.7
Trademark yung sa Intellectual Property Office.
06:16.7
Yan yung napanalunan nila Joey De Leon kahapon,
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And yung copyright naman sa marikina,
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anong expectation?
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Yung copyright naman,
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para sa mga hindi pamilyar doon sa case,
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actually basta ang ganda na strategy eh,
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explain ko later ha.
06:32.7
Yung copyright, ang kinaso nila sa tape,
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ay dahil doon sa after they resign,
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nag-resign sila nung kalagitna ng taon, diba?
06:42.7
The next few days,
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nagpalabas ng replay itong tape
06:48.7
Nang old episodes ng Keith Pulaga.
06:50.7
So copyright infringement, yun yung sinasabi nila?
06:53.7
Copyright infringement yung kanilang senile.
06:55.7
Dahil doon sa mga araw na yun,
06:57.7
they showed episodes with Tito Vic and Joey
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nang walang pahintulot mula sa Tito Vic and Joey.
07:03.7
Ang malaking problema kasi ng tape dito,
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lahat ng mga dealings with Tito Vic and Joey,
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walang kontrata lahat.
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So for the last 44 years, walang kontrata,
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walang, everything was a handshake.
07:18.7
And everything was alright for the last 44 years.
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Hindi ko alam yun ah.
07:22.7
Totally verbal agreement lahat.
07:24.7
Verbal agreement lahat.
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The biggest, biggest, biggest entertainment show in the country.
07:28.7
Grabe ah. This is crazy, bro.
07:31.7
Oo. Siguro yung sa mga bago na.
07:33.7
Pero pagdating kay Tito, kay Vic and Joey,
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So kung maayos lang sana yung papers nila,
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baka na-turnover sa kanila ni Joey yung trademark.
07:44.7
Kasi usually ganun eh, diba?
07:46.7
Pagpuproduce ako ng show, gusto ko sa akin yung trademark.
07:49.7
Ito turn over mo sa akin.
07:51.7
So yun nakalagay yun sa kontrata.
07:54.7
Wala silang kahit anong contract for the last 44 years.
07:57.7
So kaya kumampi yung IPO kay Joey dila yun.
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Pero balik tayo doon sa copyright.
08:03.7
So they are suing for damages worth 21 million.
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Dahil doon sa first suit na yun.
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Pero sa akin kasi, hindi yun yung main goal talaga nila eh.
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Kasi pag pera, this is not about money.
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This is not about money.
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Kaya nila yun, 21 million, peanuts yan sa kanila.
08:21.7
Ang nakakabit doon sa copyright case ay yung injunction.
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They also filed injunction na habang tumatakbo yung mga hearings,
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na the other side cannot use Eat Bulaga as a title for their show.
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So ngayong lumabas na yung trademark sa kanila,
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baka yun na lang, hintayin na lang nilang lumabas yung injunction
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para yung court na,
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yung magpipilit kay tape na palitan yung pangalan.
08:47.7
Pero either way, yung TVJ ngayon, they can just wait naman.
08:51.7
Kasi either way naman, ang tingin ng tao, sila yung Eat Bulaga.
08:54.7
Ang tingin ng batas, sila yung Eat Bulaga.
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So even if the other side uses Eat Bulaga, bahala kayo dyan.
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Basta kami, recognize kami ng tao, recognize kami ng IPO, okay na kami.
09:06.7
So parang ganun yung lumalabas ngayon pagdating dito sa awayan nila.
09:11.7
Right, so the way it looks like it, I mean, if I were to say,
09:15.7
for me, the bigger one is really yung trademark issue.
09:19.7
Kasi the copyright one is just punitive, no?
09:21.7
For alleged interest in copyright.
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And 21 million is peanuts, given how big this business is.
09:27.7
But actually, I didn't know, ngayon ko lang nalaman, bro na,
09:30.7
this was verbal agreement, decade to decade, ganun ka level ng closest.
09:36.7
Hindi ba nila na-anticipate na one day baka maging anak na yung kausap,
09:40.7
kapatid na yung kapatid, you know what I'm saying?
09:42.7
Like this is, parang...
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Kasi no one expected the show to last for 44 years.
09:46.7
Kasi wala namang tumatala yun.
09:48.7
That's true, 30th year.
09:50.7
That's why, that's why tape, that's why nag-file yung tape ng trademark 2013.
09:58.7
Okay, ang sinasabi ng PDJ na you filed behind our backs without us knowing.
10:05.7
So yun yung sinasabi nila. It was done in bad faith.
10:09.7
Paano nila mag-file yung trademark?
10:11.7
Corporate betrayal.
10:12.7
Parang ganun yun.
10:13.7
How can they file that when they do not own that?
10:16.7
They do not own the trademark.
10:18.7
May mga nag-aaway na lawyers dito.
10:20.7
Kasi may mga lawyers na nagsasabi na pagdating daw sa trademark, dapat daw first to file.
10:26.7
Kung ikaw yung nag-first to file, you should own the trademark.
10:29.7
Pero mayroon na mga nagsasabi at yung sinabi din sa decision ng IPO, it doesn't mean na first ka nag-file, na ikaw na yung may-ari.
10:36.7
Automatic papunta sa'yo. You have to establish na talaga.
10:38.7
You have to establish that you created the trademark.
10:43.7
Intellectual contribution.
10:45.7
Sina-joke nila yun. Na-establish nila yun. Nakwento niya yung buong story.
10:50.7
The name it Bulaga, doon niya naisip sa kitchen ni Tito Soto.
10:54.7
And kinuwento niya yung story. Bakit it? Bakit Bulaga?
10:58.7
So mayroon siyang mahabang story ng gano'n.
11:00.7
Ang sinasabi doon sa decision ng IPO, Tate, hindi nila na-dispute.
11:07.7
Or hindi nila na-contra yung story to prove otherwise.
11:12.7
Kasi kung hindi mo mapatunayan na ikaw yung gumawa ng trademark, kailangan ka magpakita ng papeles na mayroong transfer.
11:22.7
Na transfer sa'yo.
11:24.7
So yun ang pinakaiba ng mga current example ABS-CBN.
11:28.7
Lahat ng shows nila, kumpleto sa kontrata.
11:31.7
So they make sure that they own all the IP.
11:34.7
Diba? Sa ngayon, maayos na lahat yung mga papeles.
11:37.7
LSA, ABS, GMA, TP5.
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So unlike noong 1979, noong una silang nagkasama-sama, wala lahat.
11:44.7
Wala yung mga gano'n. Hindi nila naisip.
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At yun na nga yung naging problema ngayon.
11:49.7
Ang nangyari pa, yung Tate, na-late sila ng pag-file ng sagot.
11:57.7
Kasi yung kay Joey De Leon, tumatakbo yung kanyang registration.
12:04.7
They were given 30 days to dispute.
12:06.7
To appeal yung kanyang, or contrahen yung kanyang registration.
12:13.7
They filed, I think, 4 days after.
12:17.7
They were citing parang mga technical stuff kung bakit na-late.
12:21.7
Pero na-late pa rin.
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So hindi natanggap yung kanilang sinubmit na rason
12:27.7
or pag-contra doon sa sinabi ni Joey.
12:30.7
At ito yung sinasabi ko, I think yun yung brilliance nung naging strategy ng TBJ
12:34.7
for the last 6 months.
12:36.7
Lahat ng atensyon ay nandoon sa Marikina for the copyright case.
12:41.7
Yes. In fact, August, I remember this very...
12:45.7
Napoleonic move yan ah. Medyo Napoleonic maneuver.
12:48.7
Oo. Nung August ah, in-interview namin si Tito Soto.
12:53.7
And this was the time na-renew for 10 years yung trademark ng Tate.
13:04.7
So nagpasok nung 2023, June, na-renew nila, lumabas.
13:08.7
So they were celebrating na.
13:10.7
Tito Soto said this during the interview.
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Sabi niya, sa kanila na yung trademark, basta sa amin yung copyright.
13:17.7
He said that, and ako tataka, why would he say that?
13:21.7
Why would they give up on the trademark?
13:23.7
Yun yung iniisip ko. Hindi ko sinasabi at that time.
13:26.7
Pero takang-taka talaga ako.
13:28.7
Yun pala, the whole time, habang sinasabi niya yun, yung lawyers,
13:32.7
we're working on the IPO and the trademark.
13:35.7
Kasi yun eh, kapag napanalo mo yung trademark, tapos na yung boxing.
13:39.7
Like you said, yung copyright is punitive eh.
13:42.7
So yun yung isa sa talagang strategy nila which worked well.
13:49.7
And yun nga, nanalo na nga ngayon.
13:51.7
So ngayon, they just have to defend it lang from mga appeals ng Tate.
13:55.7
Yeah, so wow. That's very interesting legal story also.
13:59.7
Siguro maybe next time, try na natin interviewin si...
14:01.7
Alam mo si Atty. Star Elampara, di ba yung interview natin?
14:05.7
Kasi she knows the thing or directly what mga issue na yun.
14:09.7
Siguro we can talk about the legal part.
14:12.7
But from what I gather here, it looks like A, nagbigay ng...
14:16.7
Kunyari nag-white flag na, tanggap na naman yan.
14:19.7
We lost the big fight, let's just settle for some.
14:21.7
Yun pala, they're still working on the big one.
14:23.7
And the second one is yes, one is really proprietary,
14:26.7
the other one is really punitive, di ba?
14:28.7
Pag panalo ka na sa trademark, anong babayaran mo na?
14:30.7
Anong babayaran mo na lang sa mga punishments sa copyright infringement?
14:33.7
Wala na yan. You got the golden goose.
14:36.7
You got the golden goose.
14:38.7
It's a very interesting case.
14:40.7
Aba talagang legal reporter ka na ngayon pare ah.
14:43.7
I spent how many days? Eight days.
14:46.7
Walong araw akong sa Marikina every time na lahat ng mga nag-testify.
14:51.7
So nagsimula yan si Joey De Leon, si Tito Soto.
14:55.7
Tapos yung sa kabilang side, nag-testify si Romy Jalozos Sr.
15:00.7
Si Malucho Fagara, yung mga big names doon sa kabila.
15:03.7
So I attended yung mga hearings.
15:06.7
I wasn't able to watch the proceedings pero na-interview ko sila before and after.
15:10.7
Including yung mga abogado, si Atty. Buko and si Atty. Maggie doon sa side ng tape.
15:16.7
Celebrity lawyers na sila, sumikat sila dito sa case na ito.
15:21.7
It's really the case of the year talaga.
15:25.7
Actually ano eh, case of the century. I mean from what I understand.
15:28.7
Kasi some people close to me na mga legal people ang kinausap ko na involved pa rin sa case na yan hanggang today.
15:36.7
They were telling me about how this is turning big na wow.
15:41.7
So ala tatakbo ng senador na yung isa.
15:44.7
He is polling at number two parate. Just behind Erwin Tulfo.
15:51.7
So one and two sila parate. So medyo sure na tatakbo for Senate siguro si Tito.
15:57.7
Pero may laban din yung kabila kasi nag top five, top six naman yung isang host sa kabila si JMA Network sa Senatorio.
16:07.7
Oo. Pero yung nga si Yorme naman is just a host. Hindi naman siya...
16:11.7
Kasi in the end this is a battle naman of Tito Vic and Joey and the Halos Host eh.
16:16.7
So silang dalawa naman yung ano.
16:18.7
Si Paolo madalas nababa siya pero sa akin dapat the host naman should be separate naman.
16:24.7
Kasi it's not their fight.
16:25.7
It's really the fight lang talaga nung...
16:28.7
Oo nung dalawang mag-partner na yun before na nahati ng ganyan.
16:32.7
So medyo tagilid. This is the latest na I'm hearing now.
16:36.7
Merong mga article kasi na lumabas from the side nung tape.
16:39.7
Ito yung mga vloggers na malapit sa kanila.
16:44.7
So medyo tinitingnan ko din yung mga signs.
16:48.7
Na tape is starting to look daw for possible names na pwede nalang ipalit.
16:56.7
Sa Itbolaga in case lumabas yung injunction.
17:02.7
So wala silang choice. They really need to change.
17:05.7
So they are looking na at possible names na pwedeng ipalit.
17:08.7
And at the same time they have informed their advertisers daw according dun sa article na of the possible name change.
17:16.7
And the advertisers agreed or nag-read.
17:19.7
Ibig sabihin walang problema sa advertisers even if they change their names.
17:23.7
Sa GMA wala namang problema.
17:24.7
Kasi block time sila hanggang end of 2024.
17:27.7
So kahit anong show ilagay nila doon, walang problema sa GMA.
17:30.7
So reporter na nila yung market na yan for one year.
17:33.7
Do you have any idea what are the potential name replacements?
17:36.7
So what we're saying is that there's more than 50% chance na EAT will be Itbolaga come January 1 or somewhere along those lines.
17:45.7
And then yung kabila because well they're appealing in all of that.
17:48.7
But as things stand hindi na nila pwede gamitin yung Itbolaga very soon.
17:52.7
So what are the possible alternative names na pwede gamitin ng GMA?
17:57.7
Let's just call it the Paolo Contis Club.
17:59.7
Huwag na lang si Orme.
18:00.7
Huwag na lang natin dami si Orme kasi gawa mo si Orme bago lang siya dito eh.
18:04.7
Eto bro, anong marites, internal marites mo?
18:10.7
Ang pinakamalapit, ang out of the races they use is Tahanang Pinakamasaya.
18:19.7
Pero parang hindi siya pasok for a name ng ano eh.
18:21.7
Pero yun yung tagline nila eh, Tahanang Pinakamasaya.
18:24.7
Which is parang tape, diba? Tahanang Pinakamasaya.
18:27.7
Gisa Gedby, yung portion ni Orme.
18:30.7
That's another one.
18:32.7
And another one, yung portion nila, yung parang Bulagaan dati, is EB Happy.
18:38.7
Kaso there's a problem din doon.
18:40.7
Kasi ang desisyon ng IPO includes both Bulaga and EB.
18:46.7
And lahat nang...
18:47.7
So baka ma-trademark din, medyo ma-cost.
18:49.7
Lahat nang pwede i-derive doon.
18:50.7
Unless, papayagan sila ng PDJ na,
18:54.7
O sige, magpapalit kami, EB Happy na lang kami.
18:56.7
Huwag nyo na kaming kontrahin.
18:57.7
Unless, merong ganun silang mapag-usapan.
18:59.7
Arrangement. O, para matapos.
19:01.7
Huwag na kayo mag-appeal.
19:02.7
O, eto na sa inyo, consuelo nyo na yan.
19:04.7
Para tapos ng usapan.
19:06.7
Huwag lang sana Buljakan or Bulagaan or ano yung mga ganyan.
19:12.7
Because even Bulagaan is ano eh.
19:14.7
Derivative siya eh.
19:16.7
Masyado siyang malapit.
19:20.7
Meron din report kanina na baka by January 1,
19:25.7
they will have a new logo.
19:26.7
Eat Bulaga sa TV5 will have a new logo.
19:29.7
Tapos yung theme song, babaguhin na.
19:31.7
Aalisin na yung EAP.
19:32.7
I-re-retire na yung EAP.
19:34.7
And it will just be Eat Bulaga.
19:36.7
Kasi ngayon, ang pangalan pa rin ng show, technically,
19:40.7
Hindi pa rin nila binabago.
19:42.7
Pero during the show,
19:44.7
they mention na parati, Eat Bulaga, Eat Bulaga.
19:47.7
Pero yung pinaka-title na si EAP,
19:49.7
baka by January 1,
19:50.7
they will go full Eat Bulaga.
19:52.7
Kung gusto niyong magkaso,
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ang problema, wala din makakaso yung tape.
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Kasi trademark infringement,
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you don't own a trademark.
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So may mga ganun eh.
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So hindi ko sure kung paano
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ima-manage yun ng taping everyday.
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So my suggestion dito,
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why not, ano na lang,
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para lahat na lang awahin nila.
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Para lahat na lang awahin na nila yung barda gula.
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Sina na lang yung mag-E-A-T.
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Yung E-A-T yan sa GMA7.
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Yung sa ano, yung ano.
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Pero it would be a completely different name.
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Pero ang sinasabi ko din nga,
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it would be advantageous din naman
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to the halos host and to tape.
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Kung magpalit kasi sila ng name,
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una, mababawasan yung galit ng mga tao.
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So maybe we can start with a healing.
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Pangalawa, yung sa mga artista na
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ayaw mag-guess dahil it bulaga yung pangalan nung ano.
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Like for example, Alvin Richards,
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Mga some of the biggest names sa GMA7
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ang hindi nag-eguess doon sa tape na show
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out of respect sa Tito Vic and Joey.
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So kung magpalit sila ng totally different na name,
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pwede na sila ma-host.
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Pwede na. Okay na yun.
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I didn't know that.
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Palabre do honor.
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Something like that.
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Parang may boycott out of sense of honor
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yung mga ibang bigating sa GMA Network
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because of yung kanilang historical ties.
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So kaya pala na parang,
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yun nga, they had the name of it bulaga
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pero parang may boycott na nangyari sa kanila
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nung mga ibang bigating.
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Parang silent boycott.
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So ang pangyari dito is
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they will rebrand
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but at least they'll possibly be able to access
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it ng mga big names.
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Who can help them to build a whole new franchise.
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Which is yun naman talaga yung sinasuggest
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in the first place.
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Kaso humaba tayo ng dito.
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Pero yun nga, actually ang laking issue niyan
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kasi parang for example last week
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nag-guess sa tape it bulaga sa GMA
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si Rochelle Pangilina ng Sexbomb.
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Nag-guess lang yung isang
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Pwede pa rin yung mga Sexbomb people.
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They were ano eh.
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Parang iconic part yan ng it bulaga eh.
22:15.7
Rochelle was the leader of Sexbomb Dancer.
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So ang laking issue din yan.
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Pinag-usapan din.
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Merong ilang nang babash.
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Pataasin pa baba.
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So parang gano'n.
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Parang if you mag-appear ka d'yan sa show ng tape
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parang you arbitrate.
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May mga gano'n nagsasabi.
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Kunti lang naman nung last week.
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Pero it's always an issue.
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So hopefully pag nagpalit ng pangalan
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wala na yung gano'ng issue.
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And they would...
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So parang essentially it's gonna be a new era
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but not necessarily zero-sum.
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In a sense na one side panalo
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and then talo yung kapila.
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No, kapila will have a new start.
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Good reset for original OG it bulaga.
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And then fresh start na sa kabila.
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Kasi may stigma yan eh.
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Siyempre alam natin Pilipinas din yan.
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Siguro kung sa Amerika iba yung kultura nila.
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quite out of respect lang.
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Not even the legal argument
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which now has been settled.
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Parang ayaw mo naman i-deny yung tatlo na yan.
23:15.7
I'm not a fan necessarily of Joey De Leon
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and this kind of people.
23:18.7
But in fairness sa kanila,
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talagang this is their life passion eh.
23:23.7
Parang baby na nila ito eh.
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So ibang usapan yun.
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So I understand bakit yung mga iba na sa industry
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they had to put that silent kind of boycott on this.
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Before we go naman dun sa isa pang interesting development,
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From it bulaga to SM&I.
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I hope I'm not gonna put you in the spot.
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I mean you're close to people on both sides of this.
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How do you navigate that to put it nicely?
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Nung simula ang hirap.
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Nung from the start ang hirap talaga.
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I started covering this issue Feb.
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Nung there were parang maliit na talks pa lang
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about doon sa gulo.
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Sumabog yung issue end of May.
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Tama bang end of May?
24:05.7
Bumalik end of May. Tama.
24:07.7
Nung sumabog yung issue,
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nag-resign yung Tito Vic and Joey.
24:09.7
At that time, kakampi na ako sa Tito Vic and Joey.
24:13.7
So I have taken their side na.
24:16.7
Hindi, most naman eh.
24:18.7
Most of the people naman sa TDJ yung nag-side.
24:22.7
Pag-gets na natin eh.
24:24.7
Siyempre sentimental eh.
24:25.7
Sila yung napapanood mo eh.
24:27.7
A week later, sumama si Yorme sa GMA7.
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So nandun yung, nandun yung ano talaga.
24:38.7
Kasi nandun yung perv lake.
24:39.7
Kasi nandun yung perv lake.
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Kasi nandun yung perv lake.
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Kasi nandun yung perv lake.
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Sorry if I'm spilling some beans.
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But I'm just trying to tell people.
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Si Margambo is not just maritesing this.
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He has been invested in this issue.
24:50.7
He's been following this like an investigative journalist.
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If I can even put it that way.
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So this is me, bro.
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Showing my respect dun sa legwork na ginawa mo sa issue na yan.
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Maraming salamat sa iyo.
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Kasi for me, ikaw yung number one authority.
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Aside from the lawyers involved in this.
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So maybe next time we can talk also to some legal people advice.
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But I really appreciate this one, bro.
25:14.7
So ang ginawa ko na lang.
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Iniwalay ko na lang.
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Kapag politics, isko pa rin ako.
25:20.7
Kapag noontime show, TVJ.
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So ganun ko na lang.
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Merong mga ibang nagagalit.
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Merong mga ibang di makaintindi.
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Pero understandable na yun.
25:31.7
Kasi either way mukhang akong balimbing eh.
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Kasi if I was with TVJ tapos Yorme joined me,
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sasama ko kay Yorme, mukhang akong balimbing.
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If I don't support Yorme doon,
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nag-stay ako with TVJ.
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Doon na lang sa pinaniniwalaan ko.
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What I say naman dito sa TVJ
25:49.7
is yung personal na belief ko doon sa what is happening doon sa...
25:54.7
In fairness, bro.
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I mean, I could see your personal conviction on this issue.
25:57.7
And the fact na honest and transparent ka also about,
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you know, potential conflict of feelings.
26:02.7
Not necessarily interest, but feelings about this.
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But in fairness, bro.
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Baka you are already friends with two upcoming senators.
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In 2025 as they stand.
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And for sure I will campaign for both of them.
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Sa upcoming elections.
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If they decide to run for senator or for local,
26:24.7
So may mga narinig rin niyo.
26:25.7
Wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa! May marites ka na naman.
26:27.7
Gusto ko lang nalang ipag-isapan.
26:29.7
Wala bang teaser?
26:30.7
Wala bang teaser?
26:34.7
Thank you so much.
26:35.7
I really enjoyed this one.
26:39.7
I think this sets the tone for another very interesting and in-depth discussion.
26:43.7
Thank you very much.
