00:31.6
Na hindi mangyayari yung terminator situation
00:35.8
So we had some very interesting discussions a while ago
00:39.0
On the technology, on the legal aspects of it, prohibition, regulation
00:43.7
Also pinag-usapan namin among others
00:46.3
Ways by which we can have international cooperation
00:49.2
Especially with non-superpowers on this issue
00:52.1
Para hindi magiging scary yung mga innovations ng artificial intelligence at weapon systems
00:57.6
Hindi tayo magkakaroon ng terminator
01:01.2
Now, so I was looking very forward to itong discussion natin with Chris Tan
01:07.4
Because we were hoping to talk about a number of things
01:10.4
Of course, he's Chinoy
01:12.2
So I was looking forward to talking to him about
01:15.1
How the Chinoy community deals with itong issue ng West Philippine Sea
01:20.7
And all the racism and xenophobia in the country
01:23.6
And of course, the need to distinguish between the Chinoy brothers, sisters, and Pinoy
01:27.7
Not only by heart, but by citizenship
01:31.7
And the policies of the Communist Party of China
01:34.0
Two are very different
01:34.9
I was looking forward also to discuss with him
01:36.7
How to deal with fanatics
01:38.9
How to deal with haters
01:40.1
How to deal with yung mga tao na ayaw makinig sa katuan
01:43.2
And how to deal with disinformation
01:44.4
So hopefully, God willing, we'll have this tomorrow
01:47.1
So we have to reschedule it
01:49.1
Tomorrow, hopefully 7pm
01:50.5
Ito rin natin discussion natin with Piring Chris Tan
01:53.3
And I look forward to having more discussions with him in the future
01:56.7
On a whole range of issues
01:57.7
Medyo gawin natin na semi-artistical
02:01.4
So good evening din sa inyo
02:02.9
Now, so don't worry
02:05.2
We're cooking up a lot of things here and there
02:07.0
To make sure that we get you
02:08.9
The best of ideas
02:10.9
We get you the best of discussions
02:13.0
On a whole range of issues
02:14.8
In fact, yung isa sa mga gusto natin pag-usapan with Chris Tan is
02:20.7
Digital currencies
02:22.0
Of course, I've always been skeptical of bitcoins
02:25.1
Because if I were really into bitcoins, I would have bought bitcoins noon pa
02:29.7
But at the same time, you know, I'm not a hater of new technologies
02:32.7
Including digital currencies
02:34.0
So there's a lot to discuss there
02:35.3
So it would be nice also to talk to Chris Tan about bitcoin issues
02:38.3
So again, deepest apologies
02:40.3
Third world, I don't know
02:41.6
Hindi nag-work yung internet
02:42.8
Ang dami akong na-close everything
02:44.3
Inulit-ulit namin yung mga connection natin
02:47.2
Ayaw talaga gumana
02:48.6
So despite my best efforts, it means that
02:50.6
Perhaps best na ma-reschedule natin yan
02:52.4
But I look forward to more discussions with him
02:54.0
Now, having said that
02:59.0
Over Twitter, nakita natin
03:00.8
A number of important developments
03:03.1
One is, of course, the Republic of the Philippines
03:05.5
Has finally joined more than 150 nations
03:08.1
Calling for immediate ceasefire
03:10.8
And of course, this is because of the horrible situation
03:13.7
That is happening on the ground right now
03:15.3
We have thousands of children killed
03:17.2
Civilian casualties are really, really high
03:20.4
The worst we have seen
03:23.3
In the Palestinian-Israeli conflict
03:26.5
In quite some time
03:27.3
Thousands of children
03:28.6
More than 100 children per day
03:30.3
Based on some counts we saw
03:32.8
So this is way worse even than what's happening
03:36.6
In other parts of the world
03:37.8
Including the war in Ukraine
03:39.2
So in light of that
03:40.2
More than 150 nations have called for immediate ceasefire
03:43.1
And despite all the talk about
03:46.9
Eliminating the militant group in Gaza
03:49.8
There's little evidence to suggest that
03:52.7
After all of that
03:53.7
Horrible casualties and bombings and airstrikes
03:57.0
There's no evidence that
03:58.0
The militant group responsible for heinous attacks
04:02.5
Is anywhere close to elimination
04:05.1
The Philippines has also revealed
04:07.2
And realized that
04:09.2
It's time for us to call for immediate ceasefire
04:13.5
So that's a good thing
04:14.3
That the Philippines is joining more than 150 nations
04:17.2
Only over 20 countries have stayed
04:19.4
And barely 10 countries
04:23.0
I'm not just going to go through the list
04:24.1
You can know the usual suspects
04:29.4
We hope for a long-term solution
04:32.1
Because all lives matter
04:33.8
Whether on this side of the border
04:35.6
On that side of the border
04:36.5
It's not about taking sides
04:37.7
This is about making sure
04:38.8
We have a just peace
04:40.1
And making sure that
04:42.2
We don't have a situation
04:43.1
Where more than 100 children are killed
04:46.2
No matter who they are
04:47.4
No matter their color, creed, nationality, and religion
04:49.8
That's something that we have to keep in mind
04:53.3
Earlier we also saw updates
04:55.4
That this Speaker of the House
04:57.5
Has mentioned that
04:58.5
One of their legislative priorities
05:01.1
Could be constitutional change
05:03.2
So balik na naman itong isyong chacha
05:05.0
So kung pansin niya sa first two
05:06.8
State of the Nation addresses
05:09.7
Hindi niya pinag-usapan
05:11.9
Yung constitutional change
05:14.6
Kaya first State of the Nation address pa lang niya
05:22.3
Yung mga kaibigan natin sa SMNI
05:24.1
Yung mga world-class journalist
05:25.5
Na kaibigan natin sa
05:29.0
Galit na galit sila
05:31.1
Hindi na-prioritize ni Bongbong Marcos
05:33.9
Yung issue ng chacha
05:36.1
Because as he admitted himself
05:38.6
During election period
05:41.3
I think February 2022
05:42.7
He said something like
05:43.7
Because very controversial
05:45.2
There's no clamor for it
05:49.1
Of course debate about
05:50.2
Whether federalism is really what we need
05:52.5
There's a lot of debate about
05:53.7
Whether charter change is really the way forward
05:57.5
, having said that
06:05.2
Look at the issue of charter change today
06:11.8
Concerns of some camp
06:14.7
2028 could be a way for the
06:17.4
Detertus to come back to power
06:20.0
Parating natin nakikita
06:20.8
Especially mga kadidias natin
06:21.9
Ang followers dyan
06:23.4
Pinag-usapan natin
06:25.3
Revocation of franchise
06:27.9
Every time na pinag-usapan natin
06:29.8
Itong end ng UNITEAM
06:32.8
And potential marginalization
06:35.0
In 2025 elections
06:36.1
Parating nakikita ko
06:36.8
Sa mga comment sections
06:41.0
Sara for the president
06:43.8
Yung mga pangasara din natin
06:49.2
Yung mga kadidias natin
06:50.6
Are thinking that
06:51.7
2028 is gonna be the same as
06:55.8
But things could be
06:56.6
Very very different
06:58.5
Things could be so different
06:59.6
That there may not be
07:04.3
If next year pa lang
07:05.8
Magpupush na sila
07:06.6
For charter change
07:07.6
Meaning they discuss
07:11.1
Of a total overhaul
07:12.6
Of the Philippine
07:13.7
Constitutional order
07:16.9
Probably the 2025 elections
07:18.9
Will not be affected
07:19.9
But after 2025 elections
07:22.1
Whoever dominates
07:23.8
The Philippine Congress
07:26.6
Part of the process
07:29.5
Yung ating saligang batas
07:34.6
Yung kampo ni Tatil Bigong
07:37.2
Moridyo tong PDB laban
07:39.1
More and more people
07:42.7
And Lakas CMD camp
07:44.5
It's increasingly probable
07:47.0
2025 midterm elections
07:49.2
Will be completely dominated
07:50.5
By pro-Marcos people
07:52.2
Or pro-administration people
07:55.3
Some people from the opposition
07:56.6
Or reformist people
07:58.6
Far more comfortable
08:02.0
Undeclared alliance
08:11.2
Siguro mas maraming
08:13.1
Kaysa never Marcos
08:15.1
As far as the opposition
08:19.3
Whatever million people
08:23.1
And the uniteam last year
08:28.1
Many people who voted
08:29.6
But they were not necessarily
08:32.1
They were there perhaps
08:33.5
And there are also
08:34.6
Many people who were there
08:35.9
But not necessarily
08:38.2
Mahabang usapan yan
08:39.3
So as the uniteam
08:41.3
There are big discussions
08:43.1
About what's gonna come next
08:49.5
That the Speaker of the House
08:50.6
Raised a while ago
08:52.3
Economic provisions
08:53.7
Of the Constitution
08:54.5
Kailangan daw natin
08:56.8
At least yung advocates
08:59.1
Si Robin Hood Padilla
09:00.4
Yung mga magaling na
09:01.3
Experts na ganyan
09:02.2
Na kailangan natin yan
09:03.8
Para maging asensado tayo
09:06.6
There are many problems
09:07.6
With that argument
09:08.8
There's very little
09:10.3
High quality scholarship
09:12.5
That kind of monocausal
09:13.5
Simplistic analysis
09:14.6
Because you have countries
09:16.2
As diverse as Vietnam
09:21.1
And at the same time
09:22.2
Presidential Parliament
09:24.4
Or countries like
09:25.6
Fully Parliamentary
09:27.7
Extremely developed
09:34.1
Many different political systems
09:37.3
Relatively similar
09:39.1
Economic outcomes
09:40.2
So that tells you
09:41.0
That the causality chain
09:42.8
The form of government
09:44.7
The causality change
09:46.7
Strategies employed
09:47.7
By these countries
09:49.1
And industrial policy
09:50.2
The other argument
09:53.0
Economic provisions
09:58.5
Ang ginawa muna natin
09:59.5
Is titignan natin
10:05.2
You don't need to
10:06.5
Change the constitution
10:07.8
I-amend yung constitution
10:09.5
Hindi mo na kailangan
10:10.0
Ng complete charter change
10:12.9
Provisions of constitution
10:13.9
To get the economic outcomes
10:17.1
Restrictions on foreign investments
10:18.9
The other argument
10:20.0
Of course against that
10:26.2
To make the Philippines
10:29.3
Foreign direct investments
10:30.2
But the problem is
10:31.4
Dahil may mga makulit yan
10:33.2
Charter change entirely
10:36.0
Na implement pa yan
10:37.6
Implementing rules
10:41.8
Economic provisions
10:46.2
So we have to give that time
10:48.4
Before going all the way
10:50.1
To charter change
10:50.9
Tignan muna natin
10:53.6
Pwede natin amienda
10:56.7
I-implement muna natin
10:58.5
Yung mga hindi pa na
10:59.9
Ng mga economic reforms
11:02.3
Foreign investments
11:03.3
Especially on investments
11:04.4
In certain sectors
11:08.5
So tignan muna natin yan
11:14.2
To foreign investments
11:16.5
Medyo problematic
11:18.7
Ay kailangan natin
11:19.3
Ang total charter change
11:21.5
Economically competitive tayo
11:22.6
Because you can just
11:23.4
Amend the constitution
11:24.3
And at the same time
11:25.5
Not even implemented
11:28.4
That were already
11:30.4
Under the previous
11:34.3
To be fully implemented
11:37.2
Sinisabi nung mga
11:39.3
Ng ganitong argumento
11:42.5
Okay ano lang yan
11:45.6
Pa-effect lang yan
11:47.9
Intention may be here
11:48.9
Is actually political
11:52.3
We had long discussions
11:53.1
About industrial policy
11:54.9
Yung mga discussions
11:57.0
On industrial policy
11:57.7
Why the Philippines
11:58.3
Needs a proactive
11:59.0
Industrial policy
11:59.7
Because that's really
12:01.1
To get the high quality
12:13.5
This is really about
12:23.3
Actually nagsimula yan
12:24.5
Panoan palang ni Ramos
12:25.8
Panoan palang ni Ramos
12:26.7
There was already push
12:27.5
For constitutional change
12:30.2
Or constitutional convention
12:31.9
Matagal na itong usapan na ito
12:35.1
Panoan palang ni Ramos
12:37.3
There was a push for that
12:39.2
Back then our democracy
12:40.2
Was still very young
12:41.1
So Corazon Aquino
12:42.1
Was very much against it
12:46.9
Dangling the option
12:48.7
Of constitutional change
12:55.9
Meaning allowing for
12:58.8
To overstate power
13:00.2
And then there was
13:01.7
The precedence of Arroyo
13:04.1
Almost a decade in power
13:05.9
Semi-controversial
13:15.6
If I can put it that way
13:18.9
The Hello Garcia situation
13:20.2
When this issue came up
13:22.5
Mas natakot ang tao
13:24.3
Because ang point nila is
13:26.8
Nag-push for constitutional change
13:28.2
This is gonna be a
13:29.0
Marcos Senior 2.0 situation
13:30.8
This is gonna be another martial law
13:32.3
And yung mga pinagsasabi
13:34.3
Ni Digong for 6 years
13:35.4
Na gusto ko ng ganito
13:39.0
Patayan yung mga ganito
13:41.5
Patayan yung mga drogista
13:42.6
Patayan yung mga ganita
13:44.1
Ayoko sa democracy
13:44.9
Minumuran yung mga
13:48.2
Minumuran yung mga leaders
13:51.7
Lalong naging suspicious
13:53.9
Sa issue of democracy
13:54.3
At issue ng constitutional change
13:58.8
Authoritative study
14:01.0
UP School of Economics
14:02.8
Actually if the Philippines
14:03.5
Push to federalism
14:04.9
This will be even more disastrous
14:07.4
Pag naging federal tayo
14:09.4
To political dynasties
14:14.7
Ibat-ibang probinsya
14:15.8
Around the country
14:16.6
Having said all of those things
14:20.3
There was a lot of reasons
14:21.9
To be skeptical about
14:23.8
Constitutional change
14:24.3
When Digon was in power
14:27.6
Was more than to realize
14:29.0
A Marcos in power
14:30.6
Would raise even more
14:34.0
Another martial law
14:35.7
Constitutional change
14:38.9
Now that Marcos Jr.
14:40.4
Is gaining more and more
14:41.8
Support from the so-called
14:42.8
Never Duterte camp
14:45.6
Feels comfortable
14:46.3
Because he's getting
14:47.0
International legitimacy
14:48.1
He's being embraced
14:50.5
The American president
14:51.5
Republican, Democrat
14:54.3
In a strong relationship
14:55.3
With the Philippines
14:56.7
You see some of the allies
14:58.2
Once they can bring back
15:00.1
Of constitutional change
15:01.2
Or charter change
15:02.6
There's also the aspect
15:04.0
Of President Marcos Jr.
15:05.2
Mobilizing once again
15:06.3
Yung kanyang partido
15:09.8
The federalista party
15:12.6
Ahead of the 2025 elections
15:17.0
To talk about this
15:18.2
In order to rally
15:23.9
Of the pro-Duterte camp
15:25.9
For charter change
15:26.7
And are realizing
15:29.3
Doon na tayo sa kabila
15:30.3
And then I won't be surprised
15:32.1
There are also people
15:32.7
Some people in the opposition
15:35.6
If charter change
15:38.9
Therefore wala ng
15:42.5
For Sarah and Duterte
15:48.1
What you wish for
15:49.9
There are many debates
15:52.1
Is there a clamor?
15:53.7
Any survey showed that
15:54.8
The Pulse Asia surveys
15:56.0
Among others we have
15:57.4
Very few Filipinos
15:58.2
Are interested in
15:59.0
Constitutional change
16:01.0
Is it really the answer
16:02.9
Again I explain to you
16:05.0
Completely different
16:05.7
Political systems
16:06.4
And forms of government
16:08.3
Manage to become progressive
16:09.4
And manufacturing powerhouses
16:12.4
The chain of causality
16:13.3
Is somewhere else
16:14.4
Even if let's say
16:15.7
Constitutional change
16:19.7
Have different modalities
16:23.6
Us ordinary people
16:26.0
Completely dominated
16:29.2
CONAS for instance
16:31.2
Will completely determine
16:32.3
How the constitutional change
16:34.7
And then some are saying
16:38.5
We can talk about
16:39.5
Amendments of the constitution
16:41.8
Some of the problems
16:43.2
Economic investments
16:44.8
But even that argument
16:45.7
Is kind of questionable
16:48.0
And some of the senators
16:49.0
Hindi pa natin na implement
16:53.6
Bring down buyers
16:54.3
To foreign investments
16:55.0
So how can you say
16:56.2
Status quo is not working
16:58.4
Implementing fully pa
17:00.6
Binigyan ng panon
17:01.3
Yung mga bagong batas
17:03.8
To make the Philippines
17:05.6
More economically competitive
17:08.7
This chacha debate
17:10.9
Is going to come back
17:12.3
Precisely because
17:15.8
The political environment
17:17.2
Has changed dramatically
17:18.2
And there are new
17:23.8
Surprised that some people
17:30.5
20 to 8 elections
17:31.9
You're still going to
17:35.0
I mean I can only think of
17:36.6
Tulfo having a very good chance
17:41.9
That opens the space
17:42.7
Also for Riz Antiveros
17:44.0
Or someone from the
17:45.1
Progressive opposition to run
17:49.5
If there's a betting
17:50.4
It's still going to be
17:51.2
Saire the frontrunner
17:55.1
Not no matter what
17:56.8
So some people would say
18:00.8
Constitutional change
18:01.7
Shift the parliamentary system
18:03.9
But parliamentary system
18:06.3
BBM will still be the president
18:08.4
And then the prime minister
18:12.7
And then from there
18:13.6
There could be an
18:14.6
Engineered process
18:15.6
To make sure that
18:16.6
Duterte will never come back again
18:18.1
And that someone close to Marcos
18:19.7
Someone acceptable
18:21.7
And even some liberals
18:23.1
Will be the prime minister
18:27.1
So that's going to be
18:29.8
Possibility people are looking at
18:31.0
The second reason
18:31.8
Some people may suddenly
18:32.7
Be more open to this idea
18:36.2
Mabilis ang growth natin
18:37.3
But it's not inclusive
18:38.3
At napag iwanan na tayo
18:41.0
Has to do something dramatic
18:44.6
Tweaking of the constitution
18:46.8
We might make the Philippines
18:48.7
Far more competitive
18:50.9
I'm open to ideas
18:54.9
Discussions on this issue
18:56.1
I think a parliamentary
18:57.0
Reform of government
18:58.0
Is not a solution
18:59.2
To all our problems
19:01.5
And propagandists
19:03.3
But it's not necessarily
19:05.2
Maybe parliament system
19:06.1
Might work for the Philippines
19:08.3
Be careful what you wish for
19:09.5
Because some people
19:10.7
I think they're so
19:11.6
They're so excited
19:13.4
Hindi na makabalik
19:14.9
That they're willing
19:16.2
An engineered process
19:17.7
Of political transition
19:20.2
Essentially the current
19:22.7
Essentially locks in
19:26.3
New grand coalition
19:29.9
So let's look at this debate
19:31.3
So I'm not gonna say
19:33.1
Because I'm waiting
19:34.4
There was just a speech
19:35.7
By Speaker of the House
19:37.5
But I think that tells you
19:38.8
That hindi na taa
19:40.8
And charter change
19:42.2
If the pro-Marcos camp
19:45.5
And if they're determined
19:47.5
That never na makabalik
19:50.6
Not only all the incentives
19:53.3
Political capital
19:54.2
To actually change
20:00.9
To a parliamentary system
20:03.4
Still as a president
20:04.1
Or something like that
20:04.9
But more symbolic
20:05.7
And then we'll have
20:06.9
A more parliamentary system
20:08.8
Not on popular vote
20:13.6
And at the same time
20:17.6
Thank you very much
20:20.8
Kailangan natin na kumain
20:21.9
Thank you very much
20:24.0
Hindi natuloy interview
20:25.6
But we're hoping to
20:27.0
Rearrange that again
20:29.5
Hopefully next year
20:34.4
Hopefully tomorrow
20:36.1
Marirange natin yan
20:39.8
Send forward your questions
20:41.4
Ano mga gusto natin
20:42.4
Gusto nyo pag-usapan
20:43.3
Aside from Bitcoin
20:44.3
What is it to be Chinoy
20:47.1
Fight against disinformation
20:48.3
Those things that I have in mind
20:50.0
In our upcoming discussion
20:51.9
Among other people
20:54.2
Thank you very much guys
20:55.7
And talk to you soon
