00:23.1
Naiinsomnia daw siya.
00:24.5
Dahil tumawag daw si Tatay Digong sa kanya.
00:27.5
Si Method is the Madness Digong.
00:31.3
Ito na yung warrant of arrest.
00:32.9
It's coming all of that.
00:35.0
Again, going back to the previous episode.
00:37.0
Is this their way of creating noise para i-preempt nila yung potential political disaster?
00:44.2
Or maybe there's still something going on.
00:46.1
Because I would have expected Sonny Trillianes to come out strong
00:49.1
if indeed there's this almost confirmation na the warrant of arrest is a matter of time.
00:53.5
And then in relation to that, itong accusation niya na the security services are already moving.
00:59.2
They're essentially.
01:00.0
They're actually making sure na the devout security establishment
01:02.3
will be quote-unquote nationalized, right?
01:05.0
Na it will not act in behalf of Digong.
01:06.8
It will act in behalf of the state of the Philippines
01:09.1
should the Philippine government cooperate with ICC down the road.
01:13.3
Una yung hindi makatulog si ex-human rights lawyer.
01:16.9
Pag-usapan natin yan. Medyo maabang usapan.
01:21.2
Kung masyado ka kasing maraming kinain ang mga prinsipyo mo,
01:24.9
hindi lang indigestion ang tatama sa'yo.
01:27.2
Hindi lang loose bowel movement.
01:30.0
Hindi lang maiihi ka sa salwal mo.
01:33.8
Talagang tatamaan ka rin ng insomnia.
01:36.5
Kaya tanggalin na muna natin yung hindi pagtutulog ni Harry Roque.
01:44.7
Tingin ko mas malalim yung dahilan doon.
01:47.8
Mas malalim yung dahilan.
01:50.0
Ikalawa, talaga namang tingin ko hindi tatanggalin ng gobyerno yung task force da BAU.
01:56.7
Hindi niya tatanggalin.
01:58.2
Pero okay lang naman.
02:00.1
Nabaguhin yung mga tao.
02:01.9
Dahil talaga naman ginagawa yun.
02:03.8
Hindi naman yun abnormal.
02:06.2
Hindi naman yun abnormal na gawain.
02:09.2
Tingin ko yung timeline na sinasabi ni Senator Sanitarianes
02:13.2
na middle of the year,
02:16.1
mangyayari yung implementation ng internal.
02:20.5
Yung timeline nitong ICC.
02:28.2
At yung sinasabi nila na,
02:31.0
Anytime, ay kukuni na.
02:32.6
Eh, baka hindi yun.
02:34.1
Hindi yun yung mangyayari.
02:36.5
But that's my question.
02:37.6
Why would they do that?
02:39.5
How does that serve their political purpose?
02:42.7
To create this panic mode?
02:44.5
Hindi ba naging mukhang mahina sila?
02:46.1
Naging mukhang kabado sila?
02:47.4
Naging mukhang vulnerable sila?
02:48.8
Or, what I'm saying,
02:50.8
they're creating drama to get sympathy
02:52.8
and to threaten chaos, mga ganun.
02:56.8
Una, to prepare your own base.
02:59.7
Lalo na yung base ni Kubuloy.
03:01.7
Na, oh, handa ba kayong kumilos?
03:03.8
Kung sakaling darating yan?
03:05.0
Magmamobilize ba kayo ng isang milyon?
03:08.3
To surround the president?
03:10.7
Sa gulag mong ginawa kay ERAP dati?
03:13.0
Eventually, nangyari yung EDSA 3.
03:16.5
Pero, katulad ng sinabi mo,
03:18.7
pwede rin niyang mag-create ng confusion
03:22.0
at saka fear sa iyong sariling base.
03:24.7
Kaya, two-edged yan eh.
03:26.3
Two-edged sword yan eh.
03:27.4
Na, pwedeng, pwedeng,
03:29.7
paghahanda para sa iyong base,
03:32.7
pwede rin pagtakot sa sarili mong base.
03:37.9
Kaya, dapat linawin nila,
03:39.7
ano ba talaga kanilang purpose dito?
03:42.9
Hindi ko naman sila isa-second guess.
03:45.2
Pero, I'm almost sure,
03:47.5
sa sarili nila hindi rin malinaw.
03:50.3
O hindi pa malinaw.
03:51.9
So, the method is the madness pa rin.
03:55.5
Halimbawa, sinubukan nilang dalhin yung Dabao Rally
03:59.5
sa Manila, dito sa Liwasang Bonifacio,
04:01.8
ang dumalo, isang platitong man eh.
04:04.6
So, medyo napahiya sila, di ba?
04:06.9
So, susubukan naman nila ulit.
04:09.0
Ito naman, anti-chacha rally.
04:11.1
Hindi na pro-Sara rally,
04:13.9
anti-chacha rally na.
04:15.4
Gagawin na naman nila within the month.
04:17.4
So, tignan natin kung magagawa ba talaga nila
04:20.2
yung plano nila na hindi lang Dabao
04:23.0
sila kaya mag-mobilize,
04:24.9
kung hindi mismo rito.
04:26.5
Pero, mismo kasi sa Dabao,
04:27.7
ang target nila, 50,000 eh.
04:29.5
Hindi naman sila lumampas ng 8,000 eh.
04:32.2
Doon sa rally nila.
04:33.6
Eh, base na nila yan.
04:34.9
Diba naka-8,000 ba sila?
04:36.3
Akala ko 200 lang nandun.
04:38.2
Kaya may mga empty chairs pa, di ba?
04:40.4
Noong nagpapataklakan sila.
04:42.1
tapos na yung show,
04:43.8
yung muuwi na yung mga tao.
04:45.5
Usually kasi yan,
04:46.4
labas-masok yan eh,
04:48.0
May darating, may aalis,
04:49.3
may darating, aalis.
04:50.5
Sabi daw ng mga polis,
04:53.1
Sabi ng mga tao ko ro'n,
04:56.0
Binigyan ko na nga ng kaunting slack.
04:57.9
Binigyan ko na ng kaunting alawan.
04:59.9
gawin na natin 7 to 8.
05:02.1
Pero yung mga nandun,
05:04.9
ng mga kasama ko,
05:09.0
Wala pang limang tao.
05:12.1
empty yung chair.
05:13.0
Yung pumapalang tao sa kanya.
05:14.7
Yung inahamon-ahamon niya na si Digong
05:17.0
at tumatawag siya sa AFP
05:19.2
Mayroon yung focus naman sa kanya lang,
05:20.7
hindi naman sa crowd eh.
05:21.8
Mayroon yung ano,
05:23.5
parang pinapakita yung crowd.
05:24.9
Tapos may mga empty chair pa yata
05:26.4
or something like that.
05:27.9
Basta alam mo yung mga barangay events na patapos na,
05:30.8
umuwi na yung mga tao,
05:32.3
nagbabayad sa likod.
05:33.5
Puta na sa bayad.
05:34.7
Tsaka ubus na yung mga spaghetti,
05:38.5
tsaka yung fried chicken.
05:43.1
nag-shadow na na.
05:43.7
Kumuha na ng maraming food packs.
05:46.0
Iuwi na sa kanilang pamilya.
05:48.4
ang point ko dito,
05:49.2
is this a political harakiri?
05:53.5
accelerating the demise of his political capital.
05:58.5
itong sabog na mixed messaging,
06:01.2
hindi panic mode.
06:02.5
if there were supposed to be rallying effect,
06:04.3
matagal na sinasabi ni Harry R.
06:05.9
na kakawawayin si Digong.
06:09.6
Si Digong nagwala na.
06:10.8
Pero sabi mo nga,
06:12.4
ilang libo lang dumating at max,
06:15.0
Pinagbigyan mo pa ngayon number nila.
06:17.4
Bati yung SD card,
06:19.5
Baka wala pong 8,000 yan, di ba?
06:21.6
Yung problema sa mga,
06:22.7
problema sa mga taong ito.
06:24.7
They tend to believe their own legend, di ba?
06:27.7
They tend to believe their own propaganda.
06:32.7
doon sa Devil's Advocate?
06:34.3
Hubris is my favorite sin.
06:37.3
Eh, pulong-pulong sila ng hubris eh.
06:40.9
Pulong-pulong sila ng hubris eh.
06:44.9
ganito sila kagaling,
06:46.0
ganito sila kalakas,
06:47.2
until ma-realize nila,
06:49.6
Mukhang nandun sila sa transition na yan eh.
06:54.8
hindi na pala tayo ganun kalakas.
06:56.4
Hindi na pala tayo ganun ka-powerful, no?
07:00.9
kaunting chismis lang
07:03.2
Davao Task Force,
07:06.5
Todo panik na kagad, no?
07:08.1
Kala ko ba ang tatapang nila?
07:10.1
Kala ko ba sobra silang believe sa sarili?
07:13.6
Marit-test lang na konti eh.
07:14.7
Nagsabi kasi wala nang confidential.
07:17.2
Wala akong sinasabi.
07:18.3
Wala akong sinasabi.
07:19.6
Biglang nagpanik na eh, no?
07:21.3
Wag naman masyado magpanik.
07:25.2
Pwede pa naman silang tanggapin sa China eh.
07:28.2
Pero, yun nga eh,
07:29.2
tatanggapin ba sila ng China?
07:31.0
I don't think China likes losers.
07:34.8
China wouldn't be China
07:36.3
kung tumataya lang sila forever sa mga losers.
07:38.8
I'm just telling.
07:42.4
going back to the Harikiri question,
07:45.9
hindi dahil galing ako sa Japan
07:47.7
or kagaling lang natin sa Japan
07:50.1
or gusto ko manood ng Shogun,
07:54.8
it was quite telling
07:55.6
na Secretary Anyo,
07:57.1
National Security Advisor,
07:58.5
who was his DLG Secretary,
08:00.0
who was the FB Chief of Staff
08:01.7
comes out so strong
08:04.0
to crush any threat
08:05.7
to territorial integrity.
08:07.7
this is in response to the
08:08.8
Mindanao Secession
08:09.8
and National Tatay.
08:12.7
Secretary Galvez,
08:13.7
Presidential Peace Advisor
08:17.7
also coming out very strong
08:19.1
and speaking out against
08:20.6
any incitement to rebellion
08:23.7
I think this is the key term,
08:24.7
seditious insinuations,
08:29.6
Defense Secretary ni Digong
08:31.0
na hindi siya pinili,
08:33.5
Defense Secretary,
08:34.4
also came out very strong.
08:36.0
it looks like all the big boys,
08:37.4
the defense guys,
08:40.0
generals that serve under Digong even
08:41.5
or close with Digong
08:43.4
yung mga tahimig dati na,
08:45.5
they're all coming out
08:46.5
very strongly against him
08:49.4
it's like he's accelerating
08:52.3
the disintegration
08:53.3
ng kanyang political capital
08:55.8
or whatever is left of that,
08:57.4
Kaya nga sabi ko,
08:57.8
parang may pagkaharikin niya.
09:00.3
I'm completely contradicting
09:01.3
what I was saying
09:02.2
in the previous episode,
09:03.2
In the previous episode,
09:04.5
there could be a,
09:05.8
sabi nga ni Fitzgerald,
09:07.4
the sign of wisdom
09:08.5
is having two contradictory ideas
09:11.2
and still keeping safe,
09:13.7
the Fitzgerald 10.
09:15.1
At the same time,
09:16.3
and this is where maybe
09:17.4
I'm more agree with you is,
09:21.8
violent lashes of,
09:25.8
is it a King Lear situation
09:27.7
we're seeing right now?
09:28.4
May pagka Shakespearean tragedy
09:31.6
Shakespearean na ba?
09:34.7
mix yung reaction ko
09:35.9
dito sa mga statements
09:44.4
sinusupalpal nila si Digong,
09:46.9
at pinapakita nila
09:48.2
na hindi ito mangyayari,
09:50.9
Yun yung sinasabi
09:51.8
Pero in another sense,
09:53.9
parang siniseryoso nila
10:01.3
from the very start,
10:03.6
ako hindi ko siniseryoso
10:05.8
mismo nga sa Dabao eh,
10:07.4
even by increment,
10:08.7
sumihina na siya,
10:12.5
sa nakarang episode,
10:13.7
hindi na makukuha
10:14.7
ang Southern Mindanao,
10:20.4
hindi niya makukuha
10:22.5
ang Cotabato City,
10:24.9
hindi niya makukuha
10:29.5
kung anong kanyang kausap.
10:32.1
yung kanyang, ah,
10:43.5
nagbati-bati na sila uli,
10:46.7
dahil wala nyo namang hatak
10:48.2
si Pantalion Alvarez
10:49.2
ngayon sa buong Mindanao.
10:52.9
Magsasabay kami sa Biyernes
11:04.1
kaya in one sense,
11:05.0
mix yung reaction ko
11:05.9
dahil part of me,
11:08.0
ay gustong supal pa rin
11:12.2
Dahil wala naman siyang capacity,
11:15.5
dahil sinasagot siya
11:20.5
baka magmukha pa siyang
11:22.9
yun naman yung tingin ko
11:23.9
isa sa kanyang purpose.
11:25.5
Na magmukha siyang
11:28.2
Magmukha siyang threat.
11:34.3
natingin ko hindi na.
11:35.8
Natingin ko hindi na.
11:37.3
nagkikreate siya ng ganong
11:40.3
wag nang pagbigyan.
11:45.9
I agree with you.
11:46.7
I think may sinabi siya,
11:48.7
if I were the one,
11:49.4
hindi ko papatulad.
11:50.5
Medyo politically
11:51.4
sophisticated yun.
11:53.7
I would say he's the
11:54.6
Machiavelli of the Philippines.
11:58.5
the ultimate survival.
12:00.4
100 years old na yun,
12:03.3
malapit na yung birthday
12:07.8
Anong masasalang panaban
12:08.7
sa political chess?
12:11.4
in fairness to him,
12:12.8
he's quite something.
12:14.1
I've been with 90 years old
12:23.4
medyo ibang level
12:25.3
Pride of the Philippines.
12:39.7
generals or security guys
12:45.3
yung sinabi ni Bronner noon.
12:47.1
Bakit ba yung audience nila?
12:49.4
So I'm explaining to you
12:51.1
where they're coming from.
12:52.3
Hindi ko sinabi na
12:52.9
nakausap ko sila.
12:54.0
Hindi ko sinabi na
12:54.6
I can understand that.
12:55.4
I can understand that.
12:58.6
Ako yung audience ko
13:01.6
masyado mong binibigay
13:07.1
secession na ito.
13:12.6
I think it's that.
13:13.7
I think it's really
13:15.1
Na they have to really
13:17.6
traction whatsoever
13:20.3
kasi the moment na
13:24.0
The politikos are already
13:25.3
with the administration.
13:26.4
The military immediately
13:27.4
put a wall there.
13:30.3
I don't know about China,
13:31.2
good luck na lang dyan.
13:32.7
they don't like losing horses.
13:34.7
Let's just put it that way.
13:36.3
that's what I'm saying.
13:37.4
ang sinasabi mong Ronald,
13:38.4
hindi na siya do 30,
13:43.2
May do one na siya.
13:45.6
Hindi na siya do 30.
13:48.0
tsaka pinapalibutan niya
13:49.8
ng mga kapwa niya losers.
13:54.3
former executive secretary,
13:58.8
former human rights
14:03.2
Ang sinabi sa akin
14:04.0
ni Robin Hood Padilla,
14:06.4
kulang sa pansin,
14:12.7
Yung naging relevant ka.
14:14.8
Baka yung kasama ko
14:16.5
ganoon ang sabihin sa kanila.
14:17.7
ba't kasama mo itong
14:21.0
Eh, yun ang kasama
14:22.4
sa mga presscon niya eh.
14:25.8
Perfect transition yan.
14:27.0
So, next episode,
14:27.9
bago natin pag-usapan
14:34.7
yung paborito mo,
14:35.6
yung ginawa kang relevant.
14:38.4
nung pinatulog ka ni Robin Hood,
14:40.2
naging relevant ka
14:59.0
Medyo malapit-lapit.
15:00.4
Medyo malapit-lapit,
15:04.7
Pag-usapan natin next,
15:05.7
ang paborito natin,
15:07.0
senador ng bayan.
15:09.1
dalawa silang paborito
15:11.0
Paborito ko si Robin,
15:13.6
pag-usapan natin yan.
15:14.7
Thank you very much.
15:15.7
Fantastic discussion.
15:18.2
Secretary of the United States,
15:20.9
Pulang sa pansin.
15:24.1
former Secretary of the United States.
15:27.6
nasobraan ng pansin,
15:28.8
kaya crush lang tayo.
