00:17.9
So before I talk about
00:19.4
yung reaction ni Digong,
00:21.5
kasi may sinabi si Digong na parang
00:23.0
parang essentially, bahala ka na,
00:24.4
magpa-resto ka na lang,
00:25.3
wala naman ano dyan eh.
00:26.2
Which is very much like what BBM was saying.
00:28.6
Wait lang, unitim ba sila ulit?
00:30.7
Bago tayo pumunta dyan,
00:31.6
kasi tatanong ko si Ronald dyan.
00:33.2
Ikaw, Mark Gambo,
00:35.4
anong update dyan sa rally ngayon?
00:37.5
Live from, joining us from
00:40.6
Quezon City ba ito?
00:41.4
Saan ba ito? Manila?
00:42.2
Hindi, niwasang Bonifacio sa Manila.
00:44.3
Baba, mga bayani.
00:46.2
Mga bayani, mga bayani.
00:48.6
And even doon sa statuan ni Bonifacio,
00:51.2
may nakasabit na tarpulin.
00:54.1
Justice for Pastor Kibuloy.
00:56.7
So pakita ko yung short video
00:58.6
lang nung itsura ng mga tao doon.
01:01.5
Dito nakalagay yung
01:02.4
Risa Contiveros Resign.
01:04.8
Justice for Pastor Kibuloy.
01:10.7
Ang mensahe namin,
01:15.6
kapag meron pa kayong
01:17.4
pagkakataong magbago.
01:20.3
Kailangang sambay ng Pilipino,
01:26.7
Liyakan yung mga tao.
01:28.6
Naka-purple sila, parang
01:30.1
color ko, meta ba color nila?
01:32.1
Anong color nila?
01:35.0
So purple ang color this month.
01:37.5
Diyos ko naman, di ma lang sila original.
01:39.8
Parang na-pirate lang nila
01:41.8
yung mga moto na opposition.
01:43.7
Justice for Pastor Kibuloy.
01:44.8
Protect the Constitution.
01:47.4
Protect freedom of speech.
01:49.4
Yun yung mga nakakalat.
01:50.5
Ang gusto ko lang sabihin din,
01:52.7
kanina tuwang-tuwa ako doon sa
01:54.1
livestream ko dito.
01:56.5
Ang ganda yung color scheme nila,
01:58.6
yung pagkaayos nila doon sa buong rally,
02:01.8
yung t-shirt na suot-suot
02:04.5
white and red yung kanilang tema.
02:08.3
Tapos yung pinili nilang venue,
02:10.4
yung tapat ng post office,
02:14.5
So pag nilagyan mo ng mga tao doon,
02:16.7
mga membro, mukhang six-seven.
02:18.6
Mukhang marami, which is visually
02:22.6
Maganda. Tapos meron silang live band.
02:24.8
Tapos yung mga cheers, praktisado.
02:28.6
Kumpira mo doon sa Davao,
02:30.2
tsaka si Borralli,
02:31.7
ang ganda ng execution dito sa...
02:33.7
Grabe naman yung Davao rally,
02:35.3
masyado upar yan.
02:37.7
May mga bakante pang chairs sa gitna.
02:43.3
tapos yung mga placards,
02:45.1
yung mga tarpaulin,
02:48.4
maski lahat ng mga tao,
02:53.2
Naisip ko, kasi siguro
02:55.1
yung mga prayer rally,
02:57.1
sanay sila sa ganyan.
02:58.6
Sanay silang mag-set ng mga prayer rally.
03:00.7
Siguro kukunan sa telebisyon.
03:03.1
So, mas organized.
03:04.7
So, ang mga pumunta dito, tingin ko,
03:07.0
mga membro ng KOJC,
03:08.7
tsaka mga taga-SMNI.
03:10.5
So, ang host si Admar.
03:12.0
Kilala mo si Admar?
03:13.2
Yung parang host doon sa SMNI.
03:16.0
So, siya yung host din dito.
03:17.6
Ang mga nagsalita,
03:22.8
si Tatay Harry Roque,
03:24.7
and mga IP leaders
03:28.6
tsaka si Ka-Erik,
03:30.6
si Ka-Erik na yung
03:32.3
Celis, yung napakulong sa kongreso.
03:36.6
mga host din ng SMNI,
03:39.5
sila yung nagsalita.
03:40.5
Pero, wala akong nakitang mga
03:42.5
politiko masyado,
03:44.7
wala akong nakitang kahit sinong Duterte.
03:47.5
So, yun ang medyo interesting.
03:49.1
Ang kutob mo si Jay,
03:50.3
sino bang consultant dito?
03:51.9
Di ba si Jason sa yung consultant?
03:56.8
I mean, sa tingin mo,
03:59.4
The whole choreography,
04:00.8
Production level eh.
04:02.1
I'm guessing that's from the church eh.
04:04.6
Siguro, sabi ko nga,
04:05.7
kahit sinong church ang gumawa,
04:06.9
maayos ang prayer rally.
04:08.3
Maayos yung parang rally.
04:09.6
Kasi sanay sila eh.
04:12.1
di ba, mag-stage ng mga
04:15.5
tapos kukunan nila ng television.
04:17.3
So, that's why siguro
04:18.3
kaya ang ayos eh.
04:22.2
visually appealing,
04:28.6
So, in terms of execution,
04:30.5
in terms of yung staging
04:33.8
mataas yung gradong
04:36.4
kumpara doon sa mga
04:38.8
nung mga Duterte.
04:44.5
Tama yung sabi ni Mark, no?
04:46.6
Yung mga religious groups,
04:51.2
Performance level yan eh,
04:53.2
Yung mga rituals,
04:55.4
yung mga mag-e-evoke
05:01.5
easily kaya nila ng 20,000 eh
05:06.1
hindi bago sa kanila
05:07.7
yung malalaking rally
05:08.6
dahil parang nagsisimba niyan eh.
05:11.9
Totoong prayer rally,
05:14.8
ng ibang prayer rally
05:15.8
na ang nakikita mo.
05:17.6
yung Cebu rally ni Digong,
05:19.1
hinahanap ko yung prayer
05:22.4
Ang daming sexy dancers.
05:28.6
at least hindi to
05:29.1
nagbigay ng target.
05:34.9
ang target 30,000.
05:38.9
pero medyo disente.
05:44.5
Pati yung venue na pinili nila
05:47.1
Tama yung pinili nilang venue.
05:50.8
May backdrop ni Bonifacio.
05:53.9
Merong backdrop nung
05:57.4
Puro-puno sa gilid.
05:59.3
ang ganda visually.
06:00.5
Unlike dun sa Cebu
06:02.1
gagawin mo dun sa SRP.
06:06.0
Laki-laki nung SRP.
06:07.4
Nung SRP grounds,
06:08.4
ba't dun nila ginawa?
06:09.2
Hindi nila ginawa sa Cologne
06:10.4
o sa kung anong part ng city
06:13.5
mas maganda tignan
06:14.4
kahit konti yung tao.
06:17.5
pwede mong bilagin
06:18.3
yung mga usosero.
06:20.7
Yung mga kusyoso.
06:22.3
Pwede mong sabihin,
06:22.9
kasama namin yan.
06:28.6
lahat kasi naka-uniform eh.
06:29.9
Naka-puti sila lahat.
06:32.4
Protect Pastor Kibuloy.
06:36.7
pinag-isipan talaga ito.
06:38.3
they thought about it.
06:39.5
Kasi tomorrow kasi yung ano eh.
06:47.0
nagsampala ng kaso.
06:49.9
I didn't know that.
06:51.1
nagsampala sila ng kuhan
06:55.6
yung mga old na reklamo?
06:59.0
Meron na siyang warrant
06:59.9
sa Senate at saka sa House.
07:02.2
meron siyang kaso
07:04.5
meron ka pang FBI.
07:06.3
existential issue na ito
07:10.0
Dapat tayang pato na siya.
07:11.4
Itaya na niya lahat.
07:19.7
Ang sabi kasi niya,
07:20.4
pabagsakin niya si BBM eh.
07:32.9
magandang tignan yan
07:34.9
pero kung mananatiling
07:38.7
kay Presidente yan.
07:40.7
Idagdag ko lang din
07:49.8
pinagdasal pa nila.
07:51.2
Sinama pa sa prayer.
07:52.5
Ipagdasal po natin
07:56.9
Sinama nila sa prayer.
08:05.4
ni Patay Hari Roque
08:09.4
Mga hirit na naman
08:11.0
So may banat pa rin.
08:13.2
hindi nila inulit
08:28.0
Medyo out of this world to.
08:32.7
they're making the most
08:35.4
whatever they can put together.
08:37.6
Which is quite something.
08:38.8
At least that shows
08:40.0
and they're prepared.
08:41.2
In fairness naman
08:41.7
yung mga studios ng SMN9
08:42.9
medyo maayos-ayos.
08:43.9
Yung debate na organized nila
08:45.0
medyo bongalicious.
08:47.1
in fairness naman
08:47.6
I'm not totally surprised na
08:52.6
unlike yung ginawa nila
08:54.0
Hindi ko napanood yung Cebu.
08:55.7
Of course I got the quotes
09:01.1
which we'll discuss later on.
09:02.4
But before going there
09:09.6
or even probably 500,000
09:10.8
may not be enough
09:11.4
to bring down a government
09:12.4
with 67-80% approval
09:14.1
and the military behind it
09:20.0
are not behind it
09:20.9
especially Duterte.
09:22.3
we saw Rodrigo Duterte
09:25.5
being very dismissive about it.
09:29.0
minor crimes lang naman daw
09:30.9
literally minor lang daw
09:33.5
kaya nga binasa ko
09:35.1
lahat ng listahan.
09:37.6
Sabi magpano ka na lang
09:39.1
magparesto ka na lang
09:40.8
dapat ikakatakot.
09:42.7
yung sinasabi nila dati
09:43.9
kung wala kang ikatakot
09:46.2
which is quite ironic
09:48.9
who's panicking over ICC
09:55.3
essentially saying
09:58.9
kung si Big R.K.D.Gong
10:01.5
tongue in cheek eh.
10:07.1
kailangan ba siya
10:07.9
kailan ba siya tongue in cheek
10:09.2
yung huli niyang presscon
10:10.8
ang sinasabi niya
10:11.6
wala naman ako sinabi
10:14.0
si President Bongbong
10:16.9
nagte-take siya ng gamot
10:19.7
pwedeng antibiotics yan
10:28.6
yun ang problema rito
10:31.2
na pahuli ka na lang
10:34.3
baka tilimbri rin niya yan
10:38.2
paano inaamin ng malidigong
10:40.5
tuwing may bibili
10:42.3
bumibili siya ng dalawa
10:47.9
ay bibigay sa akin.
10:50.3
ganun sila ka-close
10:53.3
tingin ko lang ha
10:54.2
baka tilimbrihan din niya
10:56.7
sasabihin ko to ha
10:59.2
baka ma-offend ha
11:02.3
would that would be
11:03.7
Kibuloy would say
11:07.5
Go out guns blazing for me.
11:09.2
Ay hindi maganda na
11:12.3
yan ang sabihin ko
11:13.8
hindi matuwa si Kibuloy
11:15.9
would have wanted him
11:17.5
even dun sa issue
11:22.6
bigyan ko na lang
11:29.2
may logic din yan
11:30.8
Duterte tends to do that
11:34.6
method to the madness
11:43.8
His political capital
11:45.2
His political capital
11:47.1
I almost said pulvoron
11:48.8
You know what I'm saying?
11:53.8
doon sa isang possibility
11:56.1
kinakain ni Digong
12:02.1
backdoor negotiations
12:04.9
wag mong papasokin
12:06.7
hindi na kita babanatan
12:10.4
unless kasama yan
12:14.0
si Vice President Sara
12:17.5
binawi yung kanyang
12:18.5
statement on EDSA
12:21.0
Binawi yung kanyang
12:21.9
proposal na isama
12:22.9
sa DepEd Curriculum
12:26.7
So something must be
12:28.0
happening behind the scenes
12:29.6
na hindi pa natin
12:33.7
So that's a distinct possibility
12:36.8
sasabihin niya yan
12:40.9
baka may nangyayari
12:43.1
baka may nag-backdoor
12:46.3
oh isacrifice mo na yan
12:47.7
huwag mong gamitin
12:50.0
political capital dyan
12:53.3
choose your battles
12:54.4
or something like that
12:56.6
again this is where
12:59.1
slight disagreement with you
13:00.3
and I think this is where
13:01.6
more right than you
13:05.2
will hit the point
13:06.0
but I always said
13:08.6
conflict avoidant
13:09.5
he'll always go for
13:12.6
backdoor negotiations
13:14.1
to de-escalate it
13:15.1
and Digong getting
13:17.3
mukhang hindi naman tayo
13:21.7
magpakabayit nga ako
13:28.2
that's the snapshot
13:31.6
this is the state
13:33.1
dahil pagkausap ko
13:36.0
ibang players dyan
13:37.8
eh kung hindi namin
13:41.5
after the midterms
13:43.8
yun ang problema nila eh
13:45.4
after the midterms
13:50.3
yun yung magiging
13:53.4
in the next few months
13:55.4
in the next few months
13:55.8
parang you're saying
13:58.2
just clinging his gun
14:00.0
and joking around
14:07.8
hindi pa naman sila
14:16.2
one of your guests
14:19.5
tinanong ko siya eh
14:20.6
sinabihan ba kayo
14:32.3
pero hindi naman sila
14:35.5
na kung hindi ito
14:40.1
after the midterms
14:42.9
elephant in the room
14:45.7
after the midterms
14:51.7
kanilang kandidato
15:00.9
that's a good transition
15:01.8
for the next episode
15:03.0
because I want to talk
15:03.7
about the midterms
15:05.2
declaration by BBM
15:13.1
a way of avoiding
15:14.0
a return of Dutertis
15:17.0
meron din silang plan B
15:18.5
na kung hindi nila
15:20.4
maayos-ayos to ngayon
15:21.9
even if 2025 comes
15:23.6
there may still have
15:25.3
some minor insurance
15:26.6
or insurance policy
15:27.8
or something like that
15:28.3
but before I go to
15:30.0
anong take mo dito
15:32.2
Digong-Kiboloy dynamic
15:35.2
clearly Dutertis signaling
15:37.0
I'm not gonna spend
15:37.9
political capital in this
15:39.3
itong sasabihin ko
15:43.8
I wanna keep my powder keg dry
15:45.4
medyo pulvoron din
15:49.1
anong basa mo dito
15:49.9
before we transition
15:50.8
to the next episode
15:56.1
yung mga usapan natin
15:57.4
mga late last year eh
15:58.9
na hindi pa rin ako
16:00.6
ganitong umikot na eh
16:02.1
kasi maski sa social media
16:03.5
yung mga dating takot
16:05.4
na batikusin yung
16:08.7
ngayon are speaking out na
16:11.0
kumbaga mas matapang na
16:12.2
nakita nila na ano
16:13.3
the tide is shifting
16:19.0
mukhang dumidistansya na
16:20.0
yung mga Duterte talaga eh
16:21.9
Kiboloy has to figure this out
16:29.0
ang hindi din masyadong
16:31.2
pagating sa topic na to
16:32.8
is yung posibling
16:38.6
mga foreign countries
16:40.2
dito sa awayan na to eh
16:41.4
between sa kampo ni Kiboloy
16:42.9
yung kampo ni Duterte
16:46.0
yun pa yung isang
16:47.2
yun pa yung isang
16:48.7
factor dyan in the future
16:50.4
may isang tanong lang ako Mark
16:52.5
interested kasi ako
16:54.3
paano nag-a-adjust
17:09.1
tumblings si Digong eh
17:10.2
di ba confusing yan
17:11.5
para doon sa kanyang mga
17:12.6
Ronald can we keep that
17:13.6
for the next episode
17:15.1
that's a good question
17:17.2
I think it's perfect
17:18.1
it's a perfect segue
17:19.1
for the next episode
17:20.0
pag-usapan natin yan
17:21.9
ko na lang magsimula
17:23.9
thank you very much
17:24.9
yan talagang maganda
17:27.5
ng transitions eh
17:28.5
thank you so much
