00:25.8
So mukhang may kinalaman ito dun sa questioning of Marcos' foreign policy
00:30.4
at saka yung ating assertiveness sa West Philippine Sea.
00:33.6
But obviously, alam natin, this probably is just the beginning.
00:37.8
Kasi alam naman ni Sir Ronald, tune into the whole Pulveronic series, serials, telenovela.
00:45.8
Pero first of all, pag-usapan natin, the irony of Marcos being a victim of disinformation.
00:52.5
Ikaw mo na, Ronald, and then si Mark.
00:55.8
una, lumabas siyang deepfake
00:57.5
two days bago i-launch yung
00:59.8
koalisyon ng mamamayan kontra-gera.
01:05.8
kung malisyoso ka,
01:07.9
titignan mo siya as a build-up.
01:11.1
Wala tayong sinisabi.
01:13.9
Warflake itong presidente.
01:15.2
Kaya sabi ko, kung malisyoso ka,
01:16.7
makikita mo siya as a build-up.
01:18.6
Na dinadala tayo sa gera.
01:20.3
Sabi nga nung ibang mga
01:22.7
talking heads in China,
01:24.9
dadalhin tayo sa isang nuclear war.
01:32.0
mga talking heads nila,
01:36.8
Tatamaan tayo ng nuclear war.
01:38.3
So, talagang fear-mongering.
01:41.3
Dahil hindi nila makuha yung mamamayan.
01:47.9
Hindi nila makuha yung mamamayan.
01:49.7
Ito nga huli, 3%.
01:51.0
Within the margin of error,
01:52.5
yung supporta sa China.
01:53.5
So, kailangan nilang...
01:55.3
baka yung susunod,
01:56.2
hydrogen bomb na.
01:59.7
ito pang ibang weapons.
02:01.7
Intergalactic bomb.
02:07.5
bahagi ito nung full court press
02:09.6
nung mga kalaban ni BBM.
02:12.4
tatlo yung main track nila.
02:17.7
Hindi nang akwal eh.
02:18.9
Sleepwalking into war eh.
02:20.5
Parang pushing us to war.
02:28.1
Na ang sabi ni Maharlika,
02:30.2
ay ilalabas nila next month.
02:34.2
Dahil ngayon kasi,
02:35.0
nagiging parang urban legend na lang eh.
02:37.2
Ulit-ulit sinasabi,
02:38.2
ilalabas, ilalabas.
02:44.0
So, sabi ni Maharlika...
02:46.3
at least itong buli ka.
02:47.5
Ito sa engagement,
02:48.6
hindi yung 60 views.
02:49.7
Hindi yung 60 views nung kabala.
02:54.8
May build-up pa rin.
02:56.8
mukhang gagamitin nila yung election fraud.
03:00.4
Gagamitin nila yan.
03:01.9
ang gumagamit niya,
03:02.9
hindi naman prodigong
03:06.3
Pero gagamitin nila
03:07.6
as a third parallel track
03:10.5
para doon sa kanilang
03:16.9
I think will come to a head
03:21.9
yung paglabas ng international warrant
03:26.6
So, they're looking for a trigger.
03:28.2
Yung isang trigger
03:31.2
Yung isang trigger
03:32.1
ay bakit kayo papayag
03:34.1
mga pulis at saka mga sundalo
03:36.1
na yung commander in chief
03:41.2
At meron kaming ebidensya.
03:43.5
Dahil kasama kami sa nandaya.
03:47.9
that's a good observation.
03:56.2
tapon na lang lahat
03:57.1
baka something will hit
03:59.1
do you think there's a coherence
04:00.3
to this three-arrow strategy?
04:05.1
mas dominant yung una mong sinabi.
04:07.4
Ibaton natin lahat,
04:08.8
baka may dumikit.
04:11.2
meron din mga nagpaplano
04:13.7
na gawin niyang tatlong
04:15.5
parallel tracks na yan.
04:18.4
it won't work eh.
04:33.2
yung connection mo ah.
04:34.3
Nagpupulvoron eh.
04:36.4
Yung election fraud
04:39.9
kung ano yung dagdag
04:55.9
Mukhang nag-interfere na. Burahin mo na yung TikTok sa phone, sir.
05:00.3
No. Ano nangyari?
05:02.8
Mukhang nag-interfere na yung TikTok.
05:05.5
Sir Ronald, yung mga pinapanood mo nila dyan, isa na mo ka kanina.
05:09.8
Malapit mo na marihugnaw yung plano nila eh. Kaya nakikialam na yung app.
05:16.7
60 views eh. 60 views eh. Lamag lang sila sa atin ang mga tatlo eh.
05:26.0
Ikaw Mark, anong basa mo dito? Ano ba yung parang tapon-tapon baka may madiktik or baka naman baka may mag-champan nila.
05:32.9
Very interesting din yung sinasabi ni Sir Ronald ah.
05:35.4
At pag siya nagsasabi na, niniwala na ako eh. Kasi yung mga natin last year, tumama eh.
05:42.4
So mukhang ito, mukhang yan din eh. Yung kanilang inabangan para sa ICC.
05:46.5
Yung kanilang pambala. Pero parang mahihina nga lahat eh.
05:49.8
Parang it's not enough eh.
05:51.9
It's not enough para, kasi anything that the BBM administration na did wrong,
05:58.1
o kung meron man silang krimen o kasalanan, eh mas worse yung mga nangyari nung sa panahon ni Duterte.
06:05.1
Wala silang may bato na hindi nila ginawa o hindi na akusa sa kanila eh.
06:11.0
So akusahan mo na ganito eh. Nung panahon mo mas malala.
06:14.4
Nung akusahan mo na ganyan. So yung sa deepfake lang kinakabahan talaga ako.
06:19.5
there's no turning back na eh.
06:22.6
Napapanood ko itong mga kunyari NBA players, si Lebron James,
06:26.9
kung ano-ano sinasabi, sinisiraan yung mga teammates niya.
06:30.0
Yun pala, AI. Yun pala deepfake.
06:34.1
Very realistic na eh.
06:35.8
Baka it's time na magpag-isipan na kung meron mga batas against sa paggamit ng deepfake
06:42.6
para manira ng ibang tao eh.
06:44.6
Meron sila. Actually may batas.
06:47.0
Especially if you're targeting a national leader.
06:49.5
National security implication.
06:50.9
So yun yung ni-report ng PNP ngayon.
06:52.7
At pwede nila i-flag down yan sa mga companies.
06:56.9
Meron ng existing na batas ngayon?
07:00.2
Have you pretending to be a national leader?
07:04.9
If you're undermining national security by spreading disinformation about a national leader
07:09.0
that could have dire consequences.
07:11.1
Meron lang tayo dyan.
07:11.7
Pero kasi hindi lang government leader eh.
07:16.0
Kahit artista, kahit celebrity, kahit athlete.
07:19.5
Diba? Pwede nang i-deepfake eh.
07:20.9
So baka dapat mag-aralan na din eh.
07:23.0
Yung kay Taylor Swift, diba?
07:24.7
Naging issue yan.
07:25.5
Laging malaking issue yan.
07:26.9
Diba, Mark, napansin mo meron na ngayon yung may flagging na sa YouTube
07:30.6
and different platforms kung AI generated ang data mo.
07:34.8
Meron na silang ganun eh.
07:36.7
Pero sa mga developed countries kasi gray area yan eh.
07:41.5
Dahil napakahilaga sa kanila ng freedom of expression.
07:44.3
Kaya kailangan patunayan na merong nangyaring damage.
07:49.5
Parang usapin ng libel sa US.
07:52.6
You have to prove presence of malice.
07:54.8
At yung malice ay nasa loob ng utak eh.
07:57.5
Kaya halos walang nananalong libel cases sa US eh.
08:00.9
So sa mga developed countries,
08:02.7
sa kanila kasi kailangan mong patunayan na may damage na nagawa.
08:06.8
Halimbawa yung deepfake.
08:08.5
Deepfake itself is not illegal or is not bad.
08:13.3
Even for human rights groups.
08:15.3
Paano? Kinakabahan sila.
08:16.3
Baka pag iba naman yung gobyerno,
08:18.8
halimbawa authoritarianism,
08:20.7
gagamitin naman yan.
08:21.7
Iwe-iwe mo lang yan.
08:23.0
Laban sa mga nakikriticize.
08:26.3
So hindi yan black and white ah.
08:28.6
Yung usapin ng deepfake.
08:31.6
Mismo yung meta ay very soft yan.
08:34.9
Very soft yan sa usapin ng deepfake.
08:38.2
Medyo tricky ang itong issue na ito.
08:40.3
But I want to go back still to the irony
08:42.1
that Marcos could be a victim of disinformation.
08:47.0
Anong masabi mo dyan, Mark?
08:48.7
And then, Sir Roland,
08:50.6
Marcos is now complaining about disinformation.
08:53.5
Of course, Mark, you're a nice guy.
08:55.3
Ayon sa'yo, wala naman dito.
08:57.3
Ang sinasabi nung kabila,
09:00.3
hindi pa nalang narinig yung video na yun.
09:02.9
Narinig mo ba yung video na yun?
09:04.6
Nakaabot na ba sa'yo?
09:05.5
Na-flag down daw.
09:06.3
Na-flag down daw.
09:07.8
Pero sino nakakita pa lang?
09:11.2
Ako hindi ko nakita.
09:12.4
Hindi ko nakabutan.
09:13.4
Kahit ako, hindi masyadong boses ni BBM.
09:16.8
Hindi ko nakakita.
09:16.8
Hindi ko nakakita.
09:16.9
Hindi ko nakakita.
09:16.9
Hindi ko nakakita.
09:16.9
Hindi ko nakakita.
09:16.9
Hindi ko parang boses.
09:19.7
Pero ibig sabihin,
09:22.2
alam mo kagaya deepfake.
09:24.1
Hindi siya deepfake, fake lang.
09:28.7
So how much is this preparing lang
09:31.3
for the future possibility of deepfakes?
09:35.2
ano naman na nila?
09:37.3
Trial run ito eh.
09:38.4
Tingin ko marami pa trial run.
09:42.2
Mga trial run ito eh.
09:44.1
Parang ano yun eh?
09:44.9
Parang scamming, di ba?
09:46.0
First, yung mga sob...
09:47.9
Then i-elevate nila.
09:49.8
Pero kung ito ay magagamit
09:51.3
para dun sa pagpamabagsak kay BBM,
09:57.2
nakita mo naman yung mga rallies eh.
09:59.8
Pinakamalaki na yung Kekibuloy eh.
10:01.4
Sa liwasang Bonifacio,
10:03.4
tatlong libo yun eh.
10:04.7
Yung mga nag-rally.
10:06.3
may kinakausap sila ng ibang simbahan
10:09.5
para sumama sa kanila.
10:10.8
Parang ed sa Tres Primork.
10:12.7
Pero napasunog eh.
10:14.1
Nasunog na yung simbahan na yun eh.
10:15.9
Kaya hindi sasama.
10:16.8
Sino yung imobilize nila?
10:20.8
Kailangan kasi maraming tao sa kalsada
10:22.8
to trigger a section of the military
10:28.1
I doubt kung mangyayari yan
10:31.8
within the next two months.
10:33.5
Yung mga keyboard warriors,
10:34.7
hindi ba sila pwede?
10:36.4
Busy ba yung mga keyboard warriors?
10:38.7
Kung naubusan yung budget.
10:43.0
hindi lalabas sa kalsada yun.
10:46.8
Ang init pa naman.
10:49.8
Kasi likha naman yung init-init.
10:53.2
papunta akong Green Hills,
10:54.3
naliligo ako sa pawis,
10:55.5
sa loob ng kotse.
10:57.4
hindi kaya ng aircon.
11:00.1
Tapos nalabas ka pa.
11:01.3
Mas grabe pa sa Bangkok,
11:03.3
yung aircon ng airport mismo,
11:08.6
maraming namatay.
11:09.8
Sandeng yung Bustos Ragi.
11:12.4
more than 40 yung namatay.
11:14.8
Sobrang mas init sa Pilipinas.
11:22.0
Pwede ka magluto ng hotdog
11:23.5
at saka ng tocino nun eh.
11:25.4
Baka yung Mayor Alpires yan.
11:28.7
Unaban sa pagka-mayor,
11:31.8
Si Trillianet sa may-may kapana.
11:37.4
Yung pala yung mainit.
11:40.1
is it me or is it the city?
11:42.0
Kaya itong BigPay,
11:44.6
i-scale up pa nila.
11:45.6
Tire run itong mga toy.
11:48.0
Pero pag napanood mo,
11:49.0
pag napanood nyo,
11:52.7
Hindi nga deepfake,
11:55.3
hindi siya masyadong deep.
11:57.7
Ang tawagan nila,
12:02.3
Iba pala yung cheap fake eh.
12:05.4
Ginagamit pala talaga
12:06.3
yung term na cheap na fake.
12:09.7
fake kasi mas sophisticated eh.
12:13.9
Okay, I think that perfectly sets it down
12:15.3
for our next episode.
12:16.1
pag-usapan na natin ito.
12:17.8
Itong Sarah resigned,
12:20.1
Guess who came to Sarah's rescue?
12:23.6
Yan na naman tayo.
12:26.1
mas tama ako kay Ronald.
12:28.2
naalala mo last year,
12:34.3
alam mo nyo naman si BBM eh.
12:36.9
season 2 na tayo eh.
12:39.1
matapusin yung episode 5.
12:41.9
pag-usapan natin sa next episode,
12:47.5
Pag-usapan natin yan.
