02:22.1
It further accelerated the adoption of consumers of digital channels.
02:28.9
We are now in the middle of a pandemic.
02:30.0
We are now being able to provide the services needed by our citizens, by our consumers.
03:00.0
We are now in the middle of a pandemic.
03:30.0
We are now in the middle of a pandemic.
03:44.9
Mobility will be key to recovery because we have relaxed some of our quarantine methods
03:56.7
and we have allowed more transportation.
04:00.0
to come out. That's going to prove
04:02.2
to be better for demand.
04:04.2
If we do follow the health
04:06.1
protocols, the ability of people to move
04:08.1
around will likely contribute better
04:30.0
Thank you for watching!
05:00.0
Thank you for watching!
05:30.0
We've changed the way we live.
05:42.5
We've told stories about crisis,
05:45.0
but also about opportunities
05:46.6
that came with it.
06:00.0
This is the Philippines.
06:16.5
The views and opinions expressed
06:18.4
in the following program do not necessarily
06:20.5
reflect the policies and position
06:36.6
It's Thursday, May 9 here
06:38.5
in Manila. I'm Karen Davila
06:40.6
giving you the Head Start for the day.
06:42.8
Our guest for Hot Copy today,
06:45.1
we have with us back
06:46.5
on Head Start, Senator Rafi
06:48.8
Tulfo. We will be
06:50.5
discussing the multi-level
06:52.4
marketing scheme involving
06:56.5
an issue sounding the Philippine charity
06:58.6
sweepstakes as well.
07:00.0
But first, the headlines.
07:03.3
Today's big stories.
07:04.8
The United States hits
07:06.2
pause on a weapons
07:08.1
shipment to Israel amid
07:10.3
concerns over its
07:12.0
operation in Rafah.
07:14.8
Manila's defense chief
07:16.2
accuses Beijing of
07:18.0
violating the anti-wiretapping
07:20.2
law for recording talks
07:22.2
on an alleged deal
07:24.0
on Ayungin Shoal.
07:26.5
And the Philippine Justice Department
07:30.0
briefer for the president
07:32.0
should the International Criminal
07:33.9
Court issue arrest warrants
07:42.1
morning, the Philippine Health Department
07:46.0
conflict of interest
07:47.9
in incentives given to
07:50.2
doctors by Belkens
07:52.1
Pharma. The company is
07:53.9
under fire over an alleged
07:56.1
multi-level marketing scheme
07:58.0
where doctors get
07:60.0
money and luxury items
08:01.8
in exchange for prescribing
08:07.4
That's an issue of
08:08.3
conflict of interest.
08:09.2
Yun yung sa amin. Yun yung sa FDAPRC
08:12.5
DOH. Kung excessive siya,
08:14.7
may ethical violation siya.
08:16.5
But on-going pa kayo?
08:17.8
Pero we have to prove. Kailangan ma-prove natin.
08:20.2
Kasi yung mga doktor na yan, kaya naman bumili
08:21.9
ng mga coaching mamahalin
08:24.0
sa lakas ng practice nila eh.
08:25.5
So binigay ba talaga?
08:27.4
Or claimed lang na ano? Yan ang mahirap eh.
08:30.0
Madali mag-accus, mahirap
08:35.2
Health Secretary Ted
08:36.4
Herbosa also says
08:38.1
possible violations committed
08:40.1
by the Securities and
08:42.0
Exchange Commission should
08:43.9
also be investigated.
08:47.8
Ang opinion ko dito, based on the facts na
08:49.9
lumalabas, mukhang
08:51.9
ang violations are with the
08:54.0
Securities and Exchange Commission.
08:55.9
But I don't know that abogado magsasabi
08:58.3
niyan. Titignan mo yung original
08:60.0
Articles of Incorporation nila.
09:02.2
Kung allowed sa kanila yung gano'n, yung may
09:03.9
Jedi, Padawan, gano'n. Kung wala
09:06.2
yun sa kanilang original Articles of
09:07.8
Incorporation, may violations.
09:10.0
Alright, joining us
09:15.8
on Hot Copy this morning, we have with us
09:17.9
Philippine Senator Rafi
09:19.9
Tulfo. Senator Tulfo, good
09:26.4
Senator, you're on mute, sir.
09:30.0
Can you hear me? Sorry.
09:36.6
Alright, okay. You're now on air.
09:39.1
Senator Rafi Tulfo, good morning
09:40.6
to you, sir. Good morning to you,
09:42.7
Karen, and good morning to all the viewers
09:44.3
watching us right now.
09:46.9
Alright, so there's been
09:48.5
such an interest in
09:52.7
Pharmaceutical Investigation.
09:55.3
I want to ask you
09:56.4
first, what have they
09:58.5
done that you believe that they've done?
09:59.2
What have they done that you believe that they've done?
09:59.3
What have they done that you believe that they've done?
09:59.4
What have they done that you believe that they've done?
09:59.6
What have they done that you believe
10:00.4
is against the law?
10:03.5
First things first,
10:04.6
before anything else, I would like to put it on record,
10:08.4
clarify na kami sa Senado
10:10.4
ay hindi po mga anti-doctors.
10:12.7
Huwag na pinapalabas ng Belkens
10:14.3
na galit na kami sa mga doktor. On the contrary,
10:16.4
no, we're pro-doctors.
10:18.3
That's why gusto namin
10:19.8
yung medical community ay
10:21.8
mapataas yung kanilang reputation
10:24.1
and kanilang integrity, just like what other
10:26.3
doctors want it to be.
10:28.3
Ito yung mga doktor na lumabas,
10:29.6
kapit sa amin para magsumbong,
10:31.9
para sabihin na may nangyaring
10:33.7
katiwalian among their ranks
10:35.6
and that's why they want this investigated.
10:38.9
I want to put it on record.
10:41.3
Now, your question again?
10:43.1
What was your question again, Karen? I'm sorry.
10:45.0
The question is, what do you believe
10:49.4
done that is against
10:51.2
the law? How did they
10:55.8
Well, sa ngayon, we don't have a law
10:57.5
against Belkens, against
10:59.6
the MLM, kung saan involved
11:01.4
yung mga doktor, binibenta,
11:03.1
minamarket yung kanilang mga gamot.
11:06.1
But later on, magkakaroon na tayo
11:07.8
because meron na batas
11:10.0
sa US, tulad nitong Star-Claw
11:11.7
at sa kanyang Sunshine Act, na doon natin
11:14.0
ipapattern pag tayo gumawa ng batas
11:16.1
patungkol dyan. Right now,
11:18.3
meron talagang mga
11:19.9
indications wherein a lot of
11:21.9
doctors are involved dito sa Belkens.
11:24.4
Kaya lang, may hirap na patunayan, tulad
11:25.9
ng sinabi ni Secretary
11:29.6
may hirap patunayan, especially
11:31.4
pag itong mga doktor, hindi magsasalita
11:33.9
kasi wala naman siguro ng doktor magsasabi
11:35.7
tataas ang kamay na kasama
11:37.8
ako din sa MLM. They will not do that.
11:40.0
Pero meron kami mga proof
11:41.8
that will show na talagang
11:43.8
maraming doktor ang involved sa MLM.
11:46.2
In fact, meron kami mga cheque
11:50.3
na itong mga doktor na ito
11:51.8
ay nababayaran o binigyan
11:53.7
ng certain amount
11:55.3
ng Belkens. Okay.
11:57.2
So, unang pag-usapan po natin.
11:59.6
Kumabasa sa Senado
12:00.7
that 50 of the shareholders
12:03.2
of Belkens Pharmaceuticals
12:05.5
are doctors, most
12:07.4
of them cardiologists, partnered
12:09.6
with the Philippine Heart Center.
12:12.2
Meron bang batas laban
12:13.6
dito or is this completely
12:15.5
just at this point unethical?
12:19.8
tinanong ko na mismo yan sa PRC.
12:22.0
Sabi ng PRC, it's unethical.
12:24.6
Pero kung batas ang pag-usapan,
12:26.0
we don't have a law against it.
12:29.6
ito yung garing eh.
12:30.6
Kung ikaw ay practicing doctor,
12:33.4
eh dapat hindi ka ma-involve
12:35.4
sa any pharmaceutical company.
12:36.8
You should not have a stake
12:37.7
sa mga pharmaceutical companies.
12:40.1
Pero kung ikaw ay regular doctor
12:42.1
or ikaw ay isang doktor
12:43.2
na hindi ka nagpa-practice,
12:44.4
I don't see any problem
12:46.0
pharmaceutical companies
12:46.9
if you are an investor
12:50.3
Kasi ganito yung garing eh.
12:52.5
Ano bang gusto mo?
12:53.2
Ikaw ay practicing doctor
12:54.7
na nag-issue ng kaseta
12:55.5
o ikaw ay manufacturer
12:58.6
Kasi kung ikaw ay
13:00.2
so manufacturer ka ng gamot
13:02.6
nag-reseta ka ng gamot,
13:03.9
so there's the tendency
13:06.5
na binibenta ng yung company.
13:08.7
That's unethical.
13:11.6
is a local company
13:13.1
just for a little bit
13:17.4
it's one of these companies
13:18.5
that actually flourished
13:20.2
after the Generics Act
13:22.1
was passed into law.
13:26.9
So itong kasing Belkins
13:29.4
na mas reasonable daw
13:32.0
na dapat huwag silang punahin
13:33.4
dahil nakatulong daw sila.
13:34.9
I don't have any problem
13:36.7
kung mas mura yung kanilang gamot
13:38.2
kumpara sa competition.
13:41.1
Pero ang pinag-usapan dito kasi
13:42.6
dapat nag-observe sila
13:44.1
sa isang ethical standard
13:46.4
nagsasabi pati DOH
13:48.9
yung mga investors nila
13:49.7
dapat tinideclare nila yan
13:55.2
So dapat malalaman
13:57.3
na kung sino-sino
13:58.0
yung mga members nila
13:58.9
na mayroon na siya.
13:59.4
At yung mga investors nila
14:01.7
itong mga pasyente nila
14:02.7
can make informed decisions
14:04.6
whether yung nireseta
14:06.8
ay tatangkilikin o hindi.
14:09.5
or dapat bumili sila
14:17.2
under the Generics Act,
14:19.2
a doctor is only supposed
14:22.1
the generic name first
14:27.9
a preferred drug,
14:30.3
they put it after
14:37.2
that were discussed
14:37.9
in the Senate hearing,
14:42.4
or they would only write
14:49.7
most of the doctors,
14:51.4
ang ginagawa nila,
14:52.9
sinusunod yung sinasabi
14:56.1
yung prescription
14:56.8
and then yung brand
15:01.3
ng medicine na yun.
15:02.8
Pero there are doctors
15:03.6
na they don't do that.
15:05.2
Ang nilalagyan nila
15:12.4
this was actually shown
15:15.7
So, I'd like our viewers
15:17.6
This is the marketing
15:28.7
So, it's not just
15:30.4
about the presentation
15:39.8
they take an oath
15:42.7
themselves to actually
15:50.4
there is a reward.
15:52.1
So, this is the question.
16:04.8
you get one point.
16:10.8
you'll be qualified
16:11.5
for an Asian trip
16:15.2
So, may incentive,
16:17.6
Tapos, may rebates
16:22.6
Kasi yan ang tanong eh.
16:37.4
Signatory tayo sa
16:38.5
Mexican principles
16:44.1
doctor of any country
16:50.5
from the pharmaceutical
16:58.6
kung ano yung pwede nilang
16:59.8
impose na penalties
17:07.2
ang Secretary of the U.H.
17:14.4
the Mexican principle
17:15.9
pertaining to that.
17:18.2
ito yung sistema,
17:24.2
Pero merong penalty
17:26.2
pharmaceutical companies.
17:28.6
pero sa mga doktor,
17:36.4
wala silang administrative
17:37.1
hold against any doctors
17:38.9
kasi sila sa food
17:40.7
Alam naman natin,
17:43.0
ito ang tuwang FDA dito
17:45.5
they can go after
17:46.1
promotional companies
17:47.0
and pag they go after
17:48.9
promotional companies,
17:50.0
wala nang nangyari.
17:59.5
technically speaking,
18:03.5
and since there was
18:09.7
started this campaign,
18:12.0
shouldn't the FDA
18:13.1
have investigated
18:21.7
something about this.
18:24.3
I agree with you,
18:25.3
As a matter of fact,
18:26.0
sa susunod na hearing,
18:30.9
yung kanilang mga tao
18:31.9
and as resource persons
18:33.8
exactly yung mga sinasabi mo.
18:37.5
what is the problem
18:38.4
with these doctors
18:45.1
yung multi-level marketing.
18:46.8
What is the issue
18:50.5
ng multi-level marketing
18:55.1
para doon sa health
18:55.9
and well-being na pasyente.
18:59.6
Paano sila kikita
19:00.4
para mamit nila yung kota
19:01.9
pag namit nila yung kota,
19:03.0
marami sila matatanggap
19:03.9
na perks and return.
19:05.6
nandiyan yung possibility
19:06.6
na sila ay mag-over-prescribe
19:08.6
na siya yung misdiagnosed.
19:10.7
Kahit na hindi kailangan
19:11.9
yung gamot na yun,
19:13.0
pwede nilang resetahin
19:14.8
yung certain quotas.
19:16.4
nagkataproblema tayo
19:20.6
you're right there,
19:22.1
because there's already
19:25.2
in the United States
19:26.5
with the over-prescription
19:28.2
of the painkiller
19:32.5
I can't remember it right now,
19:34.3
but it sounds like that.
19:35.3
And the Sackler family,
19:38.4
there was a court case
19:41.4
so many Americans
19:43.7
who were at some point
19:44.8
addicted to the painkiller
19:48.6
so much incentives
19:51.3
that they would prescribe.
19:53.2
So, this is something
19:54.1
I'd like to show.
20:00.7
it's part of their
20:01.5
marketing campaign
20:05.5
believe and you will
20:09.1
They got a watch.
20:10.6
the names are covered.
20:12.0
But there are checks here.
20:21.2
ang bayad na ito,
20:22.6
these incentives?
20:26.7
na binigay sa akin
20:32.7
May mga pangalan din
20:34.4
na tinakpan muna namin
20:38.5
Pero nung sinabi ko yan
20:39.9
during the hearing,
20:40.8
ang sabi ng Belkins,
20:43.0
Doon sa mga doktor
20:44.6
na bumili ng gamot
20:50.3
kaya nabigyan daw
20:51.6
Yun yung explanation.
20:58.8
Pati daw yung relo.
21:08.3
na bumili ng gamot
21:10.1
Bakit bibili ng gamot
21:11.0
sa kanila mga doktor?
21:12.6
itong mga doktor daw,
21:13.4
meron daw mga pharmacies.
21:14.9
So kung meron mga pharmacies
21:15.7
sa mga doktor na ito,
21:17.6
kasi ang etika yun.
21:23.4
the business model.
21:28.1
which was discussed
21:29.0
in the Senate too.
21:36.5
So this is actually
21:42.0
four ways to earn
21:47.0
8% of gross sales,
21:51.8
special dispensing
21:53.5
and this is where
21:59.3
at may prescriber.
22:02.5
So the last target
22:03.7
is the prescriber.
22:09.4
So if you're a Jedi,
22:11.0
you have a target
22:11.7
if you hit platinum,
22:22.1
for pharma companies
22:25.4
Should pharma companies
22:27.7
because what's ironic,
22:30.4
can't even advertise.
22:32.3
I was so surprised,
22:35.5
outright advertise
22:37.5
in the Philippines.
22:40.9
But it's so strict here.
22:45.8
They can't advertise
22:55.6
this particular practice,
22:58.5
what does the law say
22:59.9
about this practice?
23:03.6
yung pharmaceutical companies
23:05.3
prescription drugs
23:06.5
unlike in the US.
23:08.8
nagtatakaw ka rin.
23:12.1
ng mga medical representatives
23:13.3
na pupunta sa mga pinto
23:15.7
para i-market yung
23:16.6
medisina na na-represent nila.
23:19.2
kung akong tatanungin,
23:20.1
in my humble opinion,
23:21.2
that should be allowed.
23:23.4
pag nakita ng mga doktor,
23:25.4
yung gabat na yan,
23:25.9
pupunta sa clinic,
23:27.1
meron ako na panood,
23:28.6
na advertised na.
23:29.9
But this medicine,
23:31.2
is it good for me?
23:32.4
we'll do a research.
23:33.6
bagay nga sa iyan.
23:35.0
Parang mas maganda pa yun
23:36.3
na outright advertising.
23:37.9
Doon na lang gastos
23:46.3
kung bawal ba o hindi,
23:51.4
sa Mexico Principles
23:52.6
na pinagbabawal yan,
23:53.6
sinasabing unethical yan.
23:57.9
nagsasabing unethical yan.
24:01.2
wala tayong batas
24:03.5
kapag ikaw yung nag-violate,
24:06.3
Kapag ikaw yung doktor,
24:07.2
that's the possibility.
24:08.4
Kung pupunta sa PRC,
24:11.9
pwede kang matanggal
24:13.1
pero alam naman natin
24:14.2
kung gaano kabagal
24:15.7
I called the attention
24:16.8
during the last hearing,
24:18.7
inaabot ng 10 years.
24:34.7
were 6.5 billion pesos.
24:37.9
6.5 billion pesos.
24:40.9
In the Senate investigation,
24:47.4
the proper declaration?
24:51.3
6.5 billion pesos,
24:53.6
kaya yun yung revenue nila.
24:57.7
doon sa 6.5 billion,
24:59.5
ang na-misdiagnose?
25:03.1
na mga medicines?
25:04.8
yung mga pasyente
25:05.3
kahit na hindi nila
25:08.1
na binibigyan sa kanila
25:08.9
or hindi makakapag-fit
25:12.6
Binibigyan nila yun
25:13.3
kasi sinabi ng doktor eh.
25:16.3
ito yung masama dito
25:18.4
may mga hinahabol
25:21.0
there's that tendency
25:27.7
from every point of view.
25:30.5
this was also a document.
25:32.4
I think this was also
25:33.6
presented in the Senate.
25:35.9
they list doctors
25:37.2
in different areas
25:38.3
in the Philippines.
25:46.7
and they write down
25:53.3
Imagine the doctor
25:54.3
has a productivity
25:57.8
doctor number one,
26:06.8
what does this mean?
26:13.8
worth 23 million?
26:15.8
It could be both,
26:18.7
tulad yung sinabi
26:21.0
nung the last year,
26:22.9
bakit may mga cheque
26:24.0
coming from Belkins
26:26.2
doon sa mga doktor.
26:28.6
because the doctors
26:29.5
are buying medicines
26:32.3
pinapasok sa kanilang mga butika.
26:34.7
Doctors are owning butika
26:35.9
pero I don't believe that.
26:37.6
Pumibili sa kanilang mga doktor
26:40.6
because they're members
26:41.9
tinatawag na MLM.
26:46.6
magkaroon na tayo
26:48.7
to the government.
26:49.8
we're having hearings
26:52.0
magkaroon pa ng hearings
26:52.7
siguro in the next
26:55.8
yung issue na ito.
26:58.2
I'd like to repeat,
26:59.7
itong mga taga-Belkins,
27:02.5
naroon na sa atin ngayon,
27:04.6
anti-doktor sa Senado.
27:07.3
kami po ay pro-doktors.
27:08.5
Gusto lang po namin
27:09.8
yung medical community
27:13.2
ng ilang mga doktors
27:29.3
conflict of interest,
27:30.8
what do you believe
27:34.1
What would you put
27:36.6
you have practicing
27:38.1
who are shareholders
27:47.1
to their children.
27:48.3
tinakpan lang nila.
27:50.5
Yun ang nangyari.
27:52.3
at the end of the day,
27:55.8
with that particular
27:57.9
How would you handle
27:58.7
that under the law?
28:01.2
Yung sinasabi mo,
28:02.2
ito transfer sa mga kamag-anak,
28:05.0
sa mga susunod na hearing,
28:07.7
lahat ng stakeholders
28:08.7
bago kami mag-praf
28:10.5
kung ano yung pwedeng
28:11.2
gawin at ano yung
28:11.9
hindi pwedeng gawin.
28:21.9
ng mga pharmaceutical
28:23.9
ng mga pharmacies,
28:27.3
paano ka tayo gagawa
28:30.8
Starclaw na bagit ko
28:32.7
at saka yung Sunshine Act
28:36.1
ng halos kapareho
28:38.4
pagsasamay-samay natin.
28:39.9
Philippine version.
28:44.2
Doon sa Starclaw,
28:46.3
ang sinamang doktor,
28:47.9
healthcare professionals
28:50.9
clinical laboratories
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or radiology clinic
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na hindi siya pwede
28:58.2
Wow, that's quite strict?
28:59.9
That's quite strict?
29:02.3
hindi siya pwedeng
29:04.0
especially kung yung
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pinag-referan niya
29:07.5
kanilang kamag-ana.
29:08.8
Kapag nag-violate
29:10.7
meron kang katapat
29:14.4
ito nga lang doon sa
29:20.5
ng Medicare and Medicaid.
29:21.8
Pero kung ikaw'y private pay,
29:27.5
salinatong versyon na
29:28.4
regardless kung ikaw ay
29:30.9
member of pasyente
29:33.1
kapag yung doktor
29:33.8
nag-violate doon sa
29:34.7
batas na gagawin natin,
29:36.6
lang siya mga parusaan.
29:38.1
meron pa tinatawag na
29:40.7
na kung saan nililimit
29:45.2
but we don't have that here.
29:47.7
We don't have that
29:48.3
in the Philippines.
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pharmaceutical companies.
29:59.2
Kasi after my expo
30:00.1
sa previous hearings,
30:01.7
inamin ni Secretary
30:03.0
na tama yung pinagsasabi ko,
30:05.5
yung administrative order
30:06.4
na inuutusan yung FDA
30:11.4
their relationship
30:12.6
with the pharmaceutical
30:13.8
companies and vice versa,
30:15.4
dapat yan i-publicize
30:18.0
pinapublish ng FDA.
30:20.0
had all this information,
30:23.0
anong ginagawa ng FDA?
30:26.1
lahat na information
30:33.0
malamak ng publiko
30:33.9
and then they can make
30:34.7
informed decisions
30:36.9
tatangkilikin nila
30:39.6
o yung doktor na yan
30:40.6
And then ito bang
30:41.2
gusto kong suggest,
30:43.8
kasi sa Sunshine Act,
30:46.5
dinideclare dapat nila
30:47.8
sa kanilang pasyente
30:51.6
sa pharmaceutical companies.
30:55.0
pagpasok sa clinic,
30:56.8
nandoon nakalagay
30:59.8
nakalagay yung mga diploma nila,
31:00.9
nakalagay kung sa
31:01.6
sana katabi noon,
31:03.6
ilalagay din mga doktor
31:07.7
ng mga pharmaceutical companies
31:09.0
na ginagawa mag-anak
31:11.5
laboratory clinics,
31:16.1
the pharma company
31:17.1
in terms of their
31:18.1
marketing strategy?
31:21.3
put it under the law
31:27.4
they can sell medicine?
31:29.9
in the Philippines,
31:31.9
that advertising,
31:33.6
which makes sense,
31:34.9
outright advertising,
31:43.9
That would be better
31:46.0
doing an MLM situation
31:50.9
corrupting doctors.
31:53.0
Yun yung nangyayari, eh.
31:54.9
Corrupting doctors.
31:56.9
Tama ka dyan, Karen,
31:58.5
kung mapapansin mo,
31:59.4
bawal talaga rito,
32:02.7
ng advertisement,
32:03.8
pinapayagan mag-advertise
32:04.8
sa mga pharma companies,
32:05.7
sa mga prescription drugs,
32:07.4
so hindi na kailangan
32:08.0
pumunta yung mga med rep
32:08.9
sa mga opisina ng mga doktor.
32:10.6
Hindi na kailangan
32:11.8
magsuhul sa mga doktor
32:14.4
na represent niya.
32:15.4
I'm not saying na lahat
32:16.6
meron ilang doktor,
32:18.4
itong mga members
32:20.0
There's that possibility
32:20.7
na i-prescribe nila
32:22.0
kung ano yung sinabi
32:26.4
kung ako'ng tatanungin,
32:27.3
dapat payagan na.
32:28.6
We will look into it
32:32.1
lahat ng stakeholders,
32:32.9
kausapin namin na
32:33.7
payagan na itong mga
32:34.8
pharmaceutical companies
32:37.1
ng kanilang mga produkto
32:43.0
and then pasyente
32:43.5
magsasabi sa doktor,
32:44.5
and then itong mga doktor
32:45.4
tatawag sa pharmaceutical
32:48.1
o humingi ng mga materials
32:49.7
pertaining to that medicine
32:50.7
that is being advertised.
32:57.6
had a press conference
33:00.1
they've also accused
33:04.4
and the whistleblowers
33:09.0
blown out of proportion.
33:14.2
there's one article
33:17.9
was once with Pfizer,
33:19.8
didn't he actually also
33:26.6
it's gotten to this
33:27.8
kind of accusation.
33:31.0
and cases could be filed.
33:34.0
out of proportion?
33:40.0
na lumitaw lahat ito.
33:41.5
matagal na ito nangyari.
33:42.8
Pero recently lang,
33:43.7
may mga lumapit na na
33:46.8
upang magsumbong.
33:48.7
this is the reason
33:49.2
bakit kami nakakaroon
33:52.6
sabihin sa Belkins
33:59.3
ayon sa DOH na rin
34:05.0
partial capital companies
34:06.7
Ang sabi ng Belkins,
34:07.8
they are doing that daw
34:08.6
pero partial pa lang
34:09.7
ang ginagawa nilang
34:11.9
Dapat from the very start,
34:13.6
dinideclare na agad nila
34:15.2
yung mga investors.
34:18.7
nagtaas ang kilay dyan.
34:19.7
Even si Secretary
34:22.6
nagtaas ang kilay dyan.
34:24.7
from the very beginning,
34:25.9
dinideclare mo lang
34:26.6
kung sino-sino yung mga
34:27.3
practicing doctor
34:28.0
na nagreseta ng mga gamot
34:29.3
na kasama sa inyong kumpanya
34:31.3
bilang shareholders.
34:33.8
For the next hearing,
34:35.2
ilan pang hearing
34:35.9
ang inaasahan nyo dito,
34:38.7
Binanggit mo rin kanina pala
34:46.6
hindi gumagawa ng MLM.
34:49.4
hindi gumagawa ng MLM.
34:50.3
No, but he wasn't a member.
34:51.7
Ah, yeah, you're right.
34:52.5
You're right, yeah.
34:53.3
Hindi gumagawa ng MLM
34:55.8
Kung yun ang allegation
35:00.6
dati si Dr. Leachon,
35:03.1
just think about it.
35:04.7
hindi pasok sa MLM
35:09.5
tumataas yung kanilang revenue
35:12.7
Binanggit mo 5.7 billion
35:19.2
na kung saan sila
35:20.8
ng isang kumpanya
35:23.4
So, how do we strike
35:24.6
the balance here?
35:26.5
we want to support
35:33.9
is Belkin's manufactured
35:35.0
in the Philippines?
35:37.5
I'm not aware of that.
35:38.8
if it's manufactured
35:39.6
in India or China
35:42.5
we want to support
35:47.7
Generics Act Law.
35:49.5
How do you balance
35:53.4
Because the likes
35:56.9
so they don't need
35:58.0
any local support,
36:00.7
how do we support
36:02.2
local manufacturers
36:10.5
I think it's from India.
36:12.0
Now, how can we support
36:12.9
these local manufacturers?
36:15.3
meron tayong papayagan
36:17.6
ang mga pharmaceutical
36:19.4
especially these generic
36:20.2
medicines na mag-advertise,
36:22.6
then that will be a good
36:24.4
para sa mga medisina
36:27.1
sa mga malalaking
36:27.6
pharmaceutical companies
36:28.6
and then the doctors
36:29.5
will make a decision
36:30.8
whether to prescribe
36:32.1
based doon sa suggestion
36:34.2
nakita ng mga doktor
36:35.0
na ina-advertise.
36:38.9
take a quick break
36:41.0
with Senator Rafi Tulfo.
36:42.7
We'll be asking him
36:47.2
have been weighed with that.
36:49.2
will be right back.
37:15.3
We'll be right back.
37:45.3
We'll be right back.
38:17.3
quarantine methods
38:18.7
and we have allowed
38:20.5
more transportation
38:23.0
That's going to prove
38:24.2
to be better for demand.
38:27.2
the health protocols,
38:29.0
the ability of people
38:30.4
will likely contribute
38:31.6
better to growth.
38:45.3
And we should stand
38:50.2
whether the relationship
38:51.0
between the server
38:54.3
those five elements
38:55.8
that are the issues
38:56.7
surrounding the Dean.
38:58.1
And we should involve
38:58.9
the entire Rhode Island
38:59.7
around� Sherbay in
39:04.7
about these issues.
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we'll take a quick break
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and we'll see you next Wednesday.
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Have a great next week!
39:15.3
Thank you for watching!
39:45.3
Thank you for watching!
40:15.3
Thank you for watching!
40:45.3
Katrina Domingo reports.
40:48.7
President Ferdinand Marcos Jr. will revive the unit team in the 2025 midterm elections.
40:54.9
This was among his statements during the formal signing of an alliance between the President's Partido Federal ng Pilipinas and Lakas Christian Muslim Democrats,
41:03.9
a party which his cousin, Speaker Ferdinand Martin Romualdez heads.
41:08.4
Kagaya ng ating ginawa sa nakarang halalan, ay bubuhin uli natin.
41:15.0
I-formalize uli natin ang unit team para naman, pagka kumaharap tayo sa ating mga kinabukasan,
41:24.0
malalaman natin na tayo ay sapay-sabay, na nagtutulungan tayo ay sapay-sabay,
41:30.3
na kabalikat sa ating layunin na pagandahin ang Pilipinas, pagandahin ang buhay ng bawat Pilipino.
41:40.2
Lumakas ang loob natin dahil ang isinisigaw natin nung kampanya,
41:45.0
ay ang pagkakaisa, unity.
41:47.1
Nakita naman natin, natanggap na tanggap ng taong bayan, ang ating mensahe tungkol sa pagkakaisa.
41:54.0
But Vice President Sara Duterte, the other half of the 2022 elections unit team,
41:59.5
has yet to confirm if she and her regional party, Hugpong ng Pagbabago,
42:03.7
will indeed join the administration coalition in the upcoming polls.
42:07.4
The Vice President's relatives have been vocal critics of the President and the Speaker,
42:11.5
with former President Rodrigo Duterte accusing his successor,
42:15.0
of using illegal drugs.
42:16.9
While Davao City Mayor Sebastian Duterte had also called for Marcos Jr. to step down.
42:21.8
The Duterte family has also criticized the administration's push for charter change.
42:27.0
Huwag mong pakialaman niyang konstitusyon kasi that is good for 10 to 15 years.
42:37.7
So mong mong Marcos, wag kang ako, advice.
42:45.0
Hindi nga insulto, pero yung para sa akin, yung performance mo is, or was until now,
42:58.4
and still is, a dismal failure.
43:04.0
Romualdez, who has also been on the receiving end of verbal attacks from the Duterte family,
43:08.9
says they are still open to talk with the Vice President's regional party, Hugpong ng Pagbabago,
43:14.2
for a possible coalition.
43:15.0
He's still open for discussion, and of course, we will consult with him, of course.
43:20.2
Anything is possible.
43:22.3
Romualdez says the coalition is planning to fill the full slate for the 12-member Senate race,
43:27.7
and possible members of their ticket must be in favor of charter change.
43:33.0
Katrina Domingo, ABS-CBN News.
43:37.0
All right, we're still joined by Senator Rafi Tulfo.
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Senator Tulfo, good morning once again.
43:43.3
All right, this is...
43:45.0
Second half of Hot Copy.
43:46.9
So, you aren't running this 2025 because you just, you were just elected during the last elections.
43:53.8
Actually, tatakbo pa po kayo in 2028.
43:58.0
But the big question is, I want to ask you, your brother, Erwin Tulfo, he is number one,
44:04.4
I believe, in the latest Senate polls.
44:06.5
And with President Marcos now wanting, I mean, wanting to forge the unit team,
44:15.0
In the lower house, Erwin, as a deputy speaker, works closely with the speaker.
44:22.5
Is he running for the Senate?
44:24.2
Does he have plans to run for the Senate?
44:26.2
And would you want him to run for the Senate while you are a senator?
44:31.8
Well, first of all, pag nag-uusap kami ng Erwin, we don't talk about politics.
44:36.7
When I talk to my other brothers, we don't talk politics.
44:40.0
Pag nag-uusap kami, pinag-uusap kami ng mga personal matters, mga family, etc.
44:45.0
whether gusto ko ba si Erwin makasama sa Senate o hindi,
44:49.8
that is his decision.
44:51.1
I cannot stop him.
44:52.1
Hindi ko siya hawak sa liig.
44:53.5
Kung siya tumakbo, nanalo siya, so be it.
44:55.9
Kung kaya niya tumakbo, okay din.
44:57.7
So, it's not up to me.
44:59.5
Kung siya bakit dapat nasa Senado, wala.
45:03.2
Wala pala ito kasi kuya po kayo ni Erwin, di ba?
45:07.6
Kahit na mas matanda ako sa kanya,
45:09.6
hindi ko siya pipigilan sa kanyang mga gustong gawin.
45:12.5
Although, I can give advice.
45:14.3
I can give advice on certain matters.
45:17.1
Like I said, family matters, he comes to me and asks for advice.
45:20.6
Then, of course, ibibigay ko sa kanya.
45:22.1
Pero, about politics, I don't.
45:23.5
Kasi pareho kami ang politicians.
45:25.9
Pero, yan ang interesting kasi sa Senado, right?
45:28.6
It's changed through the years.
45:30.8
Ngayon, you have siblings in the Senate,
45:33.6
Alan and Peter Cayetano,
45:35.5
Jingoy and JV Estrada,
45:37.1
at one point, Jingoy and Loy Ejercito, right?
45:41.1
And, you have mother and son.
45:43.7
And, Cynthia Villar and Mark Villar.
45:48.4
Parang yun na po, yun tatlo na magkakamag-anak na nasa Senado.
45:52.6
And, it wasn't like that in the past, right?
45:56.0
But, now, it's getting to be more common than usual.
46:00.8
Are you against that principle?
46:03.1
Is that a factor for you?
46:05.1
That, nakakahiya naman pag dalawa pa tayong tulfo sa Senado?
46:09.7
Or, it's okay because my other colleagues are actually,
46:13.7
it's prevalent already.
46:15.5
It's commonplace in the Senate.
46:17.8
Now, ang tanong if it's okay or not okay,
46:21.3
kasi dati hindi nangyari yan.
46:23.1
We go back to sinabi kanina,
46:24.7
I cannot stop my brothers from running or doing what they want to do
46:27.9
kasi hindi ko naman sila hawak sa liig.
46:29.5
I'm not my brother's keeper.
46:31.7
On the other hand,
46:33.2
binoto sila ng taong bayan,
46:35.7
That's the people's decision.
46:37.1
Kahit na maglagay ka dyan ng mga magkapatid o mag-ina,
46:41.0
eh, pero kung hindi naman sila binoto,
46:42.8
then, sorry lang sila.
46:43.7
Eh, kung maglagay ka dyan ng mga mag-related sa isa't isa,
46:47.7
parehong Senado na binoto ng tao,
46:49.7
wala tayong magagawa doon ka rin.
46:51.8
It's up to the people
46:52.7
na whether to vote na mga Senado
46:56.1
na magkakapatid o magkakamag-anak,
46:59.7
Now, speaking about you in the last presidential survey,
47:03.5
you were neck and neck with a frontrunner,
47:06.6
Vice President Sara Duterte.
47:08.7
You ran as an independent for Senator.
47:11.9
Tama, sir, di ba?
47:13.7
Reminds me, right?
47:14.4
You ran as an independent.
47:18.3
you're in between two powerful personalities.
47:22.4
Where will Senator Rafi Tulfo end in 2028?
47:27.3
Una sa lahat, Karen,
47:29.2
palagi tinatangin sa akin,
47:30.7
maging mga kaibigan ko,
47:32.1
kung mo rin ay tatakbo sa presidential elections as president.
47:36.3
Pag sinabi kong hindi,
47:37.7
walang maniniwala.
47:38.5
Pag sinabi kong oo,
47:40.2
wala rin maniniwala.
47:41.1
So, ito lang ang sasabi ko.
47:46.8
as president sa 2028.
47:48.6
Naka-focus ako ngayon sa Senado.
47:49.9
And I'm enjoying being a senator.
47:52.2
Enjoying that much, being a senator.
47:55.9
sakit sa ulo lang yan, Karen.
47:57.7
Sa ngayon pa nga,
47:58.3
ang dani ko ng sakit sa ulo,
48:00.0
Marami nang nagagali sa akin
48:01.7
because of all these surveys
48:02.9
and mga fake news,
48:04.9
binabasya po, etc., etc.
48:08.0
pag ikaw ay nandoon na,
48:09.0
pag ikaw ay tatakbo.
48:11.6
meron akong 10% sakit sa ulo,
48:13.7
dahil may mga taong ayok patakboin
48:17.9
So much more siguro,
48:18.8
baka 10%, magiging 110% na
48:20.9
yung mga taong sisira sa akin,
48:23.2
yung mga taong gagawin
48:24.5
at magpapakala mga fake news.
48:26.2
I'm enjoying being a senator
48:27.4
and like being a senator.
48:29.0
As a 2028 re-election,
48:33.7
Hindi as a presidential candidate.
48:37.9
at the most re-election.
48:39.7
when I first interviewed you
48:41.4
for my YouTube channel?
48:42.9
And you had different parties
48:45.7
to run for the Senate?
48:47.5
And tinanong ko sa'yo noon,
48:49.8
it's in my YouTube channel,
48:51.2
what will make you
48:51.9
actually decide to run?
48:53.6
What will make you run?
48:54.7
Kasi you didn't want to run.
48:57.3
if my subscribers,
49:00.4
kasi you had 25 million
49:02.0
subscribers at that time,
49:04.2
if I hear a clamor
49:06.7
that they want me to run,
49:11.1
If it's the same thing,
49:15.9
your subscribers,
49:18.4
the people you serve
49:21.9
gusto ka nilang tumakbo,
49:25.4
Iba kasi yun sa Senado, Karen.
49:27.7
Iba naman yun sa pag-intresidente.
49:29.3
I'll tell you what's the difference.
49:31.2
Nung ako'y broadcaster
49:32.8
sa Wanted sa Radyo,
49:35.4
marami ako nakikita
49:36.1
ang problema na pwede kong solve
49:39.2
Marami sa akin nag-advise
49:40.2
mga subscribers ko,
49:42.9
if you go to the Senate,
49:43.8
pwede kang magpasa ng mga batas
49:44.9
para ma-address yung mga issues
49:46.1
na inilalapit sa'yo.
49:47.7
Kasi the common tao,
49:49.4
they are the ones
49:50.0
who comes to my action center
49:53.1
at na-aksyonan ko.
49:58.6
you have your hands full
50:00.6
hindi ka na maagawa ng batas
50:02.6
na para ma-address yung mga issues
50:05.0
na inilapit sa'yo.
50:06.1
And I'm enjoying being where I am
50:10.3
nakakahalubilo ko,
50:11.3
nakakaharap ko itong
50:12.9
Mga may kababayan
50:13.8
that comes to my action center
50:16.2
at na-address ko yung mga problem nila
50:17.7
at dinadala ko sa Senado.
50:22.5
you have certain advocacies.
50:23.9
Before we go to the PCSO,
50:26.0
one advocacy of yours
50:28.3
the Seafarers Act,
50:31.8
in protecting our seafarers.
50:34.1
Just very quickly,
50:35.7
how have you changed that
50:37.1
and what is the status today?
50:40.9
Pilipino seafarer right now,
50:42.9
ano bang nagbago doon?
50:46.0
Meron tayong bill
50:47.9
na hindi pa napipirma
50:50.5
pero I think sooner or later
50:52.3
mapipirma na yon.
50:53.7
So, itong Seafarers Act,
50:55.1
ito ay patungkol sa kapakanan
50:57.7
ng lahat ng mga seafarers natin.
51:02.8
baka in the next couple of weeks,
51:04.8
mapipirma ni Presidente yan.
51:07.9
nakapending sa desk niya
51:12.9
If you say kapakanan very quickly,
51:15.0
Is it in terms of insurance?
51:17.5
Pag may nangyari sa kanila,
51:19.9
Just briefly on this, sir.
51:22.4
Marami kasing mga benefits
51:24.8
na makukuha yung seafarers doon.
51:26.9
Protection sa kanila,
51:29.2
pati sa kanilang mga family
51:30.5
na yung family na dapat
51:33.2
na malalaman yung status
51:34.9
ng kanilang mga kabag-anak,
51:36.1
especially kung alam mo
51:36.9
yung kabag-anak nila
51:38.6
while they're working abroad.
51:40.7
vague yung batas natin
51:42.9
yung mga kabag-anak,
51:44.2
they are not properly informed.
51:45.8
Kuminsan, tinatago pa
51:49.1
ng mga kabag-anak abroad.
51:56.1
Para ma-address din
51:58.1
sa ambulance chasing.
52:00.8
Ambulance chasing,
52:04.3
looking for different doctors
52:05.8
or insurers quickly.
52:08.1
Well, itong ambulance chasing,
52:14.0
at mga alipores nila
52:18.5
itong mga seafarers
52:19.9
na para magdimanda
52:25.4
na may kumita sila
52:33.3
talo rin yung kumpanya doon eh.
52:37.5
Yan, isa-isa sa mga dahilan
52:38.5
kung bakit medyo bumababa
52:42.1
shipping companies
52:46.1
ambulance chasing problem
52:51.0
So, that's still a bill.
52:52.2
It hasn't been signed into law.
52:54.2
Another issue extensively
52:55.8
is the Philippine Charity
52:58.1
sweepstakes investigation.
53:00.3
Just last February,
53:01.6
they already submitted to you
53:03.9
the list of Lotto winners,
53:13.9
after that hearing,
53:18.7
Are there stricter systems
53:22.0
to already determine
53:27.6
Very good question.
53:30.3
I'll tell you kung
53:33.3
sent investigation
53:37.1
nung magpalabas sila
53:37.9
sa kanilang website
53:40.0
parang mga tanga,
53:43.5
mayroon isang alleged winner
53:44.8
na tumatanggap ng cheque
53:46.7
na naka-sumbrero,
53:55.9
So, hindi natin alam
53:57.4
ay winner o hindi.
53:58.9
Now, since the hearing,
54:00.0
ano yung mga nangyari na?
54:02.7
we're still waiting
54:05.2
to submit a complete report
54:06.8
because I requested
54:07.6
from the Department of Information
54:09.1
and Communication Technology
54:17.9
and they haven't come back
54:21.7
nakausap ko itong si
54:27.2
tomorrow, Friday,
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isasabit nila yung
54:31.4
At doon sa partial report na yun,
54:33.1
meron silang tatlong
54:35.2
or main concerns.
54:36.2
Sabi ko, ano yun?
54:37.1
Isasabit nila doon tomorrow.
54:38.4
Once that is submitted to me,
54:41.3
agad-agad magpapataw.
54:42.1
Ang nakikita kong problema,
54:47.5
yung sa tinatawag na
54:51.9
Ano yung root access?
54:53.4
Yung privilege control.
54:55.5
Para master kyan eh.
54:57.1
Na yung sino may hawak noon,
54:59.8
pwedeng pumasok, lumabas
55:01.2
sa computer system,
55:02.7
pwede siya mag-delete,
55:04.0
pwede siya mag-add,
55:05.6
pwede siya mag-manipulate
55:06.8
yung laman doon sa loob
55:08.0
ng system na yon.
55:10.0
may isang tao yun?
55:15.6
Ang may hawak lang
55:16.3
ng root access ay
55:17.6
si GM at yung kanyang alipores.
55:20.4
yung kanyang tanang kamay.
55:22.4
So, pwede silang magsabotan, right?
55:25.3
It's an independent auditing firm
55:29.1
That's how I would do it.
55:30.5
Somebody not connected
55:31.5
to the PCSO at all.
55:34.6
connected sa PCSO ka rin.
55:36.8
kung gusto ko sana,
55:37.7
may check and balance.
55:41.2
alisin na yung kanyang alipores,
55:42.9
ilalagay si chairman.
55:45.9
it's an open secret.
55:47.7
they don't see eye to eye.
55:49.5
may check and balance doon.
55:50.8
Yun ang gusto ko mangyari.
55:52.0
Sabi naman ni Robles,
55:54.2
wala kasi sa kontrata yan
55:55.7
sa service provider.
55:56.7
Nakalagay kung sino lang
55:57.7
ang pwede magkaroon
56:01.2
Baguhin yung kontrata na yan,
56:02.6
ilagay doon si chairman
56:05.1
sa susunod na administration,
56:07.5
maglagay ng chairman
56:09.5
Hindi yung isang tao lang.
56:11.2
At kanyang alipores
56:12.0
o kanyang kasabuat
56:13.9
magkakaroon ng root access.
56:16.0
I mean, between us,
56:18.7
they don't see eye to eye.
56:20.5
But money is usually,
56:22.7
the temptation, right?
56:25.1
The temptation with money
56:26.8
is one thing that binds
56:27.9
people together too.
56:29.7
So, I don't know,
56:31.9
if they're both from PCSO
56:33.4
instead of like having
56:35.1
an independent firm
56:36.2
as the second one?
56:38.1
Where the independent firm
56:39.3
has a lot to lose
56:41.2
Thank you, Karen.
56:43.1
That's the reason
56:43.9
nirequest ko sa DICT
56:47.3
ng total assessment
56:53.1
At ginagawa na ngayon
56:55.1
and then they will make
56:56.2
recommendation doon.
56:57.1
Kaya sa susunod na hearing,
56:57.9
papatawag kong DICT,
56:59.1
patatawag kong commission
57:00.6
patatawag ko lahat
57:03.0
yung problema ngayon
57:06.2
I'm still waiting.
57:07.2
Hopefully, tomorrow,
57:08.2
ibigay nga talaga sa akin
57:12.3
sa computer system
57:14.2
Because at the end of the day,
57:16.7
we never really know
57:21.4
what was the biggest?
57:22.9
Was it 2.4 billion ba?
57:26.2
What was the biggest winner?
57:33.4
mamayag na ako sa akin
57:34.3
the biggest winner.
57:38.7
dapat ipagbawal na.
57:40.9
a Christmas last year.
57:43.3
Ang kuwala ng PCSO,
57:45.1
lahat ng mga prices sa loto,
57:49.1
kakalahatim bilyon.
57:54.8
Nung dagdagan nila
57:58.8
oh, lo and behold,
58:00.2
meron agad mga nanalo.
58:02.6
Can you believe that?
58:05.3
marami mga tao sabi,
58:06.2
oh, pwede, possible,
58:07.3
kasi tinaasan yung premyo,
58:08.6
kaya tumas yung pagtaya.
58:12.4
eh, dapat nitiinataasan yan.
58:13.9
Dapat pabayaan lang
58:14.9
na tumaas yung premyo
58:16.7
dahil sa mga taya.
58:18.8
Yung premyo dyan,
58:23.5
dapat ibigay nyo lang sa charity,
58:25.5
kasi yun naman talaga
58:26.1
ang purpose ng PCSO,
58:28.5
Yung meron ka ng ipon,
58:30.0
ibabalik mo pa ulit.
58:31.5
Tap, ibabalik mo pa pat,
58:32.9
and then yung pat na yan,
58:35.3
And you don't know the winner.
58:36.7
That's the problem there.
58:40.3
meron dyan sa Binondo,
58:43.6
tumaya ng 30 million each,
58:46.2
so total of 90 million.
58:49.5
Yes, tinama niya.
58:51.7
yung outlet ang tumaya.
58:55.7
Tumaya sa outlet na yon.
58:57.2
Hindi yung may-ari.
58:58.1
Tumaya sa outlet na yon.
58:59.5
And we don't know who,
59:00.5
who that person is.
59:01.5
It could be the owner,
59:02.3
it could be anybody.
59:03.4
Pero tatlong outlet,
59:04.7
isa lang may-ari,
59:06.7
may tumaya ng 30,
59:09.6
At tinamaan yung pat.
59:11.2
yan kasama sa investigation namin next time,
59:13.2
papataw ka yung AMLAC.
59:14.2
Dapat ma-AMLAC yun,
59:15.7
yung tumaya ng yon.
59:17.8
Punta ka sa casino,
59:19.1
tumaya ka nga lang ng isang million.
59:20.8
Nandun ang AMLAC,
59:25.4
hindi man lang napunta sa radar ng AMLAC.
59:30.9
dapat yun para sa mga mahirap.
59:33.7
Lotto is for the individual better.
59:37.6
the individual better,
59:40.3
the owner of the Lotto.
59:43.2
Dito para mga investor na to eh.
59:44.8
You invest by the millions,
59:47.2
para may babalik sa'yo
59:48.9
by the hundreds of millions.
59:50.8
ginagawang negosyo.
59:52.0
ang purpose naman ng Lotto,
59:53.4
para sa mga malilit na kababayan natin,
59:55.1
na magkaroon sila ng outlet,
60:01.6
Anong nangyari ngayon,
60:03.5
sinasabi ng mga netizens,
60:05.6
yung mga gustong panalunin,
60:06.7
ng mga taga-PCSO,
60:07.9
yung marami mga pera,
60:09.6
tataya nila halos datang numero,
60:11.5
using their money,
60:13.4
meron pa bang nananalo
60:15.3
Marami nagsasabi na wala.
60:18.2
That's why we are having this hearing
60:19.9
to investigate that.
60:21.7
my last question quickly
60:22.8
because we don't have enough time.
60:24.4
But we can discuss the PCSO issue
60:26.7
after your next hearing.
60:28.5
What about online Lotto?
60:30.7
I know that was a part of your investigation too.
60:33.1
They opened online Lotto.
60:38.1
yung isa sa mga inibisigahan namin.
60:39.9
Yan yung isang reason
60:41.0
bakit I requested from the DICT
60:43.3
to check and to assess
60:45.3
itong online Lotto,
60:46.3
hindi lang sa online Lotto,
60:47.0
pati itong regular Lotto
60:48.0
na may mga outlet,
60:49.1
yung vulnerability
60:49.8
na kung ito ba'y pwede ma-hack,
60:51.4
na kung ito ba'y pwede manipula.
60:54.8
maglalabas yung DICT
60:57.4
ng result of our investigation.
60:59.3
And after na makuha ko yung result na yan,
61:02.2
na idibigay sa akin,
61:04.9
then we will have a hearing,
61:05.8
maybe in a couple,
61:09.4
is it possible to like
61:11.1
home visit the winners
61:14.6
like confidentially?
61:17.1
if when they were real people,
61:19.1
they were real winners?
61:22.2
did they do that abroad?
61:25.1
kaya pinapayagin.
61:26.1
Like there's an audit somehow,
61:27.7
let's say so and so won.
61:29.5
Talagang privately,
61:31.3
pupuntahan mo sa bahay,
61:33.0
totoong tao siya,
61:36.2
you don't have to,
61:36.7
you don't have to do that.
61:37.8
Pinapublicize pa,
61:40.7
wala naman tayong batas,
61:41.5
pinagbabawal yan.
61:42.9
PCSO nag-decide na
61:44.3
huwag natin gawin yan
61:45.2
kasi for the security of
61:47.5
which I agree naman.
61:49.9
Pero kung pag-uusapan natin
61:51.6
the name of transparency,
61:53.4
ipakita yung muka
61:55.8
para malaman natin
61:56.9
na talagang totoong tao
61:58.4
at hindi gawa-gawa lamang
61:59.6
na hindi kamag-anak
62:03.8
So you want their faces,
62:05.5
you want them announced?
62:09.4
but there must be
62:10.7
transparency somehow?
62:15.9
I-advertise natin
62:20.8
Hanggat hindi ginagawa yan,
62:24.2
at hindi ko sila masisisi.
62:25.4
On the other hand,
62:26.1
I'm going to tell
62:27.5
how about the security
62:28.7
naman ng mga nanalo
62:33.0
Siguro pag-aralan nyo ito
62:39.5
kung sino yung mga nanalo
62:40.7
ng mga premium yun
62:41.3
para mabawasin yung pagdududa
62:42.7
sa integrity ng PCSO.
62:45.9
thank you for joining me today.
62:47.6
Senator Rafi Tulfo,
62:50.0
Thank you, Karen.
62:51.7
And that's Head Start today.
62:53.3
I'm Karen Davila.
62:54.2
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