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Ang PIDEA reports na nag-uugnay kinapangulong Bongbong Marcos at aktres na si Maricel Soriano sa iligal na droga.
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Mas mahalaga pa rin aniya ang kredibilidad ng isang ulat upang malaman kung totoo ba ang mga nilalaman ng dokumento.
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Kaya nanawagan si Gadon kay Senate President Juan Miguel Zubiri na palitan si de la Rosa sa komite.
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Nais lamang daw kasi ng senador na bumuo ng destabilisasyon laban sa pangulo.
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Dapat talaga ay itigil na.
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Dapat talaga ay itigil na.
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Yung hearing na yan ng komite ni Sen. de la Rosa dahil wala namang patutunguhan at pag-aaksaya lamang ng pera ng gobyerno.
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Yung hearing-hearing na yan.
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At yan naman ay base lamang sa chismis.
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Isipin nyo kung ang sinasabi ni Sen. Bato ay authentic daw yung form, yung report.
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It refers only to the authenticity of the form.
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Eh kahit naman sinong empleyado ng gobyerno, pwede kang gumawa ng report doon sa form or na ipi-fill up mo.
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And then, what matters most is yung credibility nung nire-report mo.
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Kung ang iyong superior ay tinanggi o ibinasura yung report mo kasi nga hindi naman credible,
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eh di wala, there is no report to be investigated upon.
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The form may be authentic, but how about the credibility na it refers to truthfulness of the report, of the contents of the report?
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Ngayon, kung pagbabasihan mo lang ng investigasyon ay yung form na authentic daw dahil kasi pinirmahan at yun daw ay ginawa nung si Morales,
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eh, how about the authenticity?
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Eh, how about the authenticity?
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Of the contents of the report?
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Eh kung yun ay binasura na or hindi man lang na na-i-file doon ng kanilang superior o officially documented by the office,
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eh di wala, pagsasayang lang talaga ng pondo ng gobyerno yung hearing-hearing na yan.
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Ako nananawagan ako kay Senator, kay Senate President Migsubiri na palitan, tanggalin na dyan sa committee na yan si Baco de la Rosa.
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Dahil kasi, nakita nyo naman, wala naman talagang pinatutunguhan kundi gusto lang ay mag-create ng disabilisasyon kay President Bongbong Marcos.
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Nako, alam nyo, namimiss ko yung araw na ang mga senador ay talagang mahuhusay, matatalino, magagaling,
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whose erudition of the issues being discussed in the Senate are all so intelligent, smart, bright,
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and very scholarly.
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Eh itong si Senator Baco de la Rosa, eh isipin nyo naman, he cannot even express himself in straight English,
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and even in Tagalog, mali-mali pa, o kaya nauutal pa.
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Ano ba naman klaseng senador yan?
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Kaya dapat huwag nang gawin ng chairman niya ng committee.
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Senator Migs, dapat yung dinastos niya sa hearing na yan ay isingil, dapat ay bayaran ni Senator Baco de la Rosa.
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Walang kakwenta-kwenta.
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Okay, Billy, go ahead.
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Isa pa po, hindi lang po na-reaction after po nung third hearing sa Senate nung PDLX,
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so-called PDLX, meron mas lumakas po yung panawagan ng ibang senators na tigilan na yung investigation nila.
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Senate hearings and congressional hearings are actually paid by taxpayers' money.
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Kaya kapag may mga investigasyon, ang importante ditong masagot ay,
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saan ba ito patutungo?
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Ano ba ang magiging benepisyo ng taong bayan?
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Ano ba yung mga batas na kailangang gawin, or mga batas na kailangang baguhin
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para matagunan at hindi maulit yung mga problema na hikita?
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Apparently, in the Senate investigation on PDLX,
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what we are saying, is that we are saying, is that we are saying, is that we are saying, is that we are saying,
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is that we are saying, is a confused narrative.
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Kasi nga, nagtuturoan na na, ay hindi, nagsisinungaling yan, ay hindi, palaging ano yan, storytelling, liar, may mga ganong accusations.
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Now, where will this bring us?
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I believe the best thing that can be done as a legislator also,
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is for the committee to go back, maybe three or four steps backward,
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gather all the evidence,
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decipher whether totoo ba yan o hindi.
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Because if you put alleged witnesses or whistleblowers in the limelight,
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and gave them, meron kasing iba, gustong gusto nila yan pag may media attention.
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Ngayon, pag nilagay mo sila doon at pinasalita mo ng pinasalita,
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sometimes, others can tell the truth,
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pero yung iba kasi, they have to prove something at medyo nawiwindang na.
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And at the end of the day, sino ang kawawa dito?
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Yung mga taong bayang nakokonfirmal.
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Yung mga mga mga mga mga mga mga mga,
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it's human nature to be a little bit marites eh.
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But at the end of the day, yung marites ba na yun ay mamagandang maidudulot,
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lalo na kung hindi totoo.
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Now, will that lead to instability of the country?
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Because people will be getting confused.
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And leaders are being accused.
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Paano naman yung mga, kasi ako naranasan ko yan na,
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may mga magte-testify na kunyari expert, as hindi naman expert.
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Yung ibang mga totoong experts ay hindi nabibigyan ng panahon na magsalita.
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But at the end of the day, it's actually ruining our country.
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It's okay to do investigations, pero dapat yung mga informasyon na nilalatag ay totoo, nakitaan ng ebidensya, at talagang may direksyon.
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Because at the end of the day, we are wasting taxpayers' money.
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If there are really concrete allegations and proof, let's investigate.
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But if it's just an investigation so that people will talk about things, medyo mahirap rin yun.
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Kaya yun nga yung isa, there should be accountability of fake experts and fake witnesses. Maraming salamat.
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I agree. Tama yung sinasabi ni Congressman Darin na careful din tayo dapat.
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In fact, some senators have also cautioned the members of the committee to proceed carefully.
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Kasi nga, when somebody testifies and claims this or that, ang impact niyan sa reputation of the person being accused of something is damaged na agad.
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So we have to be careful on who we invite as witnesses, and should we call them again in the succeeding hearings?
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Because what happened, as I saw some of the portions dun sa hearing na yun,
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di ba somebody made up this story and actually admitted na ginawa ko lang yun so that I can be in this committee hearing?
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Which actually happened.
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So di ba, some are saying na it's now becoming a circus, yung committee hearing na yun.
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Tama yung sinasabi ni Congressman Darin din. Anong direction? What do you want to achieve?
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Now, if you're running a circus, you will naturally invite the clowns in.
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So that's what we want to avoid.
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Di ba, sayang lang eh na hindi mo na kasi mabawi yung damage that you will do to the person once you testify na this or that.
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And it's based pala on something.
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Ang unnamed informant, based on an unverified claim, and no follow-up investigation was ever made.
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Yet, three hearings have already been spent on it.
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One more coming up daw, sabi nila.
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So, while it is not our place to tell them what to do, no?
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Pero sa akin lang, it's like, just like the House din, we should always be very careful in siguro selecting who we,
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invite us, so-called witnesses.
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Initial comment po siguro, like we've always said before, generally, we don't want to comment po, no?
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On the proceedings of Senate, as respect.
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But it can't be helped po, no? Napaka-laking issue po yung nangyari doon.
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And we could see it. I think, hindi na, don't take our word for it, hindi na po kami siguro,
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I won't present this as comment namin.
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Ang comment ng mga kapwa-senador po nila.
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It's, this is on the third hearing already, as early as the first, I think, or second hearing,
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may mga senador na, who would take part of the committee, only to say na parang wala, this is not going anywhere.
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Senate President Zubiri made a statement, during the hearing, I think, the second hearing,
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nag-statement po siya sa, I guess, media forum rin nila sa Senate, na urging caution kay Chairman Bato and his committee.
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It happened again.
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During the third hearing, this time, si Senate President Zubiri, nag-attend mismo ng hearing,
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just to say that, urging caution, and urging proper use of their time.
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And I understand, respect siguro po, they have all the respect kay Chairman Bato,
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so as not to interfere, after all, committee niya po ito.
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Pero you could see the sentiment po, this is not us talking, this is yung Senate po mismo.
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They are out there to, as Senate President Zubiri said, to protect the integrity of our Senate, your Senate.
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Siya na po mismo nagsasabi.
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Parang, in kinder terms po, na tama na po.
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Parang, it seems to be going nowhere.
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We've had many Senators who seem to express the same sentiment.
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Pumasa po doon dati si Senator Grace po, made that comment.
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Senator Escudero, Senator Jingoy, you also have other Senators who have attended,
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and really po, I don't know kung saan po, ako po mismo, di ko po rin po alam kung saan po papunta itong committee hearing.
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And in general po, with that, nakakadismaya, because again, in comparison, we have a lot of pending bills.
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Kami po dito sa House, tapos na po sa ledak priority, we're waiting on our counterparts sa Senate.
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You can see po kung gano'ng kapresyos ang time sa Senado.
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As compared dito, we have 300 plus congressmen, pag-committee, in and out, we have the luxury na magbabad sa hearing buo.
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Pero nakita po natin sa PDLX, labas-pasok ang mga Senator.
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This is not because hindi silang tatrabaho, but because they have other committees po siguro.
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Engagements. Pero ito yung nakakapagtaka.
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Tapos na po yung ledak priorities natin, sila hindi pa.
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Yet we have this third hearing going on fourth hearing, na there are like six Senators who are attending.
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Paano na po yung mga ledak priorities natin doon?
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Are they currently being discussed? Or is it going to go anywhere?
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Paano na po yung economic reform po natin?
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Parang wala pong mangyayari.
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So I think that's why, this is a personal opinion now, siguro ng the House, na nakakadismaya po yung nangyayari doon.
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It seems to be nag-aaksaya po ng oras.
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If you look at the hearing, tatlong hearings na po yan, nagkaroon lang ng clarity at the very last hour,
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nung pumasok po yung discussion between Senator Escudero and Attorney de Valle, ba yun?
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Attorney de Villa?
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When they had the discussion on yung PDLX na mismo, doon lang nagkaroon ng clarity.
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And I think then and there, natapos na po yung issue ng inquiry.
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Supposedly, tukos sa PDLX ito.
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Yet we still afford these supposed witnesses, whistleblowers, the opportunity na sinasakay na po tayo.
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Kung saan saan man.
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So yun lang po, I think, is our comment here.
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As much as possible, we would urge siguro po yung Senate to, we've always been urging them to give priority dito sa LEDAC natin and sa economic revisions.
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All the more now, in light of this hearing po na parang dead end na po.
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I believe Congressman Salasing would also like to...
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Very quick comment lang po.
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Actually, I think several things that we've noticed.
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First is, magsisinid-DA na po next week.
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So we have a lot of priority measures that we have to pass before we go on break.
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So hopefully po, we resonate the calls of the other senators na sana ma-funnel po yung time instead of gearing it towards the third hearing or a fourth hearing.
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Sana po mag-gear towards.
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And pushing for the priority measures.
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Siguro po, one thing that is a little bit concerning with regard to these hearings is merong narratives relating to the president.
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And that's perhaps something that we would like to again reiterate that whenever there are things relating to the president at nakikita po ito in a national stage or even an international stage,
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it also affects the image of the country.
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So we would like to again reiterate our call to Senator Bato to please exercise caution in all of these hearings.
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And sana po, in the way these hearings are conducted, mag-follow po tayo ng rules or ng protocol kasi meron pong nangyari wherein one of the witnesses, I believe it was Morales,
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said something a little bit untoward towards Senator Jinggoy.
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So towards a member of the Senate.
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So in those cases, usually here in the House, if a witness starts exhibiting those sorts of behavior,
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sinasabihan siya na we will hold you in contempt or we can cite you in contempt.
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Pero I think in terms of the procedural way it was conducted, medyo hindi po yata.
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The witness was not told to back down.
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I think that's where the senators are coming from as well, in the way that the hearings are being conducted.
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Just a few thoughts as well on the matter.
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If I can add a little to what my colleagues mentioned.
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Actually, it's not a matter of because the president is the one being alleged to or alluded to.
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Whether that will be the president, whether it's a senator, it's a congressman.
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Lalo't lalo na kapag pangkaraniwang tao, it's no difference.
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The issue here is not kung sino ang mga pinagsasabihan ng issue here.
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But the issue here is the code of conduct of a legislator.
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Kasi kami naman sa totoo lang, without the power of our people, we are nothing.
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Kung wala yung mandato ng tao sa amin, wala naman kami ng ganong power.
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So that power to legislate.
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Actually makes you the voice of your people.
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And proper conduct mandates that if you are the voice of your people,
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you have to be very careful na hindi magagamit yung boses na yun dun sa mga interest ng iba.
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Alam nyo, minsan marami ang pwede maging interest.
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Natural yan na merong mga gustong medyo magulo at masalimuot.
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There are just a minority of people who are happy if there is infighting.
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Pangalawa, it's a very prestigious body that's a Senate.
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So with due respect to Senator Baton, na talagang nire-respeto naman natin,
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we cannot use the four corners of Senate and being a legislator to just put anything under the sun.
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With power comes responsibility.
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It's not because it's the President, meron mga artista na pinapangalanan.
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It's not the appointed.
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The point is, if this will not stop, this can be a precedent where anybody can be damaged just because merong nakapasok.
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Admittedly in any organization, be it in the Philippines or abroad,
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meron talaga yung isang tao sa isang opisina na walang gagawin kundi mamuna maghanap ng mali ng iba.
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That happens in many offices.
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I've been to many offices in the executive and the legislative.
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Ganon talaga yun eh. Kasi ganon talaga yung tao.
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There are offices na merong mga tao dyan na walang ibang gagawin.
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Kundi maghanap ng mga diferensya, mag-report, or mag-maritest sa ibang mga opisina.
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But the real workers will become victims to this.
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Kasi yung mga taga-ikot at taga-intriga, pag hindi mo i-validate yun,
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ang mga natatamaan ay yung totoong nagtatabaho.
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So how can we now deliver to our people if we will have a system like this
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that unvalidated?
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Witnesses will be given the platform.
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Because, I mean, as a doctor, merong iba dyan sa psychology nila,
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let me have that two cents worth of getting the limelight.
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Mapupunta ka sa media, titignan ka ng lahat.
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Yung iba niyan baka nga medyo nabola.
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Mga ganong bagay, no? I mean, pwede hindi ito nangyari.
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But as we are seeing the investigation,
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it's unfolding that there is no proper vetting
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of who will be given that microphone.
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Yes, the precious time of Senate is being dragged.
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Kasi nga, maraming ang kailangan ipasa.
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Pero hindi lang yun eh.
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Andun niyo yung power na binigay sa atin,
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na temporary, na dapat nating pangalagaan,
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na hindi natin pwedeng gamitin para siraan yung iba.
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Unless there is really a clear basis.
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Again, with our power comes responsibility.
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With that responsibility,
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is to make sure that the voice of the people
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at the legislative power will not be used
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by some interested parties.
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It's not about the president.
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It's not about actors or actresses and prominent people.
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Paano na yung iba?
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Na kung walang-walang laban,
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kaya lang hindi sila makalapit sa isang senador
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at may lumapit doon at nanira ng ibang tao
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that will push them down to mental jeopardy.
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So we as legislators,
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should be responsible to filter
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real, accurate witnesses.
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Habol ko lang po.
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Do you think po na put in question yung leadership ng Senate
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on how they handle yung PDA-LICS investigation?
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hindi naman siguro because
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Senator Migs is coming out,
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as I've heard from our colleagues.
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But I believe this is the best opportunity
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for the Senate leadership to come out in the open
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and call a spade a spade
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and put order within the Senate.
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We acknowledge the presence of House Committee on Women
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and Gender Equality,
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Chairperson and Bataan First District Representative,
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Geraldine P. Roman.
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Thank you for joining us, ma'am.
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Good morning, everyone.
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Doon sa leadership na.
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Senate President Migs has several times made a comment
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about being cautious about it.
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But at the same time, he said that he also respects
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the committee system of the Senate.
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So I don't think it's really an issue on leadership,
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siguro intent or purpose of the
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the continued hearings on the PDA LICS.
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I think that's where
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we should question.
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Ano ba talaga ang gusto nilang
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Yes, ma'am. Go ahead.
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We recognize the independence of the legislative branch of government.
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We are co-equal with the executive.
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And we do not question the prerogative of the Senate
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if they want to conduct
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an investigative inquiry, no?
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But let us be reminded that these acts,
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these investigations have a sole purpose of
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trying to improve legislation.
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So as my colleague said,
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what is the point?
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What is their real intention?
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You know, when I view things,
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how they are conducting this inquiry,
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and I look back at the past administration,
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I can't help but wonder,
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what is the real intent of Senator Bato de la Rosa?
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I would like to think that he would like to improve on legislation,
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but I also ask myself, you know,
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it's inevitable, it's in the mind of everyone.
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Kung itong investigasyon na ito ay nangyayari sa nakarang administrasyon,
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ano kaya nangyayari ngayon, ano?
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Parang merong kakulangan ng paggalang
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sa pagkataon ng ating Pangulo,
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na pati ngayong kinu-question,
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eh malinaw naman lumalabas sa press na negative siya.
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Bakit natin pinagpipilitan?
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So nananawagan ako sa aking kaibigan,
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Senator Bato de la Rosa,
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maybe you should focus your energy on more productive and matters
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that really concern our citizens in the country.
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Katulad nga mami,
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siguro mapag-uusapan din natin yung ating rice clarification law,
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yung anti-discrimination bill based on sexual orientation,
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gender identity, and expression,
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and so many, many other legislative measures
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that are more pressing and more urgent, no?
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Ay ganda nung salita na ang ibig sabihin dito ay ang pagkakaisa.
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Bunyog Party List!
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Haliga na! Haliga na! Bunyog Party List ka na!
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Sa susunod, ang natinang suportahan, Bunyog Party List,
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