00:46.9
kasi under international law,
00:50.1
if the head of state
00:51.2
makes a commitment that binds
00:53.8
the country, even if the
00:55.7
legal process internally have not been
00:57.7
followed. Because under international law,
00:59.3
the head of state is presumed
01:01.3
to have the authority to negotiate
01:03.5
for the state. So
01:05.0
ang sa kanila, get Duterte to
01:16.8
he probably didn't know the
01:19.3
consequences of his statement, no?
01:23.4
Well, I mean, this is Duterte
01:25.1
we're talking about after all. Sana naman
01:27.3
kinuha yung kamay niya, nilagay yung stamp
01:29.3
ng ganyan, di ba?
01:30.8
Ito ka nga, ito yung lalagay nilang gano'n
01:33.3
para at least may fingerprint.
01:34.5
You know, we do not know. Richard, we do
01:37.3
not know what the Chinese are holding. Kasi
01:39.1
when the Global Times said
01:41.4
there was an agreement, biglang
01:42.9
bumaliktad si Duterte, parang
01:44.9
takot si Duterte. Baka may hawak na.
01:46.9
May pinitik siya.
01:51.4
Baka may video sila.
01:53.1
So, bakit bumaliktad bigla siya?
01:57.2
Parang may paka-trump, di ba? Biglang pag nandito.
01:59.3
Nandun si Putin. Ay, mabait na siya
02:01.0
biglang kinokontrol niya. I mean, honestly,
02:03.3
we don't know, right? Justice
02:05.1
Carpio. I mean, those were crazy times.
02:07.2
We don't know exactly what the Chinese
02:09.2
are holding because they're insisting
02:11.3
na there was such an agreement.
02:14.9
did Duterte suddenly
02:16.5
turn around and said, oo, meron
02:20.9
So, they may have something on him, no?
02:23.1
Kaya nga, I use the word kompromate.
02:24.6
Well, it's possible.
02:29.3
I mean, biglang being biglang.
02:31.2
It's possible that
02:32.5
they can document it.
02:35.1
They probably can prove it that there is such
02:37.3
a gentleman's agreement.
02:41.4
But, Justice Carpio, aren't
02:43.4
they endangering their
02:45.1
I had to use the term. Aren't they
02:47.2
endangering their asset by doing
02:49.3
this? I mean, aren't the Chinese compromising
02:51.3
Duterte? I mean, if this gets
02:53.2
investigated and Duterte gets burned,
02:59.3
they're not coming out yet that
03:03.9
I mean, they're hinting
03:05.1
so that he will fall in line.
03:07.9
Or, you follow the
03:09.3
script that there is such a gentleman's
03:11.3
agreement. Oo, kagad siya.
03:13.8
Well, just to be clear,
03:15.5
I didn't mean asset in terms of
03:17.2
intelligence. I just meant asset
03:19.2
in terms of a good friend. My term
03:21.4
on China, di ba, our special friend.
03:24.1
Old friend of China.
03:25.5
I think that's the correct term. Sorry. I didn't mean
03:27.3
asset in that sense, just to be clear.
03:29.3
Kaya mamaya mamisunderstood tayo.
03:33.1
if you look at it, it's very
03:35.4
strange because he was definite
03:37.2
that there was no agreement.
03:41.1
Panelo, sinungaling yan.
03:43.7
Publicity seeking yan.
03:45.4
Eh, biglang bumaliktad. I mean,
03:47.9
that in itself is
03:49.1
very suspicious, no?
03:52.9
So, tama si Harry Roque.
03:55.3
Tama yung sinabi natin, mas maniwala
03:57.3
tayo kay Harry Roque kaysa kay Panelo.
03:59.3
I mean, push comes to shove
04:01.6
between Panelo and Harry Roque.
04:03.6
We're gonna choose Harry Roque. I mean, at least
04:05.3
on this one, he was proven.
04:07.2
I think, push comes to shove
04:09.2
between Harry Roque and Panelo.
04:11.2
Muhang Harry Roque was the more reliable
04:13.2
source after all.
04:16.1
Eh, si Harry Roque,
04:21.1
Although, when Panelo
04:23.3
denied it, talagang bilib na
04:27.4
bilib siya na wala. Kasi sabi niya,
04:31.8
So, Justice Gary, going back
04:33.2
to President Marcos Jr.,
04:35.3
did the President go far enough
04:37.1
in terms of calling for investigation,
04:38.8
in your mind? And do you think it's just a matter of time
04:43.3
for Congress to move ahead with investigation?
04:45.5
What is your understanding of this?
04:56.4
resolution calling for an investigation.
04:58.8
And in the lower house, there's another
05:00.9
resolution filed, I think, by the
05:11.8
So, this is progressive
05:13.1
people. So, none of them are allied to the
05:14.9
President. Why not yung mga allies
05:16.8
of the President? A lot of them have their own
05:18.7
acts to grant. And daming galit
05:20.8
kayo sa Congress lang, diba?
05:22.8
Ito na yung chance nila.
05:24.4
Bakit di sila makara ng SMNI-style hearing?
05:28.8
they can support it.
05:30.1
They will support that.
05:32.4
Kawawa naman yung mga leftist, ginamit na naman
05:34.6
sila pang cannon fodder.
05:36.5
Alam naman style ng mga trapo talaga.
05:38.6
Alam naman natin ang nangyari dito.
05:40.4
I'm not talking about Riza, obviously, because this is
05:42.6
Senate, ibang usapan. But sa lower house,
05:45.0
minsan ganun ang ginagawa. Ginagawa
05:46.6
ang cannon fodder yung mga...
05:48.3
Well, they're using each other, as usual.
05:52.4
mga pangusapan yun,
05:54.3
na justice, baka maano tayo dyan.
05:56.4
Marali tayo sa labas ng bahay natin.
05:59.3
Yes, yes, justice.
06:03.7
They're actually using each other. That's the bottom line.
06:08.7
convenience. What's so surprising?
06:11.3
Justice, going back to
06:12.4
President Marcos Jr., I want to ask you this.
06:14.5
Do you think President Marcos Jr. is
06:17.4
marupok or Machiavellian?
06:21.0
In a sense that, is he
06:22.4
too much of a fox and not enough
06:24.4
of a lion? Or is that we're not
06:31.2
he still talks about
06:33.2
Sarah Duterte in good terms.
06:34.9
When he was asked about, bakit no comment
06:37.1
si Sarah? Todo defensa kay
06:39.0
Sarah Duterte. Kaya may mga comments.
06:41.3
Ano ba itong marupok?
06:42.1
Oh, but there's something new, ha? Have you seen the video?
06:44.9
No, no, no. Please, please go ahead.
06:46.6
Did I lose something on this?
06:48.2
Have you seen the video?
06:50.7
There was a video.
06:52.0
I sent you a video in
06:55.1
the president arrived and there
06:58.1
was a reception in Malacanang.
07:00.7
Sarah Duterte was there.
07:06.1
should greet first the vice president.
07:08.4
But the president did not greet Sarah.
07:10.7
He greeted others and
07:12.2
Sarah was standing there and
07:14.0
so Sarah just left together with
07:18.7
Oh, yeah, yeah. I shared that one.
07:20.2
Yeah, I shared that. Naka 1 million views na tayo.
07:22.3
I think that's my most viewed video.
07:24.4
Yeah, I saw that. Actually, there's a debate
07:26.4
on that. Can you tell us about it, Dr.
07:28.1
That's the latest.
07:34.3
the latest and I think
07:35.9
that says a lot, ha?
07:38.5
That says a lot of the
07:40.2
relationship between the president because
07:42.3
to greet is a very
07:46.3
I mean, that's part of
07:52.2
want to be civilized about
07:57.9
it's a very normal relationship.
08:00.1
She was snubbed by the president.
08:02.4
So umalis siya. Inisnub niya rin
08:06.1
Yeah, I saw that. I think
08:07.7
finance minister yung kausap niya nung bumaba siya.
08:10.8
Nagtinginan sila, then look away
08:12.3
and then nag-usap sila ni Ralph Recto
08:14.2
yata yung nasa arap, yung matanggad na
08:16.0
guy. I think that was Ralph Recto.
08:18.4
But this was pre-departure, diba?
08:20.6
So, but when Marcos
08:22.4
The day before that, diba?
08:27.9
President Duterte
08:29.6
had a press conference
08:32.5
BBM did not finish
08:36.0
college hanggang second year.
08:37.9
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.
08:40.7
Oh, ayan na naman
08:42.0
si Dugong eh. But yun nga eh.
08:45.0
I think napuno na rin.
08:47.5
Pero hindi pa parang masyadong mabait pa rin si BBM?
08:51.2
Hindi ka masyadong
08:52.2
mabait pa rin si BBM?
08:53.1
Personal relationship is no longer there
08:55.7
kung ganyan. Poison na yan eh.
08:59.6
BBM mabait pa rin kasi
09:01.0
he was asked that.
09:06.4
even if he calls me ugly,
09:08.9
I will not respond
09:11.4
because, you know,
09:12.9
sabi niya, as a lawyer, President Duterte
09:15.5
should know that ad hominem attacks
09:19.4
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
09:20.2
He explained it that way. So, sabi niya, I'm not bothered by that.
09:23.1
But of course, that's what you say publicly.
09:27.9
you now become reluctant to greet.
09:32.8
Inside, you now become reluctant
09:37.4
Hindi na katulad noon na beso-beso.
09:43.4
Do you think that
09:45.0
the natural thing for Marcos
09:47.2
is to go after Duterte's na?
09:48.8
Or he should just play it slowly and steady?
09:52.6
Is slow and steady
09:53.8
the best way forward?
09:54.7
Kasi, he can pin down the Duterte's
09:56.7
both on this issue of China,
09:58.7
but also on the issue of ICC.
10:02.8
Well, it will be a slow burn
10:05.9
kasi matagal pa naman yung
10:10.4
pressing issue is
10:12.6
what will Sara do now?
10:17.9
is strained, to say the least.
10:21.8
member of the cabinet siya.
10:27.4
How can she be...
10:28.9
How can she continue to be the alter ego
10:32.1
yung body language nila,
10:38.6
Because I've been there in my life.
10:40.1
And if the president doesn't greet you,
10:44.8
Kaya nga, one million view yung nakita ko.
10:48.0
Although, marami na galit sa akin
10:49.6
na I didn't show down the full
10:52.5
Kasi nung lumabas si Marcos,
10:55.4
May mga ganyan silang kacharot.
10:58.8
is it relevant that Sara is not saying anything
11:01.8
on the West Philippine Sea issue?
11:03.5
I mean, this is an official
11:04.5
who has time to make videos about
11:06.7
what she's eating,
11:08.1
about, I don't know,
11:08.8
her Louis Vuitton
11:11.9
This is the person who makes comments
11:13.4
on Afghan refugees
11:14.5
coming to the Philippines.
11:16.0
This is someone who has a comment
11:17.0
on Gaza and CISFAR.
11:18.6
Pero pagdating sa West Philippine Sea,
11:22.4
I mean, wala siyang comment.
11:23.3
I mean, what does this say?
11:24.4
And then, basta Duterte coming out
11:26.4
and saying something along the lines
11:27.7
of at least from what I saw.
11:30.1
naratif lang yan,
11:31.1
propaganda lang yan.
11:33.0
and then Polong coming out and saying,
11:35.3
don't demonize China.
11:36.7
I mean, what's going on here?
11:38.9
are the Dutertes coming out
11:40.5
all in guns blazing,
11:42.2
essentially saying,
11:43.1
you know, for the,
11:44.4
what's going on here?
11:51.2
The Duterte family
11:52.4
is still continuing the policy
11:56.4
So, they don't want to say
11:58.0
anything against China.
12:00.1
you don't want to say anything
12:01.3
against your master,
12:02.6
So, they don't want to say
12:03.7
anything against China.
12:05.8
Kahit na ano nang ginagawa
12:08.9
Binobomba na tayo,
12:09.9
winawaterkano na tayo.
12:11.3
They refuse to talk.
12:13.3
they pin the blame
12:14.1
on the Philippines.
12:18.0
that position already.
12:22.0
did you read the,
12:22.8
did you see the statement,
12:32.0
The president should,
12:37.5
Did you see that?
12:39.5
pinag-usapan namin
12:40.7
ni Ronald Llamas yun,
12:43.0
He lost me at Romanov.
12:46.4
mas maganding Romanov
12:47.4
kaysa Ivan Deterrible.
12:50.0
this is crazy stuff
12:51.2
we're talking about,
12:58.8
the trilateral summit.
13:00.4
for the connection,
13:01.1
it's a little bit cutting.
13:02.6
the trilateral summit.
13:04.6
kasi masestress lang tayo
13:06.6
Babalikan natin sila
13:07.8
when we talk about
13:10.4
the trilateral summit,
13:12.5
What is your read
13:13.3
of the trilateral summit,
13:18.2
in terms of the outcomes?
13:20.0
the U.S. Congress is pushing
13:21.0
for a 2.5 billion dollar
13:24.1
There's gonna be a
13:24.9
Luzon Economic Corridor.
13:26.4
Biden publicly said
13:28.4
that the mutual defense
13:29.2
treaty will apply.
13:31.0
what is your read
13:31.7
of the trilateral summit,
13:35.5
on the economic front,
13:38.7
they will provide
13:41.7
in loans and investments.
13:43.3
Nothing happened.
13:47.6
Japan and the U.S.
13:55.5
Japan will deliver
13:59.9
and they can deliver.
14:06.5
together with China
14:12.6
it's easy for them
14:19.1
semiconductor companies
14:20.7
are leaving China.
14:22.7
they can just tell them
14:24.2
in the Philippines.
14:26.9
they're in the process
14:29.8
the State Department
14:30.8
could just encourage them
14:32.8
in the Philippines.
14:33.7
it's very easy for,
14:37.4
That 100 billion figure
14:40.8
this is something big
14:43.8
generates a lot of
14:51.2
production lines,
14:53.8
it's a good thing.
15:03.4
aside from that 100 billion,
15:10.6
military assistance.
15:17.3
that is not part of the,
15:27.7
That is separate bill.
15:29.0
I think this will go,
15:30.2
it's a bipartisan bill.
15:32.2
it will go quickly
15:33.5
and it will be passed quickly.
15:38.3
Justice Carpenter,
15:39.0
I think this is where
15:39.7
we slightly diverge
15:41.7
because I think everyone
15:42.5
was worried about
15:44.8
don't worry about debt trap,
15:46.1
worry about pledge trap,
15:47.4
like empty pledges
15:48.7
and nothing comes in.
15:59.8
nung panahon ni Digong.
16:02.2
Justice Carpenter,
16:02.7
speaking of this,
16:05.8
what do you think
16:07.7
focus on in terms of
16:08.8
this defense aid?
16:09.6
Kasi the economic corridor
16:10.8
makes sense to me.
16:13.7
critical infrastructure development,
16:18.0
and climate resilience.
16:20.0
everything is there.
16:20.9
It ticks all the boxes.
16:22.2
let's just hope things will
16:23.1
trickle in over the next,
16:25.2
months and years.
16:26.5
dito sa defense aid,
16:27.9
do you think it's important
16:28.7
that U.S. finally we get
16:30.0
the multi-role vessels,
16:33.6
some of the more,
16:36.0
maybe you don't agree with me,
16:37.0
but my frustration is,
16:39.0
I look around the world,
16:42.0
hundreds of billions of aid
16:43.8
throughout the decades.
16:45.9
Egypt got close to,
16:47.4
hundred billion dollars aid
16:48.7
throughout the decades.
16:51.8
I can go on and on
16:52.6
about countries that are not
16:54.9
not even in war like Ukraine,
16:57.1
it looks like they have got
16:57.9
more solid invest,
16:59.8
defense aid from the U.S.
17:02.0
Jordanian Air Force,
17:03.3
Pakistani Air Force,
17:07.6
we can blame the Philippines.
17:09.0
Marami tayong kakulangan.
17:11.2
we were also taken for granted
17:12.4
for quite some time,
17:13.4
and perhaps now it's time
17:15.6
what is your read on this,
17:16.9
Justice Garfield?
17:17.7
I don't mind if you don't agree
17:19.8
but this is my read on this issue.
17:21.5
The measure taken for granted
17:24.1
the facts are there.
17:25.5
They got more aid,
17:26.9
military aid than us.
17:29.0
And I think the reason for that
17:31.3
these were the flash,
17:40.4
So they had to appease Pakistan
17:45.0
compete with Russia
17:46.7
in providing military aid
17:49.5
to moderate Egypt's behavior
17:54.0
Israel is another
17:54.4
completely different thing,
17:58.7
they did not see any
18:02.1
with military aid
18:04.0
I think now they realize
18:08.0
stand up to China already
18:15.9
to the Philippines.
18:19.0
I think that's why
18:21.7
they're already giving us,
18:24.0
more military aid,
18:26.2
this is now the flashpoint,
18:27.4
the new flashpoint in,
18:36.1
and I think that's,
18:38.0
why we're getting this attention already
18:39.7
because there's really trouble now
18:41.2
in the South China Sea.
18:44.6
so your argument is
18:46.0
because America's threat perceptions
18:48.2
are shifting towards China
18:50.5
and not to mention
18:51.3
the real threat of,
18:52.9
military confrontation
18:53.8
in the South China Sea
18:54.7
and West Philippine Sea.
18:55.9
It's just natural
18:57.4
to pay more attention to us.
18:58.8
But are there specific things
18:60.0
you think that we should,
19:01.6
see as part of this
19:02.7
foreign military financing?
19:04.1
I think $500 million
19:07.1
of this new package.
19:08.6
What do you want to see
19:09.5
in that $500 million?
19:15.9
we really need something
19:20.2
multi-role fighters,
19:24.8
I would like to see
19:34.0
artificial islands
19:36.3
because right now,
19:37.3
those artificial islands
19:45.5
because our air bases
19:47.8
but we have no capacity
19:51.3
without the HIMARS.
19:54.8
probably when we get
19:55.9
the BrahMos missiles,
20:04.0
within a few meters
20:05.0
so that will really
20:06.1
destroy the runway
20:18.8
why we couldn't get
20:22.9
That's a very good point.
20:23.7
That's a very good point.
20:36.2
have those missiles,
20:43.6
because they can destroy us
20:45.7
we have no defense.
20:47.1
We cannot fight back.
20:48.3
But if we can destroy them
20:50.6
the HIMARS are mobile,
20:52.1
they cannot destroy
20:53.7
then we control them.
20:57.6
That's a very good point.
21:00.5
are also involved
21:02.0
these missile defense systems
21:04.6
archipelagic defense
21:06.8
that we're adopting.
21:09.4
they match properly
21:13.2
what about Japan?
21:14.5
What do you want to see
21:19.2
will be a step too far
21:21.9
internally the Japanese
21:25.9
the pacifist party,
21:32.4
internally they don't
21:34.6
rotational access
21:36.9
self-defense forces
21:39.1
or perhaps a bit,
21:40.8
a bridge too far?
21:45.9
the Japanese public
21:47.2
will accept that already.
21:50.2
that's being discussed
21:53.5
the Japanese government
21:56.2
there will be no,
21:57.4
no strong opposition
21:58.9
from the Japanese public
22:00.9
considering what's
22:03.7
I think we will have a
22:05.0
visa enforcers agreement.
22:07.7
named differently.
22:10.9
right now we have
22:13.5
we should have one
22:20.3
I think eventually
22:23.5
something like that
22:27.3
A fantastic five situation.
22:33.0
mababash na naman tayo
22:33.9
ng mga leftist friends natin.
22:37.6
binenta naman yung bayan natin
22:42.2
Kalit lang daw tayo sa China.
22:48.2
you cannot accuse them
22:50.1
territorial ambition
22:53.5
territorial designs
22:54.4
on the Philippines
22:55.3
or maritime designs.
22:56.5
There's only one.
22:57.2
In the 21st century.
22:58.9
In the 21st century.
23:00.1
There's only one,
23:01.2
in the present century.
23:02.9
But there is only,
23:03.7
in the present century,
23:04.8
there is only one country
23:05.9
that wants our territory
23:07.1
and maritime zones.
23:13.0
China is doing it
23:14.1
because binabuli sila
23:15.1
ng American empire.
23:16.8
Dahil they're surrounded
23:17.8
by American bases.
23:19.2
Diba ganun yung line?
23:22.2
that's what they,
23:24.5
the Chinese tell me.
23:34.2
the century of humiliation.
23:41.2
why are you exacting
23:42.4
your events on us?
23:45.7
of your territory.
23:48.4
alliance of Europeans
23:55.5
in that Boxer Rebellion,
23:59.8
Western colonizers
24:03.8
more than 300 years.
24:14.8
we never occupied
24:15.8
a single square inch
24:16.8
of your territory.
24:20.8
that because they suffered
24:21.8
in the hands of the Europeans,
24:23.3
the South China Sea,
24:25.3
it doesn't compute.
24:27.3
the Atlantic Ocean.
24:33.3
They were attacked
24:38.3
Frederick the Great
24:41.3
they have to colonize
24:44.3
that kind of nonsense
24:45.3
revanchist arguments.
24:51.3
probably have more to say.
24:52.3
Because they were attacked by the Soviet Union,
24:53.3
because of the US.
24:55.3
if you had 100 years
25:00.3
Including the humiliation
25:01.3
you're visiting on us
25:03.3
It's like the Chinese
25:05.3
when we used the term bully,
25:10.3
they keep on saying,
25:11.3
we're not a bully,
25:13.3
I think they're very scared
25:15.3
as an imperialist power
25:16.3
in their own right.
25:21.3
they're seeking hegemony
25:22.3
the only one who is still expanding
25:24.1
their territory, along
25:26.3
with Russia. There are only two
25:28.2
countries now that are expanding
25:30.3
their territory, annexing
25:32.4
the territory of other countries,
25:34.5
Russia and China.
25:36.8
Baka may gentleman's
25:38.2
agreement din yung dalawa na yan.
25:42.1
baka Putin and Xi as a
25:44.0
gentleman agreement.
25:45.8
I think, you know what,
25:47.8
they had to get the territories
25:50.5
of other countries because if
25:52.1
they can't get the territories
25:53.9
of their other countries, they will get their own
25:55.9
each other's territories.
25:57.3
Yeah, Siberia is a big problem.
25:59.9
They will fight over Siberia.
26:03.6
Yeah, you're right. Actually,
26:05.3
nung nag-release ng 10-dash line ang China,
26:08.1
isa sa mga bansa na napikon
26:09.5
na hindi natin minention is Russia
26:11.1
because dun sa 10-dash line,
26:13.3
sama yung Russian territory.
26:16.9
the names of Vladivostok into
26:19.3
Chinese names. I mean, this is crazy.
26:22.1
is crazy. Of course, I find it ironic
26:24.0
because China, today's China, claims
26:25.9
to be a Han nation, and yet they're claiming
26:28.0
what was conquered by the Manchus,
26:30.0
right, which are not considered as Han, but
26:31.6
there's a long conversation. Now, going back to this,
26:34.0
what do you think we should look at
26:36.0
getting from the other
26:38.0
important partners? Sorry, acquiring.
26:40.3
I don't want to use the word getting, baka
26:41.7
mendikan tang labas. Like Japan, for instance.
26:44.4
What do you think Japan can offer? I mean, the French
26:46.1
are offering submarines. The British
26:48.9
The Japanese have always been
27:04.1
they were not allowed to sell
27:07.4
they've started to sell already
27:09.8
radars to us or give us
27:12.0
radars. So, I think
27:14.7
postcard vessels and
27:17.8
radar telecommunications
27:24.2
looking at even getting advanced fighter jets
27:26.5
from Japan or those kinds of things?
27:28.5
Because I think they just approved recently
27:30.2
export of next-generation fighters
27:32.4
in Japan. So, do you think those should be also
27:34.4
some of our targets down the road?
27:36.3
Na hindi lang tayo masasabi?
27:38.0
Well, they're... Actually, they're developing
27:40.5
a sixth generation now
27:42.6
together with UK.
27:44.0
The Italians and UK, yeah.
27:49.6
retire their F-2s, no?
27:52.1
Their copy of the
27:55.8
So, maybe they will give us
28:00.0
So, there's so much here
28:04.0
Now, Justice Carpenter, moving forward,
28:06.0
what do you think we should see
28:07.5
sa Ayungin Shoal in particular?
28:10.4
Because this looks like
28:11.2
quite a dangerous flashpoint
28:13.7
with huge, huge implications.
28:16.0
I mean, we just saw over the weekend there could
28:17.7
almost a huge war in the
28:22.1
First of all, are you worried
28:23.8
that the U.S. may be overstretched with
28:25.6
conflicts in the Middle East, conflicts in Ukraine?
28:28.1
I mean, the Middle East situation is quite
28:29.5
worrying as what we saw just over the weekend.
28:31.9
Or do you think you're confident enough
28:33.6
that the United States could still be a reliable
28:35.5
partner in this part of the world? But also,
28:37.7
what should we do? I mean, should we ask
28:39.7
Americans to join us in resupply
28:41.7
missions? Should Americans directly contribute
28:43.8
or should they just be over the horizon
28:45.5
with drones? Should they provide
28:48.6
technology to us so that we can fortify it better
28:51.9
on our own? What are we looking at here,
28:53.9
Justice Garfield, in the next steps
28:55.5
in Ayungin Shoal?
28:57.3
In Ayungin Shoal,
28:58.4
we should convert our presence there
29:01.7
from military to non-military
29:03.7
because the tribunal said
29:05.6
we cannot assume jurisdiction
29:13.4
China to stop their dangerous maneuvers
29:16.0
because these are military activities
29:17.6
and that's outside the jurisdiction.
29:19.7
So, we should convert our presence
29:21.6
to non-military. We put up a
29:23.5
lighthouse operated by
29:24.8
the post guard, that's civilian.
29:27.6
We put up a research center by
29:29.5
the UP Institute of Marine Sciences
29:31.4
and we put up there a substation
29:33.7
of post guard. They can park
29:35.6
their two small vessels so any
29:37.6
armed attack on these two
29:39.3
post guard vessels would trigger
29:41.5
the operation of the
29:45.5
Defense Treaty. Of course, China will
29:47.2
stop us from sending the construction
29:49.2
materials, but then we can go to the
29:51.6
tribunal now and this time
29:53.8
we will say this is now a civilian
29:55.4
non-military activity because we are
29:57.5
putting up this Marine Research Center,
30:01.4
and we can win another
30:03.6
award and the more awards
30:05.7
we win, the more support we will get
30:07.6
from the rest of the world.
30:11.9
right now, our Navy
30:13.7
is confident that even if it's difficult,
30:16.0
we can still supply
30:17.1
Sierra Madre, continue
30:21.6
even if we are a water
30:23.3
cannon, the world's
30:25.4
sympathy of the world will be with us
30:27.2
if we have those video footage.
30:29.6
So actually, China is
30:37.4
know what kind of steps the Navy will do.
30:39.4
Maybe they will send a more hardened
30:41.1
supply ship that can withstand
30:43.6
these water cannons.
30:47.2
eventually we have to shift to
30:49.4
a non-military presence because
30:51.6
no matter what we say,
30:53.6
even if we keep on repairing
30:55.9
Sierra Madre, it will collapse
30:57.8
one day because you can
30:59.4
repair it only up to a certain extent.
31:03.6
or something like that
31:04.8
is the way forward?
31:07.9
A lighthouse so that
31:09.7
it will become a civilian
31:10.9
activity. Do we have the technology
31:13.8
for that? Engineering technology to
31:15.4
make a lot of over...
31:17.4
This is not even a rock. I mean, this is a low-thigh
31:19.6
elevation. So should we do a reclamation?
31:21.6
Wouldn't that be...
31:22.9
We can install a lighthouse
31:27.8
of President FDR.
31:31.6
to put up lighthouses in all of these
31:35.1
these are modular, solar-powered.
31:41.6
secretary at the time opposed it because
31:43.9
he said China will
31:45.6
be angry. And that foreign
31:47.9
secretary was planning to run
31:49.8
as Secretary General of the UN.
31:51.6
And of course, China had to
31:55.0
I just have a slight
31:57.7
issue with your proposal. I completely
31:59.8
see where you're coming from, Justice.
32:03.4
The thing I say is, the US is
32:05.6
very clear that they will come to our rescue
32:07.4
kung natak yung troops natin,
32:10.0
aircrafts and vessels. So clearly,
32:11.5
this is our military. So kung tinanggal
32:13.9
mo yung military natin sa ayong inshulge,
32:15.8
wouldn't that limit America's
32:18.0
MDT commitments or allow them
32:19.7
to have more equivocation?
32:21.6
Because the US said
32:23.5
any armed attack on a
32:25.6
Philippine public vessel, and they
32:27.6
put this, including the Coast Guard.
32:30.1
So public vessel, not
32:31.6
necessarily military. That's why I said, let us put the
32:33.4
Coast Guard substation there. Good point.
32:35.7
Sorry, sorry. I didn't hear the Coast Guard part.
32:37.4
Yes, yes. Yes, Coast Guard, yes.
32:39.4
Let us put the Coast Guard vessel there, park it.
32:43.5
will be... They'll have to attack that
32:45.4
Coast Guard vessel.
32:49.0
resupply, the supply part, do you think the American
32:51.5
should be over the horizon with some
32:53.4
drones and corvettes, something like that?
32:57.4
to consider that if we
32:59.4
really cannot resupply our troops.
33:02.4
As long as we can
33:03.5
resupply our troops, even if we are
33:05.3
water cannons, we should continue because
33:07.0
we're actually getting the sympathy of the world.
33:11.1
Yeah, so in short...
33:22.8
sa sumbisayas ming
33:26.8
pananaw, sa bagong
33:30.9
bunyog, isisigaw.
