00:16.6
Kumula si Ding Dong Dantes.
00:21.2
that could energize yung
00:22.9
kapamilya voting block,
00:25.8
that would be good.
00:27.6
That would help them a lot.
00:28.6
Kailan, Ding Dong is kapuso, di ba?
00:30.6
Pero kapuso si Ding Dong, di ba?
00:36.2
Sorry, mas showbiz pala ako sa'yo eh.
00:38.2
That's Star Cinema.
00:41.4
That's Star Cinema.
00:42.3
So, pwede na rin.
00:44.3
Wala bang Viva Max na pwede magkano?
00:47.1
Wala bang Viva Max na pwede magkano?
00:50.1
Hindi lang Suicide Bomber.
00:55.8
Viva Max Party List.
00:58.6
Baka ma-disqualify yan.
01:00.2
Pagkatapos manalo, ma-disqualify yan.
01:03.3
Kahit hindi makakakompleto ng dose,
01:05.8
yung third poll na sinasabi ni Kiko,
01:14.3
Pero dapat pag pala sila,
01:15.7
mag-scale up na sila
01:16.6
dahil tahimik pa rin si Tets.
01:18.5
Ang narinig mo pa rin,
01:20.5
si Risa, si Laila,
01:22.0
hindi naman mga kandidato yun, no?
01:24.8
So, kaya hindi meron mga young ones.
01:27.9
Mga next generation.
01:28.6
Katulad like I said before nga,
01:30.3
yung anak ni Marojas.
01:34.7
Yung mga future ano net lang.
01:38.2
Linawan na nila ngayon
01:39.4
kesa makuha ng iba.
01:42.9
So, yung mga ganong klase,
01:44.4
yung mga batang mga
01:47.2
anak nung mga kapartido nila
01:51.5
they start developing them now.
01:53.8
Sino yung pangtapat natin
01:56.3
Baka pa naman eh.
01:58.6
si nang pangtapat natin
02:00.9
ni second generation.
02:04.7
Parang ano ka eh.
02:13.2
ng 9th grade pala.
02:16.2
original opposition,
02:18.9
yung case ni Kibuloy
02:20.9
is really doing a lot
02:23.7
Parang si Senator Riza is
02:25.5
yung sinasabi natin before
02:27.6
hindi siya matatagal.
02:28.6
Masyadong binabaka pa
02:31.8
With this Kibuloy case,
02:35.3
eh, I'm leading the charge.
02:37.3
Kung mga everyone
02:39.9
galit na kay Kibuloy.
02:41.3
And I could notice,
02:43.9
kahit yung mga nandun
02:45.8
o yung mga loyalista
02:46.9
o yung mga supporters
02:53.5
na helping the victims,
02:56.4
exposing yung mga ginagawa.
02:58.6
itong Kibuloy case
03:02.3
doing a lot of, ano,
03:05.3
is widening her base,
03:09.9
from the oposisyon
03:12.1
making her look like,
03:17.1
in fairness naman sa
03:22.6
nagkocombo na sila
03:23.6
kasi Vice Ganda's show
03:25.0
will be the main show
03:30.9
haters ng GMA dyan na,
03:32.4
prohibits si Ben.
03:33.4
Ano na mga sabi niya?
03:34.3
Nagkocombine forces na tayo.
03:37.5
Nagkocombine forces.
03:41.7
Have you heard that?
03:45.6
Mag-data na for Senator.
03:47.5
mag-showbiz na lang siya.
03:49.1
O, magsishowbiz na lang siya.
03:51.0
Okay, thank you very much, guys.
03:52.3
I think that perfectly
03:53.0
sets the tone for next episode.
03:55.2
Riza versus Sarah.
03:57.7
And then, of course,
03:58.6
transition tayo back, guys.
04:01.0
pag minimension ko
04:02.3
chine-change topic niyo?
04:04.3
hindi mataas ang view
04:05.7
pag ganyan ang topic.
04:07.1
Pero kailangan natin gawin
04:08.2
kasi presidente natin siya.
04:10.9
Thank you very much.
04:15.8
Let's go to ball rolling.
04:17.7
Sa previous episode,
04:18.8
pinag-usapan natin lahat.
04:20.6
Ayon kay Sir Ronald,
04:30.0
para masaya na itong
04:31.9
kasi yung teori ni Sir Ronald
04:40.0
let's talk about this
04:40.8
very good observation
04:45.1
mukhang ito na yung moment
04:46.8
ni Riza Ontiveros
04:48.3
in every sense of the word.
04:50.1
And this is where
04:51.0
we really see a direct clash
04:52.4
between Riza and Sarah.
04:53.6
We have seen this
04:54.1
building up for quite some time.
04:56.7
dun sa confidential fund issue,
04:58.6
I think Riza Ontiveros
04:59.9
was able to prove
05:00.7
her mettle of leadership.
05:03.1
dahil kay Kibuloy,
05:05.6
nag-abanggaan na talaga sila
05:07.5
directly and she's now
05:11.6
if you're gonna take a side
05:13.3
someone accused of this and that.
05:15.5
yung iba rin nagsasabi na
05:16.5
do not use your public position
05:19.7
interest posturing
05:21.8
given the close ties
05:22.8
between the two families.
05:23.6
But before we go there,
05:25.8
I wanna ask you first,
05:31.6
arrestoy na siya.
05:32.4
Parang the delaying tactics?
05:33.9
What's happening?
05:34.8
Is Zubiri waiting
05:35.7
for BBM to come back
05:37.0
before making a big decision?
05:39.1
mukhang the whole
05:39.8
show-cause-order thing
05:41.2
was probably just
05:43.5
Or give more time
05:44.1
to BBM to come back.
05:45.1
What's going on there?
05:46.8
may kinausap akong dalawang
05:50.4
dito sa hiningi ni Zubiri
05:51.8
na show-cause-order.
05:52.9
Wala naman daw ganong klase
05:54.0
sa guidelines sa Senate.
05:57.8
sinusubukan ni Zubiri
06:01.9
Nagpe-play din siya
06:02.6
sa crowd ni Kibuloy
06:04.3
na objective siya.
06:08.6
Pero at the same time,
06:18.8
binigyan lang niya
06:19.3
ng kaunting space
06:27.7
direction of the main blow,
06:42.9
kinakailangan rin niya
06:45.2
mas sisira rin siya
06:46.1
sa Senate President.
06:48.1
lahat ng mga rules,
06:49.4
kahit itong show cost
06:54.5
ay pilihagan niya
06:56.5
sa Senate President.
06:59.8
ay kinakailangan rin
07:02.4
kung maglalabas din
07:05.6
tapos mauhuli na naman
07:07.5
may competition silang dalawa.
07:12.6
kanyang traction.
07:13.6
Sabi nga ni Mark,
07:14.5
pinapanood ko yung
07:15.3
kanyang mga interviews,
07:17.0
malaki yung traction niya.
07:19.2
Itong pinakahuli,
07:20.1
kay Malumangahas.
07:22.0
binabasa ko yung mga
07:27.7
hindi naman supporter niya,
07:29.1
sinusuportahan siya ngayon.
07:32.0
traction niya rito
07:34.8
nung binanata niya
07:41.6
Ay, gulping-gulping yun.
07:43.1
Gulping-gulping sila
07:45.0
tsaka sila Aimee,
07:48.7
et cetera, et cetera.
07:57.1
binabasto siya, eh,
07:58.4
sa mga rally, eh.
07:59.7
Tinatawag siya ng
08:00.9
tinatawag siya ng
08:04.0
sa general public,
08:06.9
kay Sen. Riza yun, eh.
08:08.8
parang itong mga ito,
08:10.6
itong crowd na ito,
08:13.3
parang hindi naman sila
08:18.9
at yung hamon niya
08:20.5
kay Vice President
08:22.9
value added din yung
08:25.6
kay Vice President
08:29.6
baka nga mangyari dito
08:34.1
parang ito yung kanyang,
08:36.8
nung kanyang confidential
08:37.9
at saka intelligence fund.
08:39.5
Paano nagulpi siya roon, eh?
08:41.6
magulpi rin siya dyan, eh.
08:45.5
ang babalat sa'yo,
08:46.8
hindi lamang yung mga,
08:48.8
hindi lamang yung mga pink,
08:50.5
hindi lamang yung mga undecided,
08:52.4
kundi pati yung mga BBM,
08:56.8
Sabi nga ni Kwan,
08:58.6
playing to the crowd,
09:00.7
yung crowd sa'yo na yan, eh.
09:02.4
Hindi na matatagdagan
09:03.2
ang ratings mo dyan, eh.
09:04.5
ang dapat matatagdagan
09:07.1
yung hint diba sa'yo.
09:10.7
ng supporta niya kay Buloy,
09:12.5
at pagpunta niya sa rally,
09:14.0
wala siyang nakuhang dagdag.
09:16.0
Bawas pa nga, eh.
09:18.6
how can you say that?
09:19.7
She's still the most popular
09:22.8
basis sa mga surveys
09:25.2
it doesn't look like
09:25.9
the confidential fund,
09:26.8
affected very much.
09:29.2
where I see she was affected is,
09:31.4
hindi na siya number one
09:35.8
tingin ko affected siya
09:39.1
from where she came from,
09:42.6
kahit by increments,
09:44.3
bumaba naman siya.
09:46.4
yung binanggit mo nga,
09:49.0
lamang na sa kanya si Rafi Tulfo
09:50.5
na hindi before nangyari.
09:53.1
tingin ko yung mga increments na yan,
09:57.6
Parang boxing, eh.
09:58.6
Cumulative, yeah.
10:00.1
In the next few surveys,
10:03.6
might show a trend.
10:05.2
Might show a trend.
10:07.4
Pero kung yung movement of numbers mo
10:10.8
two or three surveys,
10:12.8
Kahit yan ay hindi dramatic,
10:18.6
paglampas sa kanya ni
10:21.2
even in Mindanao.
10:22.9
Hindi lang yun na nationwide,
10:24.0
even in Mindanao.
10:26.8
tinatamaan siya kahit papano.
10:29.0
ang tinitignan ko lagi,
10:30.2
hindi yung absolute numbers.
10:32.3
The movement of numbers.
10:34.6
But her numbers went up last year,
10:39.3
I already anticipate,
10:40.3
at least one area we see her sliding down is,
10:43.0
hindi na siya a clear frontrunner.
10:44.9
Mukhang Rafi Tulfo has taken over.
10:46.5
I'll get back to you on this Sara issue
10:48.0
because my sense is,
10:49.3
this is also existential to them.
10:51.1
It's not just about her numbers and popularity.
10:58.0
in this whole drama?
10:58.9
Because he's also part of that committee,
11:01.0
And you would expect normally,
11:02.2
Rafi Tulfo would be there
11:07.9
he just voted quietly in favor,
11:10.7
you would have expected him to come out guns blazing.
11:12.9
considering his brand,
11:16.0
He's trying to stay away from
11:18.1
yung awayan ng Marcos at Duterte.
11:22.0
kung strategy wise,
11:23.1
that's the right strategy to do it.
11:25.5
you don't need to immerse yourself,
11:27.3
you don't need to pick a side right now.
11:29.3
Hindi mo kailangang magulo dyan sa ano.
11:33.7
he was involved dun sa,
11:35.9
nilabas niya yung sa Lotto,
11:39.1
yung 20 times na nalang.
11:44.4
yun yung mga nilabas niya this week
11:48.8
sinasadyang mag-stay away
11:55.0
hindi niya makukulong,
11:55.5
nakuha yung galit.
11:56.5
Alam niya mainit pareho
11:57.6
and it wouldn't help him
12:00.0
kung makisama siya.
12:01.0
but still the limelight also from Riza.
12:03.6
this is Riza's hard work, right?
12:05.5
Maybe it's also that eh,
12:06.8
na hindi lang opportunistically,
12:08.3
ayaw ko matamaan ng ano.
12:12.1
ayaw ko maki ano dyan,
12:13.0
maki eh pala dyan.
12:13.9
Siguro it's also that,
12:16.3
I guess hindi siya tinatanong eh.
12:19.9
napanood ko sa Senator Nancy,
12:24.1
kasi ano lang eh,
12:25.0
usually kung sino yung head ng committee,
12:27.9
we respect kung ano yung
12:30.8
Merong tradition na gano'n yung Senate.
12:32.7
yun naman yung ano nila,
12:33.7
yun naman yung reason nila doon,
12:37.2
Except kung ikaw ay Robin Hood Padilla.
12:39.6
Except kung ikaw si Robin Hood Padilla.
12:41.3
nung tala nung si Grace po,
12:43.2
in-emphasize din niya yung pag-support
12:45.3
kay Senator Riza.
12:46.9
Pero hindi na sila nag-grandstanding
12:54.0
that's the point exactly.
13:00.0
mga dalawa na yan dito
13:02.3
sa mga followers natin.
13:03.2
Isa na nagpagdala doon sa ano.
13:10.1
the five who voted
13:12.1
the five who voted
13:15.3
si Senator Bongo,
13:17.8
si yung dalawang pilyar,
13:19.9
who's the other one?
13:22.9
nakakalimutan niya.
13:24.0
Nakakalimutan niya na si Aimee.
13:28.2
I saw what you did there, Mark.
13:29.7
I saw what you did there.
13:30.6
Nakakalimutan ko lang.
13:32.2
Yung boto na nagmamarke.
13:34.9
people will remember this vote, eh.
13:37.6
come election time,
13:40.0
hindi to basta-basta boto lang,
13:43.8
People will remember.
13:44.7
Ikaw yung bumoto na
13:45.7
hindi ipatawag si Kibuloy.
13:48.2
Pero pag ibang tao,
13:49.6
kapag ordinaryong Pilipino,
13:51.3
pag pinatawag nyo,
13:52.7
kailangan umatend.
13:54.5
Si Senator Robin,
14:05.3
nagmamarke talaga sa tao
14:07.1
yung naging boto nila dito
14:11.6
medyo tahimik siya.
14:13.8
sumunod siya sa nanay niya.
14:16.0
Kasi nanay niya kahit tahimik,
14:19.1
hindi siya nagsalita.
14:22.7
pag nagmarka yan,
14:28.6
sinisingil pa rin siya
14:29.6
dun sa 45 minutes
14:31.6
anywhere in Manila.
14:33.1
meron siyang ganun dati.
14:36.4
Grabe yung traffic,
14:37.5
nagpasalitan na rin
14:39.8
I wanna ask both of you guys.
14:46.1
Sarah could always argue,
14:47.2
mataas ng popularity ko,
14:48.3
I can do whatever I want.
14:54.3
and put the full force
15:02.0
saan na papunta ito.
15:03.4
sobrang ano na eh.
15:06.3
at least nung lumabas si Robin
15:08.7
maybe may konting chance pa.
15:10.5
it's more or less clear.
15:12.8
why do you think Sarah
15:13.7
would make that risk?
15:14.6
you kind of touch on this
15:16.0
in the previous episode
15:19.4
Sarah is generally
15:20.6
strategic ambiguity,
15:22.3
may paka-neutral.
15:24.5
she put the Bully Pulpit
15:26.3
So she makes herself
15:27.1
a direct target of Risa
15:28.4
and all the potential rivals,
15:31.7
this is an existential issue
15:35.4
Stand up and be counted
15:36.3
moment na kasi eh.
15:38.3
sinisigil na sila
15:40.4
nung nagsimula itong
15:42.3
issue kay Kiboloy,
15:44.0
hindi sila masyado
15:46.4
sinisigil na sila eh.
15:47.8
ang tagal nilang magkakasama,
15:49.0
halos lumalaki mga bata yan eh.
15:50.9
Kiboloy na yung mga yan eh.
15:54.4
naging administrator na ngayon
15:58.6
stand up and be counted na eh.
16:00.7
Wala bang compromise?
16:01.9
Siguro may compromise?
16:03.1
Baka may compromise yan.
16:06.5
sabi nga nung isang
16:07.4
hardinero na nakita daw sila
16:09.2
na kumukuha ng mga barel.
16:15.0
it could be a lot of factors na eh.
16:20.9
ayoko mapahamak dito.
16:24.7
hindi ko kinakailangan
16:25.4
pumunta sa rally.
16:26.9
Hindi ko kinakailangan
16:27.7
maglabas ng public
16:31.4
ninegotiate niya.
16:35.7
existential yung issue.
16:37.7
bakit dadagdagan niya?
16:39.8
Dadagdagan niya yung
16:40.6
threat sa kanyang existence.
16:44.3
ipinaliwanag yun eh.
16:48.1
yung mga pa na lang,
16:49.1
yung mga senador na lang
16:52.7
at saka si Pulong.
16:54.6
kinakailangan ko ng
16:57.1
Kinakailangan ko ng
16:57.9
counting deniability.
17:01.1
Paano papaliwanag
17:03.5
Paano mo ipapaliwanag
17:05.8
Napaka uncomfortable niya
17:07.3
pagdalo niya sa cabinet
17:13.6
ng mga detractors mo
17:14.9
o ng mga critics mo.
17:17.4
paano mo sasagutin si Risa?
17:21.4
Yeah, she's very open to that.
17:22.8
And how do you see this?
17:26.7
E paano kung makonvict
17:33.7
Tapos ang kaso is
17:34.3
human trafficking
17:35.9
not only of women,
17:37.4
human trafficking
17:40.3
Tapos ikaw ang head
17:47.8
ng iyong approval rating
17:49.4
than yung increments
17:51.8
Yan yung magiging problema mo.
17:54.1
it's not a vacuum.
17:55.8
Bagbanatang ka na lahat.
18:00.4
dahil yan ay magiging
18:02.4
after the midterms
18:05.4
So, he will choose
18:07.6
At para hindi siya
18:16.7
O, medyo calculated.
18:18.7
Medyo nagpipay-off
18:19.7
yung kanyang calculation.
18:20.5
Dahil tumataas siya
18:26.1
ng lahat ng mga kanyon.
18:29.5
dun sa lower house
18:30.3
kasi all of what we discussed
18:32.1
was more of what's happening
18:33.2
in the Senate, no?
18:34.2
Pero sa lower house din
18:37.7
Si Garine is coming out.
18:39.7
Congresswoman from
18:42.8
SM&I's franchise.
18:44.0
Mukhang it's about time.
18:45.2
Ang hindi ko masabi
18:48.8
yung franchise ba
18:51.4
Baka mukhang nag-raise
18:52.3
or ita-timing ba nila yan?
18:53.7
Anong basa mo dun
18:54.5
sa nangyari sa baba
18:56.2
Because usually, you know,
18:57.6
who takes the lead
18:59.0
But ito, grabe, no?
19:00.9
is also taking the lead
19:03.7
Oo, yun na nga eh.
19:06.6
parang pressure din
19:08.2
sa Senate, di ba?
19:22.1
sino yung mas mabilis
19:23.8
sino yung mas mabilis
19:26.0
pagdating nga sa SMN
19:29.6
dito sa franchise
19:31.7
Mukhang wala na talagang
19:34.9
parang wala silang kakampi eh.
19:36.3
Hindi ko nga maitindihan
19:38.1
yung mga Congressman nila
19:41.9
may tatlo sila doon eh,
19:43.0
na under kay Duterte.
19:44.8
hindi sila masyadong
19:49.3
Congressman yan from Davao.
20:00.2
hindi sila maka ano eh.
20:04.1
kasi go to the midterms,
20:05.5
filing na sa October,
20:07.2
Kailangan mo all the resources,
20:09.7
Kailangan mo all the influence
20:12.8
ang Diyos sa house
20:16.1
Kaya yung pigilin ng Speaker,
20:18.8
grasya na pwede bumunta sa'yo.
20:21.8
Kaya pahimik lang eh.
20:23.2
Kaya hindi din sila,
20:24.4
hindi din sila maka,
20:25.2
walang kakampi eh.
20:26.4
Ganon yung nangyayari eh.
20:28.9
yun lang ang iyong pag,
20:31.0
Yung presidente ng PDP laban eh.
20:33.0
Si Congressman Pepito Alvarez eh.
20:35.2
nag-speak sa Speaker eh.
20:38.2
Hindi sila maka ano lahat eh.
20:39.7
Maka formal lahat eh.
20:40.9
At hindi ko nga mag-gets dito
20:45.4
kailangang isama si Sara
20:47.9
na knowing na this can affect
20:49.9
yung kanyang future chances,
20:51.2
eh siya na nga lang
20:51.8
ang pinakapag-asa ninyo.
20:53.0
Oo, yun nga lang yung ano niya eh.
20:55.7
Oo eh, yun yung main ano niya eh.
20:58.4
Why drag her down, no?
21:00.9
Wala man lang practical sense eh, no?
21:04.4
it won't add anything now eh.
21:06.1
Nandoon na si Digong eh.
21:07.5
Bumunta na si Digong, di ba?
21:10.8
they should have left Sara
21:12.3
out of this issue para
21:13.6
she doesn't have to answer eh.
21:16.4
Hindi na niya kailangang sagutin
21:17.9
detractors and mga,
21:19.9
which this would affect
21:20.9
yung kanyang run for 2028.
21:24.8
baka nagiging desperate na din siguro
21:29.1
Yun nga, like sinabi nyo.
21:30.3
That's the only way I can see it.
21:31.9
Thank you for saying that, Mark.
21:35.7
a psychological barrier
21:37.1
or also political precedence, di ba?
21:39.1
If Kibolo is brought down,
21:41.4
then that makes the idea of ICC
21:43.8
and bringing down Duterte
21:45.8
and all of that much more,
21:46.9
you know, palatable, right?
21:50.1
I mean, if Kibolo goes from
21:52.8
to suddenly ganyan,
22:02.4
sense of impunity, di ba, Ronald?
22:06.5
I mean, that would be a sense of him
22:08.9
getting arrested or fugitive,
22:12.0
Pero kung ito kaya Kibolo,
22:13.4
may pagka-inevitableness.
22:21.6
may position pa si,
22:22.8
may position pa si Presidente
22:25.1
na hindi ko nakilala
22:27.3
yung jurisdiction.
22:28.7
meron pang kaunting possibility
22:30.1
na hindi pa pa-submit, no?
22:33.9
Kahit hindi binabawi ni Bongbong
22:36.4
yung kanyang sinabi
22:37.3
na pwede silang pumasok
22:39.3
kahit di pa niya binabawi,
22:41.6
about jurisdiction ng ICC.
22:46.4
pinagdidikit nila ngayon
22:47.2
yung Kibolo issue
22:48.7
at saka yung issue ng Duterte,
22:51.7
hindi nila binibigyan
22:52.8
ng breathing space
22:55.8
si Presidente, no?
22:57.1
Hindi na siya magnunubans.
22:59.5
diretso yung tira
23:03.2
na devil worshippers,
23:09.3
QAnon level na ito.
23:13.2
yung balat ni Kibolo,
23:14.1
didikit na ngayon
23:17.9
Eh, wala ko nakikita
23:19.2
yung tactical gain for them.
23:21.4
Ang isa ko pa rin
23:23.0
yung isip Richard, ah,
23:24.7
na naisip ko lang din
23:25.6
noong isang araw,
23:27.9
sino ang magmamana
23:34.6
na ipagiganti nyo ko
23:36.3
o gamitin nyo yung...
23:44.8
na ginugroom niya,
23:47.1
Kasi, Kibolo, eh,
23:48.3
kahit na magaling po
23:49.3
mag-basketball yan,
23:51.0
medyo advanced age na din
23:54.2
so, yun ang iniisip ko
23:55.5
kung saan mapupunta
23:58.0
Ayan, si administrator.
23:59.6
Si administrator.
24:03.0
Yung kingdom na namin.
24:03.8
Kingdom na administrator, eh.
24:08.5
Is there a chance...
24:09.8
Is there a scenario
24:11.7
that the Dutertes
24:16.2
Magkakaroon ng pastor Duterte.
24:18.8
Someone from the Duterte
24:20.5
Kasi walang, walang clear
24:25.1
itong si Kibolo, eh.
24:28.6
religions na meron tayo
24:30.4
local dito sa bansa,
24:33.1
Hindi ako magugulat,
24:33.3
hindi ako magugulat
24:34.9
na may mga ganong
24:35.7
klaseng arrangement, no?
24:37.0
Kahit hindi, halimbawa,
24:38.8
naging administrator
24:40.9
Dahil mismo si Digong
24:41.7
inaamin niya, eh.
24:43.9
Pag may binibiling bahay
24:49.7
Pag may binibiling kotse,
24:51.6
para ting isa sila.
24:52.9
No? Etcetera, etcetera.
24:55.0
I can see where this example...
24:57.5
Stop, stop, stop!
25:02.8
Hindi ako magugulat
25:06.2
o yung mga properties
25:08.7
at the very minimum,
25:10.7
baka meron doong, ah,
25:12.4
meron doong mga kasulatan.
25:13.9
Konjugal, konjugal.
25:15.3
Baka may gastation.
25:16.1
Baka may gastation.
25:17.7
Hindi ko pa binabanggit.
25:18.8
Hindi ko pa binabanggit.
25:19.6
Ano ang succession plan, eh.
25:21.9
Hindi ko pa binabanggit
25:22.9
yung mga thought bubbles
25:28.1
tapos Sarah ba yung susunod?
25:29.7
Will we see a Pastor Sarah
25:32.6
Na head of KOG's...
25:34.3
Baka pag di na sila
25:36.1
may ano sila, diba?
25:37.3
There's always a plan B.
25:38.7
The religion is very powerful pa rin.
25:41.1
Very good question.
25:42.7
napaisip ako doon, ah.
25:44.3
That's a good question.
25:47.2
Paano yung succession plan?
25:48.8
And is that involved dito sa ano?
25:51.3
Kung maga may kasama ba yung factor
25:52.9
sa nangyayari dito,
25:54.3
na they are defending,
25:56.7
kasi yun ang isang posibleng, ano,
25:59.5
posibleng dagdag dyan, eh.
26:01.2
May isa pa akong sasabihin din
26:03.0
doon sa Congress.
26:04.2
Parang sinabi nila na
26:05.3
hindi pa naman pala si Duterte
26:06.8
yung administrator.
26:10.9
I think, minister yun,
26:17.1
is not able to perform his function,
26:20.6
doon palang makikikikin
26:21.9
na si Duterte yung administrator.
26:24.2
So, parang kinaro nilang gano'n, eh.
26:26.0
Kasi parang hindi pa nila nare-report, eh.
26:29.5
mag-technical sila.
26:31.3
Contingency lang po sakali.
26:34.8
baka si Duterte na din talaga
26:35.9
nagpapatakbo, diba?
26:37.0
Hindi natin alam.
26:39.3
if that's the plan,
26:40.5
eh di gusto nila ma-arrest na
26:42.5
para makuha nila.
26:46.1
you think the other side
26:47.8
wouldn't think that too?
26:49.6
my plan B yung plan B.
26:52.9
baka kunyari lang yung drama nila,
26:59.7
I-intriga ka talaga, Richard.
27:02.9
I don't agree with your thought, Pavel.
27:07.3
or what is left of SMNI.
27:09.3
Kasi kahit na walang franchise, eh,
27:11.0
that is still strong
27:16.1
kaya rin sila kahit pa paano.
27:21.5
when we see in the future,
27:22.9
the Duterte's taking over.
27:24.5
Pero usually, Mark,
27:26.1
yung all-powerful leader,
27:28.2
pag siya ay nag-unravelled,
27:30.0
fragmentation yan, eh.
27:31.3
Kanya-kanyang agawan yan, eh.
27:35.3
Yan yung problema niya.
27:37.9
Dahil absolute yung kanyang power,
27:39.7
na wala yung absolute,
27:40.7
pag yung absolute,
27:42.8
Fragmentation yan.
27:43.2
Pero andun naman si absolute digong.
27:48.0
Tama rin sinabi ni Mark, eh.
27:49.6
But it's not also getting younger, eh.
27:52.0
If it were another person,
27:56.8
baka they won't be able to...
27:58.3
Walang cult of personality, eh.
28:01.5
Na meron si digong
28:03.0
at namamanan ni Sarah.
28:05.9
So, baka yun yung ano, eh.
28:07.2
Kailangan mo nung cult of personality na ano, eh.
28:13.7
Digong also has that.
28:16.1
Hindi mo sinasabi na ano.
28:17.7
Sinasabi mo lang cult of personality.
28:19.7
Hindi mo sinasabi na ano.
28:21.4
Pero parang walang,
28:25.3
wala sa DNA ni digong
28:27.5
yung pagiging religious, eh.
28:33.5
Siya na mismo yung ano.
28:35.7
Diretso na sa kanya.
28:41.7
appointed son of God?
28:45.5
na hindi naman na
28:46.6
gano'ng ka-articulate,
28:47.8
hindi gano'ng ka-spontaneous?
28:49.5
Medyo mahihirapan sila,
28:53.4
ano, si Harry na lang
28:56.8
you know, parang,
28:57.5
oh, Stalinist style,
29:00.2
maglalaban sila ni Kwan,
29:02.2
They don't like each other, eh.
29:03.4
Ay, oo, yun lang.
29:06.3
separate episode dyan.
29:10.5
now, medyo tama na yan,
29:14.0
pag-usapan naman natin
29:15.1
yung paboritong presidente
29:21.8
this supposed secret deal
29:26.7
ay, wala akong alam dyan,
29:28.2
Gumanan si Erwin Tulfo.
29:29.3
Pag-usapan natin yan,
29:30.3
what is this secret deal
29:34.0
supposedly all about?
29:38.7
O, hindi yung T na
29:39.5
isa-isang T, ano?
29:40.4
Okay, pag-usapan natin yan, guys.
29:42.2
Thank you very much.
29:52.8
Pag-usapan natin.
29:54.6
Daming marites kanina
29:55.9
kung ano-anong tinatanong
29:56.9
sa succession plan.
30:00.5
bang Netflix lang tayo,
30:01.7
naging succession ng HBO to
30:04.9
O, baka, ano tayo,
30:06.1
tama na yung intriga niyan.
30:07.4
Pag-usapan natin, guys,
30:09.3
So, just the other day,
30:10.9
China claimed that,
30:14.8
na hindi si Arap,
30:16.9
na hindi si Arroyo,
30:18.1
obviously, hindi si Aquino.
30:20.6
yung Duterte administration daw,
30:22.5
yung na-imply nila
30:25.3
may gentleman's agreement daw
30:27.7
na itong ayung insyo
30:29.5
ay hindi fortifying ng Pilipinas.
30:32.6
hintayin na lang nila
30:33.5
hanggang gigiba na yan
30:36.8
the elements of nature, no?
30:39.7
obviously, this has
30:40.7
enraged the Department of Foreign Affairs.
30:44.0
in the Department of Foreign Affairs,
30:45.0
if ever there was any negotiations
30:46.5
done in confidentiality,
30:47.9
you cannot bring it out.
30:49.4
And just to be clear,
30:50.8
even if China made those suggestions,
30:52.8
never kami nag-agree.
30:53.8
So, I don't know kung baka.
30:55.0
So, naghugas kamay na rin
30:57.1
they're not denying
30:58.7
China made some dodgy
31:01.4
but they're saying clearly
31:02.2
they did not agree to anything
31:03.5
that goes against
31:04.3
the Philippine national interest.
31:05.7
Ronald, anong basa mo dito?
31:07.5
even the Tulfos, right?
31:09.9
who's now the frontrunner
31:10.8
to be next senator,
31:12.1
clearly refused to come
31:13.1
to defense of the government.
31:14.5
wala akong alam dyan.
31:15.4
Hindi rin alam ni BBM yan.
31:17.3
Tanungin niya lang siya.
31:20.2
to the other side.
31:22.8
mukhang malinaw na
31:24.5
kung sino yung sinasabi
31:27.8
gentleman's agreement
31:29.0
o may oral agreement
31:30.4
tungkol dito sa Ayungin.
31:35.3
hindi naman pwedeng
31:40.8
At dahil siya yung
31:44.5
di rin naman si BBM.
31:49.9
President Duterte,
31:52.5
ex-President Duterte.
31:54.6
ay tama naman yung
32:02.7
Dahil wala namang
32:04.3
gentleman's agreement.
32:06.4
walang kasulatan.
32:16.2
malinaw yung sabi
32:19.5
hindi kami papasok
33:13.0
Hindi nabilagan yung pangalan. Doon lang simula yan sa Manila Times. Kaya hindi ko alam kung ano yung panitong article ni Barona. Siyempre mag-i-inbox si Barona ng kwal.
33:29.5
Ikaw Mark, hindi ka ba nagtataka? Parang nilalaglag ng China CD.
33:33.4
Wala namang anything na written or pinirma. It's not even binding. Kasi pwede naman silang mag-invento out of thin air na may agreement na ganito, may agreement na ganon.
33:47.4
Pero yun nga, nakakapagtaka nga bakit nila. Siguro they don't care naman siguro. Sinabi sa amin yan yung ano eh.
33:57.6
But Mark, they could have said that last year pa. Kaya nga napasagot si Jingoy, si Arroyo.
34:03.4
So hindi nila nilaglag si Digong. This time nilaglag na talaga niya. Hindi, si Digong nagsabi.
34:10.2
Medyo complicated na situation yan. Umawal ang pakialam.
34:14.0
Yung nga Mark, isang tatanong ko sa iyo eh. Dito sa pag-tumbling na naman ni Digong, yung pagpunta niya dito sa Kibuloy Rally at pag-banlat niya na uli kay BBM,
34:26.3
kamusta yung mga vloggers? Di ba sila litong-lito na?
34:30.6
Laglagan na eh. Laglagan.
34:32.1
Ano yung narrative nila?
34:35.2
Oo. Malinaw na ngayon yung hatian. Kung mga a few months ago, hindi pa nakakapili yung iba, ngayon pumili na. Titirahan na parehong sides. Ang gulo nga eh.
34:48.6
Para? Ang gulo nga eh.
34:50.7
Nag-arok sa hand-balance eh. Bayaran ka. Bayaran ka.
34:53.4
Pero Mark, kahit pagpalagin na natin, yung nakaposisyon na kayo ng Digong, di ba sila nalilito sa pag-tumbling-tumbling niya Digong?
35:02.1
Ano yun eh? Party daw yung ano eh, ng kanyang pagiging master strategist.
35:07.2
Ayan na naman tayo sa Sanjo.
35:09.1
Ano yung magaling?
35:12.1
Lahat. If there's one thing na, di ba, we could learn from Digong and Donald Trump and yung mga iba.
35:20.1
Galing daw ni Mark ah. May mga comments na dyan. Tumantuan mga tao sa interventions mo ngayon, Mark ah.
35:26.4
Mga ganda yung mga...
35:28.4
Lahat kayang spin. Yun naman yun eh.
35:32.1
Ayan, konting flip-flop lang. Lahat-lahat kayang spin and...
35:37.2
Para Richard, si Trump, paano? Nagkaroon ng, kung ano eh, bicameral agreement laban sa TikTok.
35:46.5
Republicans at saka, at saka...
35:48.5
Siya lang pro-TikTok.
35:49.8
Biglang kinontrol ni Trump.
35:51.3
Siya lang pro-TikTok. Siya lang pro-TikTok.
35:54.0
Oo, Mark, okay ka rin dyan.
35:56.0
Nagkagulo yung Republican.
36:02.1
Doon siya nananalo eh.
36:03.8
Tapos, ano eh, yun nga ang kontrolado ng...
36:07.1
Doon siya sa TikTok siya malakas eh.
36:10.6
Tapos, napanggaling na before a general election.
36:13.3
So, malang-mala talaga kay Digong, di ba?
36:16.5
Sino bang mala si Digong? Kay Trump?
36:18.9
It's the same playbook eh.
36:20.3
It's the same playbook eh.
36:22.2
Kaya, isipin mo yung what happened noong January 6, di ba?
36:27.0
If you could spin that, di ba?
36:28.5
You can spin anything.
36:32.1
Doon nga yung problema eh.
36:34.8
They never go wrong, di ba?
36:36.5
Parati there's...
36:37.3
No, there's a strategy.
36:39.2
Ganun ang mga kulto, di ba?
36:40.6
The master is never wrong.
36:42.5
There's always something hidden.
36:43.9
There's something, you know, their layer.
36:45.6
They're never wrong.
36:46.4
So, bahala sila sa buhay nila dyan.
36:47.9
So, pwede tayo magtayo ng kulto para sa'yo, Richard?
36:55.3
Mark, tanong kita, Mark.
36:58.3
Para kanina mong pa ako pinapamak sa Ronald.
37:02.1
Parating na, yung ano mo.
37:05.0
Wait, guys, suggestion.
37:07.0
Iniwanan mo kami sa salt mines ni Mark, eh.
37:09.5
Suggestion ko, si Mark, dahil makulit.
37:11.5
Oye, Mark, next, inisi ko gawa din tayo ng mga ano natin,
37:14.3
yung in-person natin.
37:15.3
Gawin natin outdoor.
37:16.5
Parang tagay tayo, mga ganun.
37:18.6
No, maganda yung companion style na Joe Rogan 4, yung mga ganyan.
37:23.0
Gawin natin, kristan.
37:24.4
Sama natin yung mga vloggers yan.
37:25.9
Pwede natin magsama.
37:29.6
Okay, game ako doon.
37:30.5
Let's do more of that.
37:32.1
Okay, so, just to end on this episode, Ronald,
37:36.0
do you think that, kasi ganito, di ba,
37:40.4
each of these issues, may malulusutan ni Digong, eh.
37:45.1
Whether it's the ICC issue, whether it's the China issue,
37:48.4
whether it's the Kiboloy angle,
37:49.4
but don't you think, cumulatively,
37:51.2
if all of these things come together,
37:52.5
magka-perfect storm yan?
37:54.0
I'm gonna use the word.
37:55.2
Don't you think there could be a perfect storm situation
37:57.6
laban kay Digong, when all of these things align?
38:02.1
Di ba kasi nung presidente siya,
38:03.4
na nag-hahataw siya ng 91 to 93 percent approval rating.
38:08.4
Ngayon, mataas pa rin siya,
38:10.1
pero it's less than 50 percent.
38:11.9
At saka wala na yung kapangyarihan ng presidency.
38:15.2
Kaya kung yung kanyang asta,
38:17.1
ay astang presidente na 93 percent ang approval rating,
38:21.4
eh, baka nagkakamali siya.
38:23.5
At ikalawa, dahil hindi na siya intatakbo,
38:26.2
yung anak na niya at mga anak niya,
38:28.3
eh, yung negative impact sa kanya
38:32.0
Dadaus sa kanyang anak.
38:33.2
Dapat i-calculate yung maigi yun.
38:35.5
Kailangan niya mas maging circumspect,
38:38.0
kahit wala sa vocabolaryo niya
38:39.7
yung pagiging circumspect.
38:41.4
Dahil ang nakasala ngayon ay si Sarah.
38:44.5
Or yung iba pa niya mga anak.
38:46.9
Kaya we said, basta is plan B now.
38:48.9
So it looks like they're getting a little bit reckless
38:51.0
because they think they have a plan B.
38:53.1
Pero itong kanyang mga atake
38:55.3
at yung kanyang kondukta,
38:57.1
halimbawa sa pagiging pro-China,
38:59.3
siya pwede siya makalusot yan
39:01.1
kung siya ay president.
39:02.9
hindi makakalusot si Sarah dyan.
39:06.0
didikit sa kanya yung pagiging pro-China,
39:08.4
didikit siya ang kibaste.
39:09.8
Yung pagiging pro-Kibuloy,
39:11.5
didikit sa kanila.
39:13.4
kanyang kabawasan sa kanila.
39:15.1
Kabawasan sa kanila yan.
39:16.2
Iba yung pagiging teflon.
39:17.5
May cost. May cost talaga.
39:19.5
Iba yung pagiging teflon ni Digong
39:21.1
when he was the president
39:24.1
at 91 to 93 percent approval rating.
39:27.7
Kaya yun yung kaibahan dito
39:30.1
So yung quotient of vulnerability
39:31.9
nila is increasing by the moment, right?
39:33.7
With all of these elements
39:35.1
and things coming together.
39:36.1
I think yun yung essentially
39:37.8
Kasi dati teflon eh.
39:38.8
Wala siyang all this vulnerability.
39:40.8
But now all of these elements
39:41.9
are coming together.
39:43.7
Ikaw, last point.
39:45.9
Mark, before we go to
39:47.2
the penultimate episode.
39:50.1
What is happening online
39:51.8
in terms of itong China angle?
39:53.5
May mga tridor si ganyan,
39:55.8
May mga ganyan bang
39:56.5
nangyayari online?
39:58.8
Considering most Filipinos
40:00.0
are anti-China, right?
40:04.1
ang lakas ng hatak eh
40:05.6
yung anti-China kind of...
40:06.8
Hindi pa sumasabog
40:07.7
yung issue na yan actually.
40:11.4
hindi ko siya natatakal masyado eh.
40:13.2
Pero good point nga.
40:14.9
Hindi pa siya sumasabog masyado.
40:19.5
bakit nga ba hindi?
40:22.4
Siguro in the coming days,
40:23.6
pag mas umingay yan,
40:24.8
pag may nag-question dyan
40:26.2
or pag may nag-ano dyan,
40:27.4
baka mas umingay.
40:29.9
Hindi pa talaga eh.
40:31.9
yung sa many Pinoy's talaga,
40:35.1
talagang naiinis dito sa ginagawa ng China.
40:38.6
Yan talaga yung issue na hindi nila mapanalo.
40:41.5
makikita mo pa lahat ng mga crimes
40:43.6
na nangyayari dito sa mga Pogo.
40:48.7
Di ba nangyayari doon sa loob
40:50.1
ng mga malalaking Pogo compounds na yan?
40:53.4
Lumalabas na lahat eh.
40:54.5
Lumalabas na lahat.
40:57.0
kung baga yung anger ng Pinoy
40:59.2
doon sa mga pang-aabuso
41:00.5
ng itong neighbor natin,
41:01.9
will only raise yung ating galit
41:06.8
Last point, Ronald.
41:07.7
Do you think that Riza should also reach out
41:09.8
to some of these people,
41:11.9
or other representatives,
41:14.1
who may not necessarily be progressive
41:15.8
or from opposition
41:16.8
or with questionable back?
41:18.1
I'm not talking about Garin.
41:18.8
I'm talking about the other ones.
41:20.2
Do you think there should be that kind of
41:22.0
bicameral coordination
41:24.2
or something like that
41:25.1
to bring this thing together,
41:27.3
to close the chapter?
41:30.3
Tingin ko ginagawa naman yan.
41:31.9
Hindi lang yan pinag-uusapan,
41:35.1
pero ginagawa yan.
41:38.8
so this closes this latest episode
41:40.8
and next episode,
41:41.5
pag-usapan natin very shortly.
41:43.5
Medyo pasyal-pasyal
41:44.4
ni BBM International,
41:45.7
but more importantly,
41:46.9
itong plano for another convoy,
41:50.0
civilian convoy sa West Philippine Sea
41:51.7
because after all,
41:52.7
we don't want to leave matters
41:53.9
of national interest
41:54.9
only to politikos.
41:56.3
People also have to be involved in this.
41:58.0
Maraming salamat, gentlemen,
41:59.1
for the fantastic discussion.
42:01.9
Okay, ito na, ito na.
42:05.1
Okay, ito, ito, ito, guys.
42:07.8
nasa Prague, yata.
42:10.6
Bohemia si ating presidente,
42:15.3
our very fashionable president.
42:18.6
Of course, there's nothing better
42:19.8
in this world than going to Prague,
42:22.2
all of the beauty
42:22.9
and everything like that out there.
42:25.1
Now, there were a couple of discussions
42:27.1
between President Marco Jr.
42:29.7
and European leaders.
42:31.9
the one that stood out for me
42:33.1
is in discussion between
42:34.4
Chancellor Kanzler Scholz
42:37.0
ng Germany and BBM
42:38.7
over issue of ICC, for instance.
42:41.3
Looks like the Germans are pushing
42:43.2
for the Philippines to comply
42:45.1
with international humanitarian law
42:46.5
to improve the conditions on the ground.
42:48.4
But it looks like BBM is still,
42:50.0
at least on the surface,
42:51.3
still playing neutral on this matter.
42:53.5
The way Marcus tried to get out of this
42:55.4
is to say at least what the things are,
42:58.3
he's developing a much more
43:00.7
health public policy,
43:02.7
rehabilitative approach.
43:04.2
What is your read on that, Ronald?
43:05.4
Do you think that behind the scenes,
43:06.8
I don't know about the Americans
43:07.6
because obviously Americans have an interest
43:09.0
in the Philippines military,
43:11.1
we know that Germans tend to be
43:12.5
a little bit Germans, right?
43:13.8
Sometimes, if they really mean something,
43:15.1
they're going to tell you.
43:15.7
Hindi silang pakiyot, diba?
43:17.0
They don't keep talk.
43:18.1
Do you think there was some,
43:19.3
probably a little bit tense conversation
43:21.0
behind the scenes,
43:22.1
Scholz saying to Marcus,
43:23.5
hey, you want to do something
43:24.4
about this ICC and Duterte issue?
43:27.5
you're Marcus Jr.
43:28.6
We don't want to be identified with you
43:30.1
if you're not going to do something big.
43:32.5
Well, katulad nga ng mga pinag-uusapan natin
43:34.4
sa mga previous episodes,
43:35.6
hindi pwede mag-need-picking si BBM, eh.
43:39.0
Sa international law.
43:40.7
Na-invoke mo international law
43:42.2
sa West Philippine Sea,
43:43.2
tapos hindi mo i-invoke dito
43:44.7
sa usapin ng impunity
43:45.8
na issue ng ICC naman, no?
43:48.9
Dito sa ke-Digong.
43:51.9
Mahirap siyang mag-ano, eh.
43:52.9
At sa mga Europeans,
43:54.5
walang either-or, eh.
43:56.7
Yun yung framework ng...
43:58.2
Europe is a community
44:00.1
It's principles, eh.
44:01.5
Values-based community.
44:03.1
Hindi lang siya interest, eh.
44:05.1
Binabalansin nila usually yan,
44:06.8
pero bottom line,
44:08.0
ay hindi nila iiwanan
44:09.4
yung mga ganong klaseng framework
44:11.1
katulad sa human rights.
44:12.3
Very strong sila dyan, no?
44:13.6
You can say a lot about Europe,
44:16.1
pero yan yung isang minimum
44:18.0
na hindi nila bibitawan, no?
44:21.9
yun yung tingin ko
44:24.6
kung gusto talaga ma-rehabilitate
44:28.4
yung Marcus brand,
44:30.1
sa international,
44:31.3
especially sa Europe,
44:32.6
ay kinakailangan na...
44:34.5
kinakailangan niyang tindigan yan, no?
44:38.8
hindi naman binabago ni BBM
44:40.2
yung kanyang posisyon, eh.
44:41.5
Kina-question niya yung jurisdiction,
44:43.5
ang ini-invocusin niya,
44:44.4
hindi na tayo membro,
44:47.6
pero yung kanyang sariling Supreme Court
44:52.6
na may jurisdiction
44:55.0
Yung hindi niya pwedeng kontrahin, no?
45:01.3
Doon pa nga may kaunting nuancing.
45:03.0
Pero sa ating Supreme Court,
45:04.6
malinaw na mayroong jurisdiction
45:10.3
bago tayo umalis, no?
45:11.5
Very clearly, eh.
45:14.6
hindi naman nagbaba ng posisyon
45:16.3
Hindi niya pinawi yung kanyang posisyon
45:17.6
na hindi makakapasok ang ICC.
45:19.6
Na sinasabi lang niya,
45:21.0
jurisdiction, no?
45:22.9
kung yung isa rin
45:24.7
ng madalas mo i-guest
45:29.3
ay walang pampinggan,
45:31.7
Yung isang senador
45:32.7
na paborito mo rin,
45:34.9
laging kausap ng ICC,
45:37.7
si Senator Trillanes,
45:39.5
eh, sasabihin niya,
45:41.1
wala, walang pababago.
45:43.0
Yan ay public posturing,
45:45.3
Yan ay public posturing.
45:49.8
ay tuloy pa rin, no?
45:52.8
kung ano yung mangyayari.
45:54.3
Tara, si Sara pa na sa Malacanang,
45:56.5
you don't want to say something stupid,
45:57.9
you know what I'm saying?
45:58.5
Kung gusto mo pa umuwi.
46:03.4
you want to go home safely, right?
46:04.1
Pero ang matalan yan,
46:05.3
pag lumabas yung international waran,
46:07.4
eh, diyan talagang magkakasubukan.
46:09.7
Diyan talagang magkakasubukan.
46:11.1
Pero kung gusto talagang bumango,
46:13.8
yung pa rin ang gusto ni BPM,
46:15.2
gusto niyang bumango
46:16.0
sa international community,
46:19.9
pagbuhin niya yung kanyang narrative,
46:24.4
Richard, may tatanong lang din ako sa'yo,
46:28.7
May gusto natin akong tanong sa'yo.
46:31.6
Kasi yung impression na napupunta sa akin,
46:34.0
it's looking more and more like
46:37.5
is becoming parang a consequential na president na
46:41.1
parang he's leading the ano eh,
46:43.4
dito sa against sa China.
46:44.8
Parang he's one of
46:46.4
mga presidents na
46:48.2
brave enough to stand up.
46:53.2
Parang yung view sa kanya
46:55.2
nung international na mga
47:00.2
more konsekuensya siya na
47:02.1
na leader ngayon sa mundo?
47:05.1
the answer is yes
47:06.1
but not because of BPM.
47:08.5
I remember very well
47:09.9
in some major summit,
47:12.1
actually it was first,
47:13.4
the inaugural Australia-Australia summit
47:15.9
I was talking to some people
47:18.5
perfect sana ang Philippines eh.
47:21.0
Perfect partner sana ang Philippines.
47:22.8
Especially yung ginawa,
47:23.6
I'm not saying this
47:24.2
dahil andyan si Ronald,
47:25.4
pero dahil sa ginawa ni Aquino,
47:27.6
dahil kayo yung shining,
47:28.7
democracy in the region,
47:29.9
fastest growing economy,
47:31.4
perfect sana kayo.
47:32.5
Kasi sa lahat ng ASEAN countries,
47:35.2
yung pinakamalapit yung
47:36.3
shared values and traditions natin.
47:38.1
Hindi ka makahanap na
47:38.8
ibang ASEAN countries na
47:39.8
may liberal democracy.
47:41.6
sa Bogta in many level,
47:43.3
yung familiarity.
47:45.4
pero si Digong eh,
47:47.3
nagabi naman yung government nyo.
47:50.3
a lot of this is pent up.
47:52.6
Yung mga hindi nila magawa
47:53.8
nung pano ni Digong,
47:55.5
ang ganda ng tanong mo ulit,
47:57.1
ginagawa nila ngayon.
47:58.4
But having said that,
47:59.4
I want to be also fair to BBM.
48:01.1
It's not like he's not doing
48:02.4
what he's supposed to do
48:03.4
on the foreign policy front.
48:06.0
swerte siya na Philippines
48:07.3
is in a strategic sweet spot,
48:09.5
na meron tayong ganyan na
48:10.6
mga traditional ties.
48:12.3
But the guy is also
48:13.1
ticking all the boxes.
48:14.1
I want to be fair to the guy.
48:15.9
ang concern ko lang is,
48:17.1
baka he will overdo this,
48:19.0
And go all the way guns blazing.
48:21.3
Because one of the things
48:21.9
I appreciate with BBM is,
48:23.5
no offense Ronald,
48:24.1
but compared sa boss mo,
48:25.2
I think medyo mas diplomatic
48:27.1
si BBM in terms of
48:28.5
dealing with China issues.
48:29.5
I think your boss,
48:30.5
God bless his soul,
48:31.5
sometimes he went a little bit like,
48:33.6
Because if you want to go that far,
48:35.3
Make sure you have this strong military
48:36.6
and backup of other countries.
48:38.4
I think BBM has a better backup
48:40.7
and a far stronger military.
48:42.3
I mean, ikaw Ronald,
48:44.1
that's a very good question.
48:45.0
So I'm trying to be fair here.
48:47.1
not all credit should go to Marcos.
48:49.9
But he has to also get some credit
48:51.4
because he's ticking the boxes.
48:52.8
Yung speeches niya,
48:54.0
Parang halos ako,
48:55.5
Kung ako nagsulat,
48:56.2
yun din ang sasabihin ko eh.
48:57.3
Or kung ako yung presidente,
48:58.7
I'll say exactly things.
48:59.7
Strategic agency,
49:01.4
yung mga terms na ganito
49:02.3
na ginagamit namin
49:03.1
sa think tank world.
49:09.6
yung ibig mo sabihin
49:10.3
ay sobrang baba nung bar
49:11.9
nung six years ni Digo.
49:14.7
You cannot go wrong.
49:16.1
Pero at the same time,
49:18.0
ay meron namang ginawa si BBM.
49:22.2
Na hindi lang dahil
49:23.2
masyadong mababa yung bar.
49:24.9
Meron din naman siyang ginawa.
49:26.2
Nag-scale up siya,
49:28.4
Nag-scale up din siya.
49:29.6
Nag-scale up siya.
49:31.5
kinakabahan na yung mga
49:34.4
katulad ni Anwar,
49:35.5
katulad ni Lee Chen Loong.
49:38.8
Binabatak siya pabalik
49:39.9
na kinakabahan din sila
49:41.5
na baka maapektuhan yung region.
49:50.3
sobrang baba nung bar
49:51.6
kaya tayo ay nasa isang sweet spot.
49:54.3
Pero may ginagawa din si BBM
49:56.2
para mag-scale up.
49:58.3
Partly, nakita naman niya
49:59.8
dun sa, tingin ko mahalaga yung
50:01.4
yung state visit niya sa China
50:03.3
noong January 6, 2023.
50:08.0
niloloko siya ng China.
50:09.2
Nirehash lang yung mga commitments
50:11.9
Kaya kung halimbawa
50:13.9
seryoso yung China na bubuhos,
50:16.8
baka mag-balancing siya.
50:19.2
Dine-Duterte siya.
50:20.2
Dine-Duterte siya ng China.
50:21.7
Nakita niya, inuulol siya.
50:24.4
Grabe ang mga uulol.
50:26.2
Dine-Duterte lang siya.
50:28.1
Tapos, nakikita naman niya,
50:30.2
dahil inuulol siya,
50:32.8
wala namang papasok.
50:34.1
So, lilipat na siya sa ibang
50:36.5
pwedeng magpasok.
50:41.0
karamihan dyan ay MOU.
50:43.6
ay karamihan dyan ay mga LOI.
50:47.0
Mas dun siya pupunta
50:48.4
kesa dito sa mga rehash
50:49.9
na pang-iinsulto sa tingin niya.
50:52.7
Hindi lamang sa kanya.
50:54.0
But Ronald, in fairness naman,
50:56.2
kinuha niya, for instance,
50:57.3
Lufthansa agreed to do
50:58.9
an additional hangar
51:00.4
dun sa Bago Natan Airport.
51:01.8
I mean, this is a $150 million project.
51:04.6
And Germany and Koreans
51:05.5
are all involved.
51:06.2
I don't think bola lang yan.
51:08.2
I mean, we know that, Ronald.
51:09.1
Hindi sila katulad na ibang bansa
51:11.6
They really want business.
51:13.6
Germans mean business.
51:15.4
Saka, nagandahan sila sa Clark.
51:17.7
Iyon yung isang...
51:18.9
They see a future.
51:21.0
Very good point, Ronald.
51:23.5
itong sinasabi ni
51:25.4
Secretary Pascua,
51:26.0
na may 14 billion
51:28.9
eh yung mga kinausap ko
51:30.0
ng mga finance experts,
51:32.7
bakit walang detal eh?
51:34.5
Ang sabi kasi ni Pascua,
51:37.0
Pag sinabi ni Pascua
51:38.0
na nandito na yan,
51:39.3
hindi na yan MOU,
51:41.9
feeling ko gusto mo
51:42.5
yung trabaho ni Pascua
51:43.7
para hindi mo siya binabuli.
51:46.3
Hindi, gusto kong trabaho
51:48.9
Hindi ka magkakamali
51:50.1
at magkakayot eh.
51:52.0
Magkakasuwantay dyan.
51:53.6
You cannot go wrong
51:56.5
hindi ko sila sabi
51:59.2
na walang pumasok
52:01.7
Pero bakit walang detal eh?
52:04.1
Sinabi na niya yan
52:05.2
2-3 weeks ago eh.
52:10.2
baka mapasama sila
52:11.7
kung wala naman pala
52:13.9
i-announce nila eh.
52:15.4
Baka ipahamak nila
52:17.6
Paano yung Presidente?
52:18.5
Sinasabi na rin yan eh
52:19.5
na may 14 billion.
52:21.9
yung mga kinausap
52:22.6
kong financial experts,
52:24.7
dahil walang detal eh.
52:26.5
medyo Duterte ang style.
52:29.4
Gentlesman agreement.
52:30.7
Gentleman's agreement.
52:33.0
itong 4-5 billion daw
52:41.4
Karamihan dyan ay
52:53.6
maraming problema
52:54.2
ang Germany ngayon.
52:56.0
Marami silang problema.
52:57.1
Kailangan silang...
52:57.6
But they're desperate
53:00.2
Yung Bosch Company.
53:01.5
Because German's economy
53:02.7
is in recession also
53:03.6
except Japan is worst recession
53:11.7
from someone who's not
53:13.6
specializing in foreign policy
53:16.1
but someone who's following
53:17.1
very closely politics and all,
53:19.9
hindi ba parang weird
53:23.2
ginaganan-ganan na siya.
53:24.4
They're going gaga over him.
53:26.6
ang dating sa'yo?
53:28.1
they're just being practical,
53:29.8
but behind the scenes,
53:30.8
maybe they're having
53:31.9
the tough conversation.
53:33.0
They're just being polite about this.
53:34.6
Anong basa mo dyan?
53:37.1
Sino yung mga international
53:39.1
and international press?
53:40.4
Western countries.
53:40.8
I'm not talking about China.
53:42.0
Mga democratic countries.
53:43.9
Purong leftist pa.
53:46.2
Labor in Australia.
53:48.6
Social Democrat in Germany.
53:50.6
These are left-center,
53:52.4
left governments.
53:58.6
That's what I find
54:00.9
parang hindi din ako
54:03.6
It's not what you would expect
54:07.8
authoritarian leader
54:14.0
o baka ganun style
54:19.9
is it fair to say
54:23.0
nagiging international na?
54:25.1
New darling of the age.
54:27.4
I think that's the correct term.
54:28.6
I know that's what you had in mind.
54:30.9
I was going to say star eh.
54:32.6
Pero star siguro masyadong.
54:37.3
That's weird, right?
54:38.1
It's a matter lang of
54:40.4
turning that into
54:42.4
actual investments,
54:44.3
Pero yung sa mga trips niya,
54:46.0
ito lang din yung sinasabi ko.
54:47.7
Kasi hindi ito masyadong
54:50.6
Sa mga vloggers and all eh.
54:52.9
like sa Australia.
54:53.8
Like yung sa Vietnam.
54:56.2
yung Vietnam yung
54:56.9
nagsuporta sa atin
55:00.8
yung pagpunta niya is
55:05.6
It's building the
55:06.6
foundations of something.
55:08.2
I see what you're saying.
55:08.9
Building the foundation
55:09.9
of yung magandang
55:10.7
relationships with
55:12.9
countries like Vietnam,
55:17.4
yun dapat yung ginagawa
55:18.5
naman kasi talaga.
55:19.6
Kasi hindi naman tayo
55:22.4
like sa US lahat.
55:24.2
And definitely China,
55:25.8
puro pangako lang
55:26.6
yung ibabato sa atin.
55:27.7
Kasi yun ang sinasabi sa,
55:29.3
ito yung madalas nilang
55:32.7
pinasok sa kanila
55:35.1
dapat neutral lang.
55:36.3
Dapat neutral lang.
55:37.2
Sabi ko hindi naman
55:38.0
neutral yung kay Digong.
55:39.6
And sa panahon ngayon,
55:43.5
kasi parehong sides
55:45.0
may mga magagandang
55:49.4
you have to form alliances
55:50.4
then with other countries
55:53.8
para pananggalang
55:55.2
or pang-balance lang doon
55:57.0
sa nagbabanggaang
55:58.4
superpowers na yun.
56:00.8
pagdating sa online,
56:01.8
hindi siya pinag-uusapan masyado.
56:03.7
And the general public,
56:05.6
na hindi-hindihan pa
56:08.4
good relationships
56:10.5
like yung nga sa Vietnam
56:14.4
pagdating sa defense
56:15.5
natin in the future.
56:17.4
yung makukuha natin
56:18.4
support ang military
56:19.6
and yung mga gamit
56:21.1
and yung technology.
56:22.8
hindi pa siya masyadong
56:23.8
hindi na-appreciate talaga
56:24.9
nung public ngayon.
56:28.4
should spend more effort
56:30.7
explaining to the people
56:32.7
ng mga mga mga mga.
56:32.8
They should get more vloggers
56:34.0
like you to explain it.
56:35.9
Ina-apply na naman ako.
56:37.9
binookin ko yung DTI plans.
56:39.4
DSWD pa lang gusto
56:42.3
Malacanang vlogger.
56:44.7
parang si Secretary Guibo.
56:47.0
That's a good chance
56:47.7
for him to ano eh.
56:49.9
si Secretary Guibo,
56:51.4
minsan tumatakbo din.
56:52.5
Gusto din maging senador
56:53.4
in the parliament.
56:55.3
That's a great way
56:56.3
for him to explain to people
56:58.2
ano ba yung trabaho ko?
56:59.8
Bakit mahalaga yung trabaho ko?
57:03.3
the Philippines in the future
57:05.3
to become more independent
57:06.5
na hindi tayo aasa
57:08.3
sa kung ano mang superpower?
57:11.1
We could build better relationships
57:12.9
with other growing economies
57:19.3
lahat ng mga yun.
57:21.2
you're saying a good point.
57:22.3
Mukhang higher position
57:26.1
stepping stone pa rin yung
57:27.5
pro-stepping stone.
57:31.7
they like ano eh.
57:32.6
Strong-willed individuals eh.
57:37.4
I super agree with you.
57:39.1
Kaya di ba we had an episode
57:40.2
the other week na
57:41.1
parang how shocked we are
57:45.9
ang etong administration na to
57:47.4
considering maharli ka,
57:48.6
maharli ka pa naman sila.
57:49.8
You're absolutely right.
57:51.2
Maybe that's one thing
57:57.9
Na hindi ka pwede umasa
58:00.1
or traditional media
58:02.0
as important as they are.
58:03.7
But you have to actually
58:04.6
reach out directly
58:05.3
and nothing better than
58:07.3
vlogger extraordinaire
58:10.1
Thank you so much
58:13.0
super mini episode lang
58:16.9
itong Civil Society Convoy na yan.
58:18.6
I think it's important
58:19.5
we have to discuss it
58:21.3
Maraming salamat guys.
58:22.5
Talk to you soon.
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to discuss it shortly
58:26.9
talagang mababama.
58:27.7
Ano yung Civil Society ulit?
58:30.6
yung na-cancel nung December.
58:32.3
Uulitin nila ngayon eh.
58:36.9
Ngayon gagawin naman
58:37.6
sa Bajo de Masfildo.
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Penultimate episode natin.
58:42.5
Andal-dalgasin natin
58:43.4
yung purong napapush
58:44.7
yung penultimate.
58:45.7
So in the previous episode
58:55.7
traditional media
58:58.5
na hindi lang matroll.
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Hindi yung totoo.
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Because my understanding is
59:03.8
big things are happening.
59:05.2
So shortly we'll discuss
59:07.5
Itong second plan
59:08.4
by the Philippine Civil Society
59:12.1
I think this time
59:13.0
Scarborough, siyol.
59:13.8
Hindi na ayungin, siyol.
59:15.0
But before going there
59:17.1
actually this week
59:18.4
made a big announcement
59:19.4
na meron na tayong
59:20.7
new strategic doctrine.
59:21.9
Itong comprehensive
59:28.5
ang kailangan natin
59:30.0
So palakasin natin
59:31.0
yung position natin.
59:33.2
historically ang orientation
59:35.8
southwest, di ba?
59:37.2
Dahil sa Mindanao,
59:39.3
dahil sa Abu Sayyaf.
59:40.6
But now our orientation
59:43.2
Northeast and northwest
59:44.5
because of Scarborough,
59:45.7
because of Taiwan,
59:47.2
because of Benham Rice.
59:49.7
more and more people
59:51.3
coming in Batanes
59:54.6
Mavulis is being developed.
59:56.2
Aurora, Cagayan, Isabela,
59:58.5
Big, big things are happening.
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magbibuild din ng
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civilian port facilities.
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Huge things are happening,
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Were these things
60:09.2
during Pinoy's time?
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this is a logical progression
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of what Pinoy started?
60:15.1
AFP modernization
60:16.2
na ginagawa niyang
60:22.1
mas ina-innovated
60:24.3
yung kanyang policy eh.
60:26.9
very critical siya sa China,
60:29.1
lalo na sa pambubuli,
60:30.9
naging aggressive na
60:32.1
sa South China Sea,
60:33.5
yung 9-dash line,
60:40.1
sa mga Amerikano.
60:43.7
dahil marami nga siyang
60:44.7
criticism sa mga Amerikano
60:47.2
yung tulong sa atin.
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Naririnig ko siya,
60:53.8
yung binibigay kayo sa atin, nagja-jump pa yung
60:56.2
nag-iisang barel.
60:57.6
Parang bakit yung ibang mga
60:59.8
bansa? Nagwala siya once, di ba?
61:01.6
Nagwala siya once, nainis siya.
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Pinubuusan niya ng tulong.
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very critical sa China.
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Hindi naman sa walang tiwala.
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Pero may mga reklamo siya
61:12.8
sa mga Amerikano.
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mas independent siya.
61:18.6
Sige, tumulong kayo pero
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you have to put your
61:22.9
money where your mouth is.
61:24.4
You have to put your boats where your mouth is.
61:31.4
itong sa convoy na ito,
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It's a first civilian civil society
61:37.1
convoy sa West Philippine Sea.
61:39.8
At for a while, for almost
61:41.3
a month, hinarangan niya ng National Security
61:43.3
Council. Maraming first yan eh.
61:45.5
Hindi lang yan yung first
61:46.5
civilian civil society convoy.
61:49.5
Yan yung first time na pinayagan ng mga
61:51.1
foreign journalists na sumama.
61:52.9
Yan yung first time na pinayagan sila
61:55.1
mag simultaneous telecast
61:56.9
habang nandun sila sa
61:58.8
sa barko. Before kasi,
62:01.1
pwede ka lang mag telecast sa port.
62:03.4
Sa lupa. Hindi pwede sa...
62:04.9
So maraming mga first na nangyari dyan.
62:07.2
At ang mahalaga ay
62:09.0
yung dating mga suspicion.
62:10.8
Alam mo naman yan na
62:12.0
Richard, very suspicious ang civil society
62:18.7
medyo nandun pa rin yung
62:20.7
distance pero at least
62:22.9
nakakaisa sila vis-a-vis
62:24.7
China. At ito nga,
62:26.7
itong nakakatawa nga itong Easter
62:28.6
convoy na dapat gagawin sana
62:30.9
itong Easter pero mukhang i-adjust
62:32.9
dahil kulang sa panahon,
62:37.1
Coast Guard na i-announce na
62:38.6
susuportahan nila itong Easter convoy
62:40.6
last week. Paano in-announce
62:42.8
ito nung atin ito koalisyon?
62:44.9
Two days ago lang eh. Ibig sabihin
62:46.8
no? Ngayon naman, kumbaga
62:48.8
nung last year, hinarangan nila
62:50.9
ito for a month. Eh ngayon, nauna pa siya.
62:54.7
yung sinasabi nga nung
62:56.8
isang commentator na ito yung
62:58.8
laging sinasabi ng gobyerno na kinakailangan
63:01.6
people's support dito sa West Philippine
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Sea. Pero hindi naman nila
63:06.4
encourage yung people. Ngayon, parang
63:08.8
may ganong klaseng
63:09.7
complementation. Bagamat
63:12.6
hiwalay pa rin sila. At
63:19.1
dahil marami kasing mangyayari
63:20.9
ngayong April, may balikatan pa. Kaya hindi
63:22.7
ko alam kung pwede magsabay-sabay yan eh.
63:24.8
No? April or May, makakaroon
63:26.7
na naman ng convoy. No?
63:28.5
Dito naman, purely mga
63:30.4
mangyayisda ito. Dahil wala naman
63:32.6
BRP Sierra Madre sa Bajo de
63:34.5
Masinloc. So, ito ay
63:36.4
mas marami mangyayisda, mas marami
63:38.5
mga bangka, yung bibigyan nila
63:40.6
ng suporta. Food at saka
63:42.2
gasoline. No? Pero siyempre,
63:45.3
yung hindi lang yan
63:46.2
ayuda. Ang habol dyan, ay
63:48.3
i-assert na mga maliliit na mangyayisda
63:50.5
at yung kanila mga supporters,
63:54.0
yung pag-claim sa West
63:56.4
Philippine Sea. Pero may additional
63:58.0
factor ito. Marami mga environmental
64:00.5
issues yung sasama. No?
64:02.5
Kumbaga, magkakaroon ito ng
64:03.8
strong environmental component.
64:06.8
Kahit napag-usapan yan
64:09.0
Christmas convoy, dito magkakaroon
64:12.6
yan ng mahalagang
64:18.4
convoy na ito. At
64:20.1
mukhang pinag-aaralan din
64:22.7
ang gobyerno, I'm not sure kailan nila
64:24.5
gagawin, yung pag-file ng
64:26.3
panibagong kaso sa UNCLOS based
64:30.1
destruction ng ating West Philippine Sea.
64:32.5
So pwede ito mag-complement kahit hindi sila
64:34.7
pare-parehong nagpa-plano.
64:36.5
Right. Thank you very much.
64:38.6
Ikaw, Mark, how do you understand
64:40.6
all of this? Hindi ba parang
64:42.2
ambilis sa pangyayari? Lumalaki na
64:44.6
yung presence natin malapit sa Taiwan,
64:46.5
lumalaki na ng itong mga modernization
64:48.7
natin, or at least yung mga plano natin.
64:50.4
Does this sound too ambitious to you or more
64:52.7
belated correction or
64:54.7
like habol time, catch-up time? How do you
65:00.3
antagal kasing nawala eh.
65:02.3
Antagal ng panahon na nawala. Tanong ko lang,
65:04.4
yung bang sa level na ganyan,
65:06.7
kasama ba dyan yung mga katulad
65:08.4
nung ginawa nung sila Ivan Watson sa CNN?
65:12.5
with that or iba pa yun?
65:14.6
Well, they have embedded journalists
65:16.3
for some of their activities. Ginagawa nila
65:18.6
for quite some time eh. Pero iba tong convoy eh.
65:20.6
Ito yung mga Filipino.
65:22.7
Yung kasi media yun eh. International media.
65:25.0
They've been doing that. I think dati,
65:28.0
AP, sorry, and Ozone's France Press
65:30.8
or ABS-CBN. Diba dati parating nila
65:32.9
ginagawa yun? Yung embedded sila.
65:34.5
Yung binubuking nila yung panahon ng Digong, diba?
65:36.6
Si Zambrano ba yan? Si Zambrano,
65:38.8
diba? She used to do a lot of that.
65:40.7
Pero iba to, Ronald. So again, not to
65:42.8
spill the beans or something.
65:44.9
Is this the same group of people who'll be involved?
65:48.4
the coalition is atin ito.
65:51.1
Pero ngayon, mas marami ng environmentalists
65:52.7
and environmental groups yung sasama.
65:54.4
At saka mas marami ng mga fishermen's
65:57.5
organizations yung sasama
66:01.1
Medyo nabulat sila
66:02.8
sa success ng Christmas Convoy eh.
66:05.2
Bira mo nung minomonitor nila,
66:06.7
more than 600 international
66:08.7
media outlets yung naglabas.
66:15.0
et cetera. Tapos yung
66:17.1
traction, halimbawa rito,
66:20.9
usually kasi yung media cycle,
66:22.7
sa mga ganyang event, 2-3 days lang eh.
66:27.0
Hanggang late January,
66:29.5
May billboard eh. May billboard sa Etsy.
66:32.1
At saka hindi lang yun.
66:34.0
Bumawa ng special. Ang Rappler,
66:36.2
ang ABS-CBN, ang GMA7,
66:40.3
ang TV5. Bumawa sila ng specials
66:42.8
after nung event.
66:44.0
One month after nung event.
66:45.8
So, medyo nagulat yung mga...
66:47.7
Baka sila na rin. Hindi ba si
66:48.8
Andanar sa CGT in China?
66:51.0
Hindi wala siyang special.
66:52.7
Hindi namin naman nito.
66:53.7
Pero nagulat sila doon sa naging traction.
66:58.5
Halimbawa, na-meet ko yung mga ruling party
67:03.5
sa Germany, sa France, sa Spain
67:06.5
nitong past 2 months.
67:08.0
Eh, alam nila yung Christmas convoy.
67:11.2
Baka mas alam pa nila, no?
67:13.0
Kesa doon sa iba natin mga politiko, no?
67:15.7
Yan yung pan, yung Prime Minister ng Spain,
67:17.7
kinikwento yan, no?
67:19.0
Yung Chancellor ng Germany, kinikwento yan.
67:22.6
So, ibig sabihin, medyo magandang inspiration
67:25.6
para dito sa second convoy na nanonood yung mundo.
67:29.6
They're watching, no?
67:32.6
Sama niyo. Parang may vloggers din, diba?
67:34.6
Hindi ba pwede kami mga vloggers,
67:36.6
mga ordinary yung...
67:37.6
Kami mga ordinary mga umayan.
67:39.6
Dapat sumama kami, diba?
67:41.6
Ito lang din ba yun usually?
67:44.6
Ano siya katagal usually?
67:48.6
Dahil mas malapit eh.
67:50.6
Baka one day ito.
67:51.6
Yung sa Ayungin kasi, mga two to three days ang original plan doon eh.
67:56.6
Ito hindi gano'ng kalayo.
67:59.6
Itong Bajo de Macinloc.
68:01.6
Matanong ka lang, sino ang...
68:03.6
Who are the people pinaka-behind?
68:06.6
Or leading itong atin ito?
68:08.6
Chief organizers.
68:10.6
Yung partido ni Sen. Teresa, yung Akbayan, no?
68:15.6
Tapos yung party president, siya yung talking head, si Rafaela, si Paeng.
68:20.6
Tapos sumama dyan, yung isa sa pinakamalaking NGO sa Pilipinas, yung PRRM, led by an 80-year-old former priest, si Father Edicio de la Torre.
68:31.6
So sila yung dalawang talking head niya. Pero marami pang iba.
68:35.6
Yung isa, magsaysay awardee, si Bailon, nanalo siya two years ago. Isa siyang mangingisda na based sa Cagayan sa Mindanao.
68:44.6
Tapos kasama rin dyan yung mga dating mga hindi mga close na mga grupo, katulad ng Magdalo ni Sen. Trillanes at yung Reformed Armed Forces ni Gringo Hunasan.
68:55.6
So kasama rin sila dyan.
68:57.6
Medyo broad yan. Tapos kasama dyan yung Catholic Church. Si Bishop Pabillo.
69:02.6
At for the first time, diba Richard, naglabas ng posisyon ng CBCP tungkol sa West Philippine Sea last month.
69:12.6
Ibig sabihin nagkakaroon nito ng...
69:17.6
Dati hindi sumasama dyan yung SEAC, yung Catholic Educators Association of the Philippines. Ito yung mga Catholic schools.
69:25.6
Ngayon, tinatalakay nila ito sa mga kwan nila, sa mga eskwelahan. Merong mga caravan ngayon.
69:32.6
So medyo may bagong nare-revitalize na nationalism. Not in the negative way.
69:42.6
Dapat hindi lang itong gobyerno...
69:46.6
Dapat may ganyan na ganyan. Na sana ay magpatuloy. Parang nag-discovery ng mga tao ngayon.
69:54.6
So hindi siya... kumaga sinusubukan niyang humiwalay dun sa mga political aspects of it. So may ganun ba?
70:03.6
Hindi naman humiwalay. Pero yung mga politiko natin hindi kasama rito. Nung simula...
70:09.6
Walang epal. Walang epal.
70:11.6
Nung simula, tinutulan nito ng gobyerno. Nung simula, tinutulan nito for almost a month. Kaya na-reset siya nung na-reset eh.
70:18.6
Yung Christmas Convoy. Eventually, narealize nila na medyo makakatulong ito dun sa ating projection sa international.
70:26.6
Lalo na talagang they stop monitoring eh. Lumabas na lang 600 media outlets yung namamonitor nila.
70:34.6
Nalaglalabas Washington Post, New York Times, Newsweek, Le Monde, Der Spiegel.
70:40.6
Ang hindi na lang nagcover nito, yung qual eh? Yung R&R?
70:44.6
Models of Manila.
70:49.6
SM9. Hindi, for sure may cover yun. Binabash-bash yun. Binabash-bash kayo ng SM9. Baka may CGTN special.
70:58.6
Pero nag-uulap ako. Alam mo yung Vera Files? Kina Ellen Tontesillas. Naglabas nila ng special end of January. Ibig sabihin two months after the event.
71:12.4
ng mga media outlets dito,
71:14.7
may kanya-kanyang special.
71:16.4
Kaya medyo nakakatuwa.
71:17.2
Special na special talaga. Biggest of big arc.
71:27.6
ang tawag nila rito, Freedom Vote.
71:32.1
Ito daw yung tutong PI.
71:34.4
Ito daw yung tutong PI.
71:35.9
Tutong People's Initiative.
71:37.1
Last point, I mean, Ronald,
71:41.0
sigurado niya, maayos yung
71:43.9
captain. Baka mamaya matakot na naman
71:46.7
ng konting pinitip lang ng China,
71:48.4
umikot na naman yan. Ayus-ayusin niya.
71:50.7
And then, pag nakasakay dyan si Mark,
71:52.9
tingin ko, walang atras niya.
71:58.7
mga ordinaryong tao.
72:01.2
Nung Christmas Convoy, wala masyado
72:04.0
Oo, dapat may vloggers, hindi lang media.
72:06.2
Ilan-ilan, mga ilan-ilan. Pero ang marami
72:08.2
last time, media.
72:09.9
No, media. Pero baka ngayon...
72:11.9
Mas maganda vloggers, oo.
72:13.4
Oo, damihan yung vloggers. May mga laki-tako, ilang mga vloggers.
72:16.3
Pero yung hindi mga...
72:16.7
Kaso walang Wi-Fi. Wala bang walang Wi-Fi
72:20.1
sa ano? Umaabot ba?
72:21.9
Umaabot ba yung Smart O Globe doon? O baka naman
72:24.1
China Telecom na yun?
72:28.0
may dala silang Elon Musk.
72:30.4
May dala silang Elon Musk na,
72:36.2
O, medyo mahal lang.
72:39.3
Medyo mahal lang kung ikaw bibili.
72:41.0
Pero kung si Big R ang bibili,
72:42.6
na mga worth 800,000 pesos,
72:45.1
kayang-kayang ni Big R.
72:46.0
Ayun lang pala eh.
72:48.6
Dali na natin sa China yung story.
72:50.3
Iba pala yung sa dagat.
72:52.9
Iba pala yung sa land.
72:53.8
Mas komplikado yung sa dagat.
72:56.0
Mahal pala yung sa dagat.
72:58.0
Parang 25,000 yata yung nasa
73:01.8
Gusto ko naman aerial, spatial.
73:03.6
Okay. Thank you so much guys.
73:06.2
Salamat. Super na-enjoy ko itong
73:09.7
Talagang ano to eh.
73:11.6
Halos isang libong tao nakalive sa atin
73:13.8
until 11pm. Ako sabaw na ako.
73:15.9
4pm pa ako nagtuturo.
73:18.7
Bakit hindi ka kumain?
73:20.6
Di niya ka kita nampanuan.
73:22.5
O si Mark, umuwi ka na.
73:24.5
Nandiyan ko pa rin sa kalsada.
73:27.4
Tinitignan ko ngayon sa likod mo eh.
73:29.9
Baka mamaya, maano ka dyan.
73:32.9
Sige Mark, mga vloggers, ay bitahin mo.
73:36.2
Mark, dali mo yung mga vloggers para naman.
73:38.2
May ibang angle naman.
73:39.2
On that note, God bless.
73:40.5
God bless the Philippines.
73:41.5
Mabuhay kay Mabuhay kay Sir Ronald.
73:43.2
Mabuhay kay Mark.
73:44.5
And God willing, talk to you guys soon.
73:46.0
And don't forget Mark,
73:46.9
kapag usapan natin with Ronald and Chris and the rest,
73:49.9
let's do like somewhere tagay tayo.
73:51.8
Somewhere nice, ganun.
73:54.0
Para naman ibang vibes.
73:55.2
I'm sure our supporters and followers would love to see that.
74:00.8
Thank you so much.
74:01.4
Si Sir Ronald na mag-drive sa atin.
74:03.0
Okay. Thank you guys.
74:04.4
God bless. Ingat.
74:09.1
Thank you very much dun sa mga
74:12.9
May internet connection tayo.
74:17.6
I don't know what's going on.
74:18.6
Pero eto, kahit sabaw na sabaw tayo.
74:20.1
Nag-dalawang graduate class pa ako kanina back to back.
74:23.8
Aside from writing long essays and all.
74:26.2
Kahit ganun, inspired na inspired tayo sa discussion natin.
74:28.8
Kasi kitang-kita natin sa comments,
74:31.2
sa mga banat nyo,
74:33.1
sa mga stars nyo,
74:34.9
sa mga support nyo na
74:36.0
na-appreciate nyo etong ginagawa natin.
74:43.5
versus Ben and Ben.
74:45.1
Yun po yung gagawin namin.
74:46.7
Good suggestions, guys.
74:47.7
Thank you so much again.
74:49.1
And God willing, talk to you soon.
74:50.5
Pag-usapan natin, God willing, next week.
74:52.9
Mga pangyayari around the world.
74:55.5
God bless. Ingat.
74:57.5
And have a blessed Sunday po.
74:59.7
Sabatay. God bless po.
