00:19.3
totoo ba na si Kibuloy?
00:20.4
May mga tinitrain sila ng mga military army people.
00:23.0
May nakita akong mga ceremony na
00:24.8
parang yung academy ni Kibuloy
00:26.8
ay tumutulong dun sa mga gusto magsundalo.
00:28.7
I mean, what's the score there?
00:29.9
I'm seeing a lot of stuff there.
00:31.2
I mean, ano ba na nga?
00:35.0
I haven't verified that.
00:36.6
But I think the NBI should,
00:40.2
the DOJ should send the NBI
00:42.5
to Davao to look for Kibuloy
00:46.3
because you cannot rely on the police there.
00:49.8
And to what degree is the Kibuloy saga
00:53.0
important on the potential fall of the House of Duterte?
00:57.4
Kasi, are they, I mean, in a way,
00:59.9
I mean, kung hindi mahuli-huli si Kibuloy,
01:02.8
in a way, he's just gonna be an easygoing fugitive,
01:06.9
then what are the prospects for even more powerful people
01:10.4
being held accountable?
01:11.6
Or maybe it's a matter of choose your battles
01:13.5
and go for what's more important.
01:14.5
Do you get what I'm saying, right, Justice Carr?
01:16.2
Because it's easy for people to be skeptical.
01:18.6
Lagi, ito yung sinasabi nyo,
01:19.7
malapit ng ICC, malapit na gano'n.
01:21.4
Eh, tingnan nyo nga si Bantag,
01:23.5
Si Kibuloy nga, going around pa rin.
01:25.0
Tapos yung mga videos na from last year
01:26.6
na birthday niya,
01:27.6
lumilitaw pa rin,
01:28.9
which gives the wrong impression.
01:29.9
Na this guy is having a good time.
01:31.8
Maybe he is, right?
01:32.8
So I think there's also this skepticism,
01:34.9
if not cynicism, na this is all noise.
01:37.6
At the end of the day,
01:39.0
powerful people get away,
01:40.6
you know, with injustice and wrongdoings.
01:44.3
Are you confident that the arc of justice is bending,
01:47.0
I mean, the history is bending
01:47.9
towards the arc of justice,
01:49.0
finally, at least on this issue,
01:50.2
because there's so much involved,
01:52.0
national interest, human rights,
01:55.8
Ang dami na nilang kalaban.
01:57.0
Sila-sila na rin nag-away na ngayon.
01:59.9
Well, I think President Marcos Jr.
02:04.5
will have to show some results here
02:07.8
because if you have bantag
02:10.4
beyond the reach of the law,
02:14.4
he cannot be found.
02:16.1
And if you have Kibuloy,
02:17.4
I think that will show some incompetence.
02:23.4
Parang Tevez lang, di ba?
02:24.2
Alam ko nahuli lang Tevez so far,
02:26.0
but still, I mean...
02:28.2
Well, Tevez is out of the country,
02:29.9
but these two are here.
02:32.1
I mean, you should be able to find them.
02:35.4
And if you cannot find them,
02:37.5
that means the police and the NBI
02:40.4
are not with you.
02:43.7
That raises questions about
02:45.1
chain of command's coherence, right?
02:47.6
To put it mildly, di ba?
02:49.0
In an era of GPS and drones and everything,
02:51.8
hindi mo mahanap yung mga taong.
02:53.4
I'm having a hard time believing that,
02:56.2
Lastly, I forgot to ask you,
02:57.9
what do you think about itong...
02:59.9
editorial by the Manila Times?
03:03.8
Beijing's Mouthpiece.
03:05.7
Directly attacking Digong.
03:07.5
I mean, remember,
03:08.5
kasama ka ba, sir, sa Matrix?
03:11.4
Galit kami ni Ronald
03:12.3
kasi di kami sinama doon.
03:13.5
Sinama pa si Gretchen Noa
03:15.7
Kaming dalawa hindi sinama eh.
03:17.4
Yung, alam mo, di ba?
03:18.8
Yung Matrix 1, Matrix 2, di ba?
03:21.8
Ngayon, galit na yung editorial
03:23.1
for the Manila Times
03:24.1
kasi Digong, mouthpiece na daw siya.
03:25.6
What's going on there?
03:26.6
Is this like the, I don't know,
03:29.9
Alam mo, what's going on here?
03:33.2
I hope they're sincere
03:35.8
in what they're doing.
03:38.8
you know, on the other side of the world,
03:42.1
you have a lot of people
03:44.7
the political parties
03:46.9
and joining the party of the president.
03:50.9
So, baka ganyan din yan, no?
03:53.0
So, we'll have to look and see.
04:00.9
one less people for one side
04:02.6
is always something positive.
04:04.4
I mean, I'm just being so,
04:06.3
pinipilit ko na lang
04:07.3
maging optimistic about our country.
04:09.4
Pero, di ba, Justice Carver,
04:10.4
kung hindi mo mauli si Banda
04:13.9
it's hard to get people
04:14.9
excited about justice
04:16.3
when it comes to someone
04:17.2
way bigger, di ba?
04:19.5
the president has to show some teeth.
04:22.8
kaya nga tawag sa kanya,
04:24.9
Nung vlogger scammer na yan,
04:26.9
kuting ang tawag sa,
04:29.0
Eh, tigre ng norte,
04:30.6
dapat pakita siya ng ano,
04:34.7
I'm sure they can find these two
04:40.0
they know where they are.
04:43.8
if they could not be arrested.
04:48.0
may three-in-one package
04:51.3
I-stop-up silang lahat.
04:54.2
dahil ilokan ng presidente natin,
04:56.7
i-three-in-one na natin,
04:58.8
wala natin silang huli, no?
05:00.5
So, alam nyo na siya yung third
05:01.6
para kompleto yung three-in-one natin.
05:04.5
Kung cheap fake yung kabila,
05:06.3
dito naman three-in-one
05:10.4
is there anything else you want to tell
05:11.7
dun sa mga kapabayan natin?
05:13.3
Thank you so much, ha,
05:14.6
we talked about a reed bank
05:15.6
which is not discussed too much
05:16.7
but apparently when we talk,
05:18.5
sige, huwag natin pag-usapan,
05:19.7
hayaan natin gumawa lang
05:20.7
ng tama yung gobyerno.
05:22.0
Pero, Justice Carver,
05:24.7
sequential lawfare
05:26.7
and then potentially backing it up
05:28.5
with directly challenging
05:29.7
their de facto encirclement
05:31.2
and semi-occupation.
05:32.7
That should be the way forward
05:33.6
kasi nakatinga lang tayo dyan.
05:35.3
So, forever na yung ganyan
05:36.4
yung Scarborough Shull.
05:37.6
That's untenable.
05:40.1
Yeah, we should do something.
05:43.3
Thank you very much,
05:45.3
hopefully next time,
05:46.2
hindi na ito yung mga
05:47.0
cheap Zoom yung gagawin natin.
05:49.3
Gagana yung UP faculty natin.
05:50.8
Otherwise, kailangan ko na
05:51.6
mag-upgrade dito.
05:53.4
thank you very much, Justice Carver.
05:55.5
More power to you
05:56.5
talk to you soon.
05:57.3
Hopefully, we can arrange
05:58.7
kasi ang init lang ngayon.
06:01.0
kung hindi na mainit,
06:01.8
let's arrange in person naman
06:04.0
I think lots, lots to discuss.
06:06.3
Thank you so much, sir.
06:08.8
And thank you to our viewers.
