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Ito, let's start with this one, mga kabatid natin.
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This was five days ago.
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May interview si Senator Bato de la Rosa sa ABS-CBN News, mga kabatid natin.
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Ang title nito, okay, Bato insists PIDEA leak documents authentic.
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Says, paper not AI generated.
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Okay, ngayon, ano yung ginagawa Senate Investigation in Aid of Legislation?
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Tumuloy yun kanina.
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Lumabas ulit si Morales, okay?
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Nung nagkaroon ng hearing kanina, mga kabatid natin,
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merong pro kay Morales, which is Bato,
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meron ding anti kay Morales, which is Jingoy Estrada.
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Ngayon, mga kabatid natin, sino ang paniniwalaan natin sa kanila?
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Mga kabatid natin, this,
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Articular Senate Hearing in Aid of Legislation is not fact-finding.
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Hindi mo malalaman yan kung ano yung, malalaman dyan kung ano ang katotohanan o hindi.
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Itong Senate Investigation in Aid of Legislation, mga kabatid natin,
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hindi mo kailangan alamin.
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O hindi mo kailangan, pag gagawa ka ng batas kasi, mga kabatid natin,
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all you needed are hypothetical scenarios that are actually possible na pwedeng mangyari.
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Hindi mo kailangan yung truth o hindi mo kailangan yung actual fact
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in relation to matters at hand para makagawa ka ng batas.
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Ang nangyayari dito kasi, mga kabatid natin, sa Senate Investigation in Aid of Legislation,
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kung bakit walang pinapatunguhan ito, eh, akala mo korte sila.
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Akala mo korte sila na sila yung nagahanap ng katotohanan.
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all possible loopholes to consider, ganoon gumawa ng batas.
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It should be comprehensive na lahat ng loopholes i-coconsider mo.
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That's why you have to be smart, okay?
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Because you will be thinking of hypothetical scenarios wherein the law may be abused
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or may be inapplicable or may be disadvantages to the people.
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Tandaan natin, we create laws to further advantage to the people, okay?
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Ngayon, mga kabatid natin, well, tama yung sinabi ni Joel, dapat encompassing din.
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Ngayon, tignan nyo ang labanan.
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Ano ang totoo at hindi totoo?
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Tapos tignan nyo dito, mga kabatid natin, meron din si Representative Ace Barbers.
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This was just six hours ago.
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Sabi niya, Representative Ace Barbers.
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Kinestiyon ang motibo sa pag-imbita ng Senado kay dating PDEA Agent Morales.
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Ano ang motibo ng Senado?
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Kinestiyon ni Surigao Del Norte, 2nd District Representative Robert Ace Barbers.
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Ano ang motibo ng Senate Committee on Public Order and Dangerous Drugs
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na pinamumunuan ni Sen. Bato de la Rosa?
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Ito nasa net 25, mga kabatid natin.
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I don't want to be specific.
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I want to address all of them because this is what they do with Senate investigation in
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aid of legislation.
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That's why the former Sen. Miriam Santiago said, nothing substantial ang nangyayari or
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nothing substantial comes out of Senate investigations in aid of legislation because they use it
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for grandstanding.
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And mga kabatas natin, they don't know the purpose of it.
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It's not a fact-finding hearing.
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Tinitignan mo kung ano yung mga pwede mong gawing batas.
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Ngayon, will it matter kung nagsasabi ng totoo si Morales o hindi?
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Will it matter kung totoo yung PIDEA leaks o hindi?
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It's not supposed to matter, right?
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Hindi dapat kailangan.
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Kasi nga, you can assume.
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Parang yung ginagawa natin, mga kabatas natin, whenever we discuss here in batas natin, di ba?
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For academic discussions, we assume things as correct, as truth.
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Para makapag-isip tayo kung ano yung mga applicable na batas.
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Ngayon, mga kabatas natin, nakita niyo ba kung ano yung nangyayari?
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For sure, it's a waste of time.
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It's a waste of time talaga tapos may dinadamay pa sila like Marisol Soriano.
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Mamaya pupuntahin na natin yung PIDEA leaks na yan, mga kabatas natin.
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It's really useless.
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It's really useless.
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Kasi yung mga linik nila ng documents na yan, pag nalik yan, pag confidential yan, mayroon ng criminal liability yung mga ganyan.
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Pag confidential yan.
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Tapos ilalabas nyo pa si Marisol Soriano, tatanungin nyo si Marisol Soriano, para saan?
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So ngayon, kung nalaman natin nga na nagdodroga doon si Bogbong Marcos, pwede nyo ba siyang kasuhan?
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Eh wala namang kayong ebidensya.
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Yung mga papeles na yun na lumabas.
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Assume that it is correct.
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It is actually a government document.
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What is its probative value?
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Ano ba ang probative value, mga kabatas natin?
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Probative value is the probability of evidence to reach its proof purpose...
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or relevant fact in issue.
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Ano ang probative value ng mga dokumento na yun?
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Even we assume that everything there is true.
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It has no probative value.
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Hindi naman mapapatunayan nun.
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Dokumento na yun na nagdadrags.
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Si Bongbong Marcos.
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Ilabas nyo yung pulburon video.
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Malamang yun may probative value.
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What do you want to prove in that particular document?
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Na nagdudurog, nagpupulburon.
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Si President Bongbong Marcos, di ba?
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Probative value is the probability of evidence to reach its proof purpose of a relevant fact in issue.
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It is one of the main elements of admitting evidence as the admitted evidence must be relevant.
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Tending to make the fact in issue more likely or less likely to happen no matter how slight its probability is.
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Does it have a probative value?
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It doesn't have any probative value.
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The PIDEA right now, mga kabatas natin, can make those to any person they want.
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If that's the only document they have, they cannot prove that someone is using drugs, not even Maricel Soriano, even if they have those documents.
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Meron pang government-issued puncher, di ba?
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That's why I don't like this Senate investigation in aid of registration because it's gone awry.
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Sabi niya, ayang magtupansin siya.
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Sayang oras, sayang pera.
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It has no probative value even if it is true.
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Let's admit that it is true.
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It has no probative value.
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Can it be given in evidence?
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That is very questionable din.
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Kasi nga, the person who will present it, siguro...
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Siguro po, meron na si Morales.
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O sige, siya yung magpe-present.
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Pero ngayon, kahit pumirma siya doon,
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dinayayang PIDEA, e syempre, it is a government document.
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It's still PIDEA who will actually say it finally if it is true or not.
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Kaya lang, let's take for granted PIDEA na and just talk about Morales.
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And Morales presenting that particular evidence.
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Does it have probative value?
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It has no probative value.
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O, tama yung sinabi ni Globes yun.
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Fault finding lang po, attorney.
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They're not fact finding.
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They're a fault finding committee.
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O, tapos merong ano pa.
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Meron siyang live kanina.
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Actually, dito yung pinakaano eh.
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Sabi niyo, it depends on the changing conditions on the ground.
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Yes, may mga gano'n na napapahito pero may experience.
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Being under a commander or being on top of the command.
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Ay never pa nangyari sa akin yan.
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Lalo, lalo na pag-drug.
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Ay talaga, abangin na kami.
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Si CS, yan nga yung nangyayari.
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Where are we going now?
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Pinapahinto, merong division doon sa Senate hearing.
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May naniniwala, may hindi naniniwala.
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Is that really your purpose?
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Is that really your purpose?
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Parang intention nyo, no?
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Dito sa pag-imbestiga dito sa PDA Leaks.
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Ito yung intention niya.
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Sabi niyo nga po.
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At hinahamon niyo si Maharlika na mag-humarap sa inyong komite.
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Pero parang sumagot na natin si Maharlika.
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Ang sabi daw doon sa...
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Ito rin yung issue kasi dyan eh.
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Si Maharlika, kaya nga nagkakaroon na tayo ng malaking problema.
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Kasi si Maharlika, against siya sa administration, pro siya sa...
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Isa siya ang DDS, di ba?
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Pro-Duterte siya.
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Itong si Bato, we all know pro-Duterte siya.
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Pero of course, you can...
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You cannot be against the administration because you are the administration, okay?
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Do we really need this drama?
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Na parang, Maharlika, Maharlika, hindi ito bola.
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Maharlika, Maharlika, hindi ito bola.
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Sumagot ka naman, wag lang likyan.
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Sabi niya na, kapatid, sa analysis unit, assume PDL leak kagad.
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Eh yun nga yung claim na in-question kung totoong leak.
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But, but, we don't actually need that.
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Yun nga yung sabi ko eh.
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Even if, even if, they can...
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Even if they can prove that it is true, it still has no probative value.
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Ano niya eh, nagtatanong lang naman daw po, Senator, sabi daw ni Maharlika, ano po tugon niyo doon, Senator?
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Nagtatanong na patutsada.
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Hindi naman tayo, hindi naman tayo gano'n kababaw.
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Para saan niya si Tony?
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Ayokong ma-distract.
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Ayokong ma-distract.
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It is a personal attack on my person.
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At hindi ko ito pwede pagbayaan yan, kaya sumagot ako.
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Hindi po po pwede yun dahil, ah, isipin ang mga tao, totoo.
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Ma'am, ang tanong ko lang dito is, yung pagsagot mo ba doon sa Senada, is it the proper venue?
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If your, if your, your personality is being attacked,
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your personality,
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is the Senate a proper venue?
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Are you supposed to use the resources of the Republic of the Philippines for you to defend yourself personally?
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Nung nabayaran ako ni First Lady Lisa Marcos para, ah,
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yung takot ng investigation ay papunta towards...
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Senadong sendong ayaw niya ma-distract.
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Gawan niyo na ni Pinoy pa.
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...I never po, hindi po.
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That is an attack on my personal integrity.
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Attack yan sa institution that I represent.
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That is an attack on my personal integrity.
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Personal integrity.
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Attack yan sa institution that I represent.
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How is, how is an attack sa iyong personal integrity attack sa institution mo?
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Tapos ano ba yung attack sa iyo?
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Yung nabayaran ka.
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Lahat naman na ngayon inaatake ng ganun eh.
14:56.9
Sa batas natin, every, everybody, every, every person na makakakilala sa akin o makakahanap sa akin sa social media,
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ang una-una nilang sasabihin kapag against ako dun sa stance nila, e bayad ako.
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Kasi ang daming bayaran ngayon eh.
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Pero eventually, no, the truth will defend itself.
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Dapat yun ang ipatato sa noo.
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And then, wag joke lang, joke lang.
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Wag ipatato sa noo yun.
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The truth is like a lion.
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Just let it loose and it will defend itself.
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Now, saan na yung issue na yun?
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Na binabato nila na bayad ako?
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Because every person who comes to me, who wants to pay me, I don't want their money.
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We are an independent and we are a co-equal branch of government ng Malacanang.
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We cannot be dictated by Malacanang.
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We cannot be influenced by Malacanang.
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Atake po yan sa amin.
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So, hindi ko po pwede pabayaan.
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Hindi ko pwede pabayaan.
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I don't think that was a good move though.
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Sabi ni Alfred Conde,
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Attorney, question.
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If the credibility of the source person is questionable from the start,
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is his testimony,
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does his testimony,
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does his testimony still matter regardless of any evidence he present?
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Alam nyo, siguro, hindi naman korte yan eh.
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Pero dito kasi mga kabatas natin, this is, they are, tulad nga yung sinabi nila,
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they are in a court of public opinion.
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Yun yung sinasabi nila dito.
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Kaya they actually do ad hominem here.
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They attack the person, they attack the credibility.
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Kasi nga, mga kabatas natin,
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it's a court of public opinion.
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Pero pag pupunta tayo sa korte, mga kabatas natin,
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even if the credibility of the resource person or the witness is in question,
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it will still depend doon sa kanyang evidence na ipipresent.
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Like for example, mga kabatas natin,
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let's talk about credibility of a witness.
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We have what you call a state witness.
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Yung state witness na yun, mga kabatas natin, least guilty yun sa krimen.
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Ibig sabihin, if you talk about his credibility,
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if you talk about his dealings, he is already admittedly a bad person.
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Because to be a resource person, of course, you have to admit first that you have,
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sorry, resource person.
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To be a state witness, you have to admit first that you have a participation in the crime,
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but you are the least guilty.
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But for the state to be able to prosecute the crime,
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kailangan merong witness.
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Ikaw yung gagawing witness para yung mga tao na mas guilty sa iyo,
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e mapunta sa kulungan.
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So that is a very good example about credibility.
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About a person, the personality of a person when it comes to court trials.
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Pero dito kasi mga kabatas natin, like I said, the truth should not matter here.
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Because they are not a fact-finding committee.
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They are supposed to make laws.
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Very irresponsible na comment po yan.
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Senator, hindi naman ho ginagawang sekreta.
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Anyway, nasagot na natin yan.
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Tapos dito nga sa ABS-CBN News na ito, ang pinaka-gist nitong interview na ito,
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nag-iinsisi ba ito na PDLIC documents are authentic,
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they are not, yung paper not AI-generated,
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may mga, may puncher.
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Okay? Pakinggan natin si Ace Barberz.
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Napag-imita sa isang dating ahente ng PDEA, Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency,
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na nagpatutoo tungkol po sa umunoy.
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Tinatawag po ito yung mga PDEA leaked documents.
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Yun nga eh. Tama yung sinabi ni Kayo eh. Bakit PDEA leaks ka agad?
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That's unfair. Diba?
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You have to prove first that it's from PDEA.
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Pero wala na eh. Meron na eh.
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Mula po ito noong 2012, itong mga dokumento na ito na nagpapakita,
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ng ahente ngayon ay PDEA sa bababang kapulungan.
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Representative Robert Ace Barberz, magandang umaga po sa inyo.
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Good morning, Kong Ace. Welcome back.
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Ako, napupunta dito.
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Sabi ko nga. Sabi niyo may utang.
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Kong, eto na. Eto na.
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Net 25 to mga kabatas natin ah.
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Pag naglalabas ako ng ganito, alam niyo naman, hindi ko inaakuyat.
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So kinikwestiyon mo yung motibo na sa isinasagawa pong hearing
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ng Senate Committee on Public Order on Dangerous Drugs chaired by Sen. Bato de la Rosa.
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Hindi ba kayo naniniwala that this is in aid of legislation?
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Yun kasi. Ako talaga, I'm generalizing.
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Until something really substantial, something really substantial comes out of this Senate,
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hearings in aid of legislation, I don't think anything is really being done in aid of legislation.
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Hanggat walang nagagawang batas tungkol dyan, hindi ako maniniwala dyan.
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Well, Ali and Pat, una-una, hindi po natin kinikwestiyon yung kanyang motibo
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because sa karapatan po at nasa power po ng Senado under the Committee on Public Order on Dangerous Drugs, na mag-invite.
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Makinig ka dito, Fabry. Nobody is questioning naman yung legality ng Senate investigations in aid of legislation.
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Okay, Fabry. Nako. Simpleng-simpla yan, ha?
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...investiga in aid of legislation. Ang aking lamang pong tanong na namumuko sa aking isipan, yung testimonya ng witness na si Mr. Morales.
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Para kasi sa akin, yung kanyang testimonya, hindi dapat bigyan ng weight.
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Kasi nga, itong credibility ng Agent Morales na ito ay questionable.
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Why do you say that?
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I don't want to deal, dapat sana. If I just have my say on this one,
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dun sa mga nangyayari dito, we don't actually need to talk about credibility here.
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Let's just stick to the evidence.
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Even if the evidence is true, like I said, it has no probative value. It does not prove anything.
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Especially, it does not prove na nagdadrugs itong si Bongbong Marcos.
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Mga record sa Philippine National Police, yung kanyang record sa PIDEA.
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In fact, na-discharge din siya from service because he was charged for extortion. Inextort daw.
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Tapos, mapakinggan ko rin si Morales. At mapapakinggan niya siya natin mamaya, mga kabatas natin.
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Doon sa susunod nito na ating pag-uusapan, we will talk about him.
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Yung ginawa naman ni Jingoy sa kanya.
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I don't know if we need naman kasi to talk about yung initial interviews niya kung saan napaniwala niya itong si Sen. Bato de la Rosa na totoo yung mga dokumento na yun. Di ba?
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Tignan naman natin mamaya yung kay Jingoy.
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Pero, yun nga eh. It's alright.
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It's all over the place.
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Hindi naman ito sirihan ng credibility eh.
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It's about making a law.
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If we already have laws which we can actually use para yung mga tao, yung nag-leak na PIDEA na yan na document, ating mapanagot, then why not use it?
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Huwag naman kayo. Parang mas productive pa yata kung mga drug dealers or former drug dealers and users ang imbitahan nila dyan para makagawa ng batas eh.
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Alam mo, medyo natatakot ako kasi dyan sa sinasabi mo kayo eh.
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Kasi baka isipin nila yun ang iboto natin.
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Hindi naman siguro, no?
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Kaya lang, alam mo naman yung Pilipinas ngayon, no?
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Meron tayong drought when it comes to, ano, intellectual capacity.
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Yung we are below average when it comes to our mental aptitude.
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Kaya medyo delikado. Delikado yan. Delikado yan.
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Mamaya ako iboto natin to.
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Nasubukan nyo na artista, wala.
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Nasubukan nyo na ito, wala.
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Nasubukan na natin lahat eh.
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Kasi na, iboboto natin nax.
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Allegedly, yung suspect na hindi nila naimbot sa droga.
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So, having said that, kung ace na, sabi mo nga, walang credibility tong si Jonathan Morales,
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and sabi mo, you don't want naman to, syempre, trivialize naman po yung hearing na sinasagawa po niya.
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Yung hearing na sinasagawa po ni Sen. Bato.
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Pero, marami po nagtataka kung bakit nga.
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Ako nga, sinabi ko nga, parang hindi yung ba ito waste of time? Kasi ano, 20...
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It's a waste of time! Come on!
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Five days ago, ini-insist na ni Bato na tama o authentic yung documents.
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So, let's assume that the...
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Ito kasi, no, ganito lang kasimple sana.
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Gagawa tayo ng batas. This is a hearing in aid of legislation.
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Do we need to know the truth? No.
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Let's make hypothetical assumptions.
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If the documents really leaked from PIDEA, what loss can we make?
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If the documents did not leak from PIDEA, what loss can we make? Diba?
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If, for example, the president really is a drug addict, what loss can we make?
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Ganun lang naman eh. Tignan mo lang naman lahat. Diba?
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Maging scientist kayo.
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Twelve pa po ito eh. Tapos, the president enjoys political immunity dahil nga he's the sitting president. So, where, what...
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Malayo din kasi yun eh. You cannot, you cannot use that against the president because it's a mere scrap of paper.
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Even if it's true, it has no probative value.
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May live interview kanina si Diba to.
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Hindi po tayo nag-aakusa or nagkukundi na ng tao for drug using. No.
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Ang atin dito, para makaka-update ng policy. This is in aid of legislation.
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Policy? Ba'ng policy?
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Dagdagan yung punishment, yung penalty doon sa mga tao na gumagawa ng leakage ng mga classified documents. Mayroon tayo...
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Excuse me, sir. Sir.
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Yung pag-i-increase ho ng penalty, that does not prevent a person from doing it.
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But you know, for a fact already naman na, na may batas tungkol doon.
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Do we need to increase it?
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Ngayon, ito already illegal. Sa tingin mo ba? Ito, ito lang tanong ko ha.
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Pag, pag meron bang tao na lalabag sa batas.
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Ah, sandali. Tignan natin yung penalty ha. Tignan natin yung penalty.
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Ah pare, ang labagin na lang natin itong ano. Ano bang gusto mong labagin batas?
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Ah, pare, mag-libel na lang tayo. Bakit? Mas mataas ang penalty ng cyber-libel eh.
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Very good, very good. Good idea.
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O sige, sige. Sino ang ilalabel natin?
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Ipalabas na lang natin yung ano, yung masasamang sinasasabihin natin sa isang tao sa ano?
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Sa, sa, sa jaryo para cyber lang. Ay, para libel lang. Huwag cyber-libel.
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Do they even look at penalties?
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Parang tinigil sila.
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Uy pare, ano to ha?
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Reclusion temporal to ha. Medyo mataas. Doon lang tayo sa prison mayor.
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Sa tingin niyo ba ganun yung mga tao pag gagawa sila ng krimen?
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Pare, anong gagawin natin? Pare, magnanakaw tayo.
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Ah sige. Pare, ang gawin natin ano, theft lang.
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Huwag tayo mag-rubbery.
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O mataas yung penalty ng robbery, pare.
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Ganun ba yung mga kriminal natin? Tumitingin sila doon?
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Yung mga manggagahasan ng tao.
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Sa tingin mo ba tinitignan nila yung penalty?
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O ito, example na lang natin.
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Siyempre, innocent until proven guilty with final conviction.
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Pero magandang example ito.
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Reclusyon perpetua.
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Yung pinakamataas na penalty, yung nakuha ni Denise Cornejo at saka ni...
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Sino yung mga yun?
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Sina Raz at saka ni Cedric Lee et al. Diba?
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Sa tingin mo nung ginawa nila yung krimen na yun?
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Nag-iisip sila kung ano yung penalty na makukuha nila?
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Kunwari lang ginawa nila ha. Hindi ko sinasabing ginawa nila yung krimen yun.
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Pero kunwari lang ginawa nila.
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Inisip ba nila yun?
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Uy yung ginawa natin. Ano yun? Illegal detention.
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Reclusyon perpetua yun.
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Inisip kaya nila yun?
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Baka nag-check pa ng jurisprudence sila. Diba?
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Namamanyak ako pare.
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Talaga? Anong gusto mo?
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Pare, gusto kong mambastos ng babae.
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O sige pare. Hanggang acts of lasciviousness ka lang ha.
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Huwag kang manggagahasa.
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Kasi yung panggagahasa,
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matas ang penalty nun.
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Yung acts of lasciviousness, mababa.
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Kasama ata yun sa pagpaplano nila ng crime. I doubt though.
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Yung dalawang batas na inexistence ngayon,
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penalizing such act, yung
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Graft and Court of Practices at saka yung
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Graft and Court of Practices Act and the
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Code of Ethical Standards,
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Code of Conduct and Ethical Standards of Public Officials and Employees.
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So siguro, wala masyadong, hindi masyadong nagamit yun.
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As far as leakage of classified documents.
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Dahil para bang hindi masyadong kuha yung batas na yun,
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dagdagan natin ng ngipin yung batas.
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Anyway, mga kapatid natin, libat tayo sa kabila.
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Naipagliwanag ko naman na lahat sa inyo.
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Ituloy natin yan mamaya.
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Hindi, bukas siguro.
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Punta tayo dun kay Morales.
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It's very interesting.
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Maraming salamat po at syempre tuloy na lang yung sinasabi.
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Matulog po tayo ng mahimbing dahil alam natin na yung natutulog ng mahimbing,
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siya yung laging panalo.
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Paalam po, pansamat.