01:03.0
Na-forward ko na sa'yo. Kanina nilabas ko naman yung second part kung saan pinag-usapan natin itong mga conspiracy, plots, buludyakan, gano'n.
01:12.5
So let's start with, eto na, si Maricel Soriano. The great Maricel Soriano. Ito na tayo. The best actress of her generation, arguably.
01:22.8
Umaten na ito sa Cote and Co.
01:33.0
Robin Hood, Padilla, yung mga ibang high-level senators nandiyan. Una-una, kailangan bang pumatot si Maricel Soriano?
01:40.7
Tsaka anong basa mo sa performance? Ay, performance. Sagot niya.
01:46.0
Cool naman siya. Inami naman niya. Nasa kanya yung address na nire-refer to.
01:50.9
Pero dinanay niya na merong pat-send.
01:54.6
At sinubukan siya na i-implicate deeper ni Bato by using alleged testimony ng dalawa niyang kasambahay na nanggugulpi daw siya at lumayas daw sila dahil pumagamit daw siya ng cocaine.
02:12.8
Sabi niya, una, may hirap naman niyang gulpihin dahil dalawa sila. Mag-isa lang siya.
02:20.2
Manalo yung sagot eh.
02:24.6
So, doon na natigil.
02:29.3
Nagtatagal nga siya. Ba't siya pinatawag?
02:31.5
Dahil wala namang corroborating evidence. Wala namang solid evidence or a smoking gun.
02:38.8
Pero dumano pa rin siya. Inakay pa nga siya ni Robin Hood, Padilla.
02:43.3
Hindi member ng committee. Hindi member si...
02:46.9
Anong ka-epal? Anong ka-contribution ni Sir Robin Hood?
02:53.2
Dahil artista siya?
02:55.2
Inakay niya dahil parang nagkaroon sila ng pelikula dati. So, makakilala sila.
03:00.7
Wait, wait, wait. So, Sir Ronald, are you implying na parang sabi Ronald,
03:06.0
wagbigyan mo naman ito si Bato. Kawawa naman. Wala na silang script.
03:09.8
Dumating ka naman kahit pa panong. Patulan mo nang konti. Ganon ba yung vibe sa tingin mo?
03:13.7
Pwede, pwede. Pero baka ayaw din niyang masapina. Ayaw din niyang magaya kikipuloy.
03:20.2
Kaya unang request, eh dumalo na siya kaagad.
03:24.6
Para matapos na. Dahil tingin ko, I doubt kung may susunod pa dyan.
03:29.2
Wala lang mga explosion, eh. Lahat lang naman ay innuendos, eh.
03:33.8
Kaya I doubt kung mayroon pang susunod.
03:37.1
Eto na naman tayo. Ako, you know, mate, believe ako sa mga Duterte na yan.
03:44.3
I mean, Team DDS. Kasi feeling ko, tignan mo ito si Buljak.
03:48.7
Ilan buwan na yung sinasabi ng mga pulveronic videos sila.
03:51.3
Hanggang ngayon, nakahook pa rin yung audience niya.
03:53.9
Even if wala siyang maipakita.
03:56.0
So, I won't be surprised.
03:58.7
Alam mo yung mga Bollywood movie, yung hindi natatapos forever,
04:02.5
hindi na redevelop yung script,
04:04.0
andun pa rin yung mga extra, nabubuhay lahat.
04:07.8
Parang may pagkaganon to, eh.
04:09.5
Paulit-ulit hanapin nila na angle yan para ulit-ulitin nila.
04:11.9
Yes. Pero yung pulveron kasi, hindi nagkaroon ng celebrity ring.
04:16.5
Kaya ang isang purpose ng celebrity ring ay may labas na yung lalabas.
04:21.1
At kung mayroon pang mga dapat ilabas,
04:23.2
eh di makakaroon pa ng mga...
04:24.5
Pero dito parang walang susunod na kabanata.
04:29.7
Walang ganun, eh.
04:31.0
Yung pulveron kasi, naging urban legend, eh.
04:34.5
Dahil wala namang hearing, wala namang lumalabas na video,
04:37.8
naririnig mo lang sa mga rally.
04:40.5
So, talagang kwensyal, nagpatuloy siyang nabuhay.
04:45.2
Pero parang namamatay na rin, eh.
04:48.7
Dahil tuwing sasabihin na may lalabas na, may lalabas na,
04:52.1
wala namang lumalabas.
04:53.2
So, eventually, mapapagod na rin yung mga tao.
04:56.0
Meron ba talaga o wala?
04:57.8
Tapos, dito pa sa hearing na ito, yung first hearing,
05:00.8
binanatan pa ni Maharlika,
05:03.2
yung unang naglabas ng pulveron,
05:05.4
yung unang naglabas nitong PIDEA list,
05:08.5
binanatan pa niya si Bato,
05:10.1
na baka bayad na daw ng Malacanang, no?
05:13.1
So, gumugulo, eh.
05:15.2
Ang nakikita ko nito,
05:16.8
ginugulo mo yung pali, ginugulo mo yung tubig, no?
05:20.0
Ginugulo mo yung tubig, no?
05:23.0
Para matabunan yung ibang mga issues na lumalabas, no?
05:27.5
In a way, parang China, di ba?
05:30.0
Ginugulo nila yung tubig by saying na,
05:32.5
oh, may mga officials sa gobyerno na nakipagkasundo sa kanila, no?
05:36.8
Para pagtakpan yung mas fundamental issue na Sandy Kay,
05:42.1
So, may mga ganong stilo, eh.
05:45.5
Mga communication na...
05:48.2
Parang, parang, kung may false flag,
05:52.1
false done, mga ganon.
05:53.8
May mga ganon, yaya, mga disinformation,
05:56.6
counter-information, psychological warfare strategy.
05:59.2
Pag-usapan natin yung West Philippine Sea, by the way,
06:01.0
kasi parang binubuking ng China si Duterte,
06:03.9
medyo pahamak na sila kay Digong,
06:05.6
at mukhang nag-burn ng bridges itong ambassador ng China.
06:09.3
Pag-usapan natin, kailangan ba,
06:10.7
is it time for China to fire their ambassador here, get a new one?
06:13.8
But bago natin pag-usapan yung mga yan, mga lutong makaw,
06:16.8
balikan natin ito.
06:18.1
Anong, first of all,
06:21.4
ano nga ang tingin niyo sa performance ni Maricel Soriano?
06:26.8
Well, mukhang nasagot naman niya lahat ng mga tanong.
06:29.8
Tapos, mukhang, kaya nga sabi ko,
06:31.6
parang wala namang susunod na kabarata
06:33.2
na lumalabas doon sa hearing, no?
06:36.9
I doubt kung kahit ipatawag siya, dadalo pa siya.
06:40.5
Dahil, wala na, nasagad na, eh.
06:43.0
Nasagad na kung ano yung pag-uusapan.
06:44.8
Tsaka, parang naging ko naman, eh, non-event, eh.
06:48.7
Maliba doon sa mga chismis
06:49.9
na nang-googlepe siya,
06:51.4
nang kasambahay, no?
06:54.7
ang sagot niya ay
06:55.5
nagnakaw yung mga kasambahay,
06:57.2
kaya na pinaalis.
06:58.5
So, yung mga usual bang mga kwento
07:01.0
sa mga movie stars
07:02.0
at yung kanila mga kasambahay at mga alalay, no?
07:06.0
Meron nga akong nabalitaan pa dyan dati, diba?
07:09.5
Pinlansya daw yung mukha, no?
07:11.7
May mga ganyan pa, no?
07:13.2
So, marami mga ganyan.
07:14.2
Cyber libel na yan, cyber libel na yan.
07:17.1
Pero wala namang, wala namang nabubuong kaso, eh.
07:20.1
So, kung wala namang kaso,
07:21.4
at wala namang corroborating witness,
07:24.4
ay ano pang pag-uusapan nyo, no?
07:27.1
Ano pang pag-uusapan nyo?
07:28.1
Kaya I doubt kung mayroon pa susunod na hearing on that.
07:31.0
Ako, ako, Sir Ronald, Don Ronaldo.
07:33.9
Para sa akin, maganda yung mga, ano eh,
07:36.6
yung response ni Maricel.
07:40.1
I mean, very firm.
07:41.1
May pagkasenyora na, mataray na.
07:43.7
Parang, anong pinagsasabi?
07:44.7
Ito kasi si Baton,
07:45.8
parang nagfe-feel na Tito Boy Abunda,
07:48.7
Baton, Abunda, yung mga,
07:49.9
yung mga tanong siya.
07:52.7
na ito ang nangyari sa iyo sa ganitong araw?
07:55.6
Di ba pa yung mga ganon ba si Baton?
07:57.8
Kaso, hindi niya masabi yung the way that Tito Boy says it.
08:01.6
Parang, fina-fast talk niya.
08:03.3
Ano ba ang tingin mo kayo ganito?
08:06.1
Tapos, yung mga parang yung muka ni, ano,
08:07.8
nag-i-roll na lang si Maricel.
08:09.9
Parang, ganda nung response niya.
08:11.7
Para naman, parang ko naman sila gugulpin.
08:14.0
Dalawa-dalawa nga sila.
08:18.3
Ginawa ko pa siya ng caption kanina.
08:22.2
Oo nga, nakita ko nga eh.
08:34.9
Tignan mo, nakataas pa yung kilay niya, no?
08:37.8
Naka-gayon yung shoulder tayo, oh.
08:42.2
Ayan na, cocaine.
08:45.6
Hindi po totoo yan.
08:49.1
Saan mo pinulot yung mga ganyan, Marites?
08:52.4
Totoo na tinugpo.
08:54.4
Ito favorite ko talaga, gangster.
08:56.4
Totoo na tinugpo sila.
08:59.4
Paano ko naman pang nag-booking sa robin sila?
09:07.4
Parang, okay, okay.
09:08.4
Now, the reason I'm asking this, sir Ronald, kasi parang may mga mic drop moments si Maricel, diba?
09:14.4
Parang wala ka na masabi talagang booking na booking si Bato.
09:17.4
Which brings me dito sa...
09:20.4
response naman ni BBM.
09:22.4
Kasi kahapon, tinanong siya about this issue, diba?
09:25.4
Tinanong si BBM ng Philippine Daily Inquirer about itong issue ng itong hearing na ito, Bato.
09:35.4
Bato, Bato sa Langit.
09:36.4
Tapos ang ginawa lang ni BBM, tumawa, tawa lang siya.
09:41.4
Pero yung tawa niya, parang sabi ko, parang delikado itong tawa na ito kasi
09:45.4
ita-caption nila yung tawa niya.
09:48.4
Baka mapamak ba siya?
09:49.4
Baka mapamak ba siya sa tawa?
09:50.4
Yung tawa niya kasi...
09:53.4
Sabi ko, naku sir, baka mapamak ito.
09:58.4
Ito, ito yung nakuha ko nga.
10:01.4
I'm sure si Bull Jack gagawa na ng story niya yung mga ganyan tawa.
10:05.4
Tingnan mo yung tawa niya, oh.
10:07.4
Tingnan mo yung tawa niya.
10:08.4
So, sa tingin mo ba, parang tama ba itong strategy niya na parang
10:14.4
pagtawanan na lang?
10:15.4
Hindi ba magandang pagtawanan na lang?
10:17.4
Tapos meron siyang repost na parang,
10:19.4
oh baka naman yung isa gusto magpatest ng overdose sa fentanyl.
10:25.4
Yung medyo senior na ganon.
10:27.4
Parang nakakaposan ako sa style ni BBM na pagtawanan lang na.
10:32.4
Tapos kung ganyan ang tawa mo, gagawan ka talaga ng kwento niyan.
10:37.4
Tingnan mo naman.
10:40.4
Parang kinabaan ako parang sa kanya.
10:42.4
Parang yung general attitude lang naman niya.
10:44.4
General attitude niya.
10:45.4
Huwag mong patulak.
10:46.4
Tapos pagtawanan na lang.
10:47.4
At usually, yung mga ganyang ambush interview, hindi ka handa eh.
10:53.4
Noong natataningin siya about this issue, di ba?
10:56.4
Tingnan mo naman yung mukha niya.
10:58.4
Tingnan mo yung mukha niya.
11:00.4
Nervyoso yung sa likod niya.
11:04.4
Tingnan mo kung ako yan.
11:07.4
Magmabori ako na gagawa ng kwento yung mga ganyan.
11:12.4
Sasabihin na naman nila Paul Voronik.
11:14.4
Medyo malayo yan.
11:16.4
Doon sa binabalat ni Kwan.
11:24.4
Kung hindi yan mukha lang isang dictator.
11:26.4
Actually, you're right.
11:28.4
Actually, you're right.
11:29.4
That's a good point.
11:30.4
Parang nakaka-disarm siya, di ba?
11:32.4
Parang nakaka-disarm siya.
11:36.4
Kung yun si tatay yan, hindi hinihingiti yun.
11:39.4
So which I think is a perfect segue for our next episode.
11:41.4
Mini-episodes na tayo.
11:42.4
Medyo telenovela.
11:43.4
Medyo ginagaya na rin natin yung kapila.
11:45.4
Gumagawa tayo ng sariling kwento.
11:51.4
Okay, okay, okay.
11:53.4
Ang kamay mo parang okupus eh.
11:55.4
Anong ginagawa dito eh?
11:58.4
Ginugulo yung tubig.
12:00.4
Parang gawain din natin yan.
12:05.4
Sa next mini-episode,
12:06.4
pag-uusapan natin itong
12:08.4
Para sa Bayan Rally.
12:09.4
Protect the Constitution Rally.
12:12.4
Parang napayak na yung mata ko sa kakataon.
12:18.4
Thank you very much, Sir Ronald.
12:20.4
See you in the next, ano,
12:26.4
Kamusta ka naman dyan doon, Ronaldo?
12:33.4
Okay ka, bigar ah.
12:37.4
May political statement dyan?
12:40.4
Papunta siya sa purple.
12:45.4
May shades naman pala.
12:50.4
Ibig sabihin dyan, feminist ka.
12:52.4
Katulad yan ang politika natin.
12:56.4
Nga ten shades naman.
12:57.4
Hindi naman fifty.
12:59.4
Kaya malaro tayo eh.
13:01.4
Ito na, Sir Ronaldo.
13:05.4
Para sa Bayan Rally.
13:06.4
Protect the Flag Rally.
13:07.4
At ito, nag-speech ito si Harry Roque.
13:08.4
Yung paborito mo.
13:09.4
Ito, ito, ito, ito.
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May duda tayo sa kanyang pag-iisip.
13:14.4
May duda tayo sa kanyang pag-iisip.
13:23.4
Parang ayun lang nag-rally si Ikwan eh.
13:27.4
Nung atleta siya hindi nag-rally.
13:28.4
Hindi nga sabi sa rally, diba?
13:29.4
Yung mga pick to pick eh.
13:47.4
Na parang ano po may problema sa mga ganyan kanga.
13:48.4
Annang kasi peace rally.
13:50.4
Ang daming prayer rally.
13:51.4
Nawala ikang prayer.
13:52.4
At sya ka, nawala yung Amon nila.
13:53.4
Ay wala si Imugk draw lead.
13:55.4
Wala rin peace dahil ang gusto.
13:58.4
Withdrawal of support.
14:01.4
Medyo baguhin nila yung...
14:02.4
Bagaruhin nila yung...
14:04.4
... yung minorities.
14:06.4
Parang yung rally nila sa Bulacan na hindi natuloy dahil may humarang daw na sasakyan sa kalsada.
14:12.9
So kung veterano ko sa rally, isang sasakyan na sa kalsada, titigil ka na?
14:17.3
Kasi sir, baka lima lang sila.
14:19.6
Taka yung init. Ang init eh.
14:23.6
Sino bang, kahit kami mga veterano sa rally, hindi naman kami magpapagusta ng 50 degrees.
14:29.7
Medyo matindi-tindi ang labanan dyan.
14:33.4
Sir, sir, sir. So, okay, we can make fun of itong mga rally protest na BBM resigned,
14:41.5
tapos itong mga kacharvan, mga kachatatan ng ex-human rights lawyer na yan.
14:45.5
But, yung beshin mo, beshin mo si Sen. Chilianes, meron siyang kanina, press conference, sabi niya,
14:52.8
eto na talaga, konfirmado na sa loob ng PNP, which was of course heavily politicized during Digong's time.
14:59.4
I mean, this was almost like his personal army.
15:02.1
Konfirmado na na may mga atas.
15:03.4
At may mga attempts to recruit people for potentially, you know, coup attempts or something like that.
15:09.4
Although, I don't, coup ba rin bang tawak kahit police lang involved?
15:12.6
Di ba usually pag coup, military lang inisip mo.
15:14.8
But, okay, let's just say coup involves any security services, right?
15:18.3
Pero, kampante siya na pagdating sa AFP, ang mga sumusulsulit lang dyan ay mga ex-generals at mukhang wala pa rin ng kumagat.
15:26.3
So, mas kampante siya sa AFP kaysa PNP.
15:29.3
Anong basa mo dito? Why would he even come out and say these things?
15:33.4
Kaya naman naman natin behind the scenes. Pero, bakit nagsasabihin yung public ngayon?
15:37.7
Well, una, nakikikita na natin yung scaling up.
15:40.7
Dahil nga ang sabi, June or July, palating na yung ICC.
15:44.3
So, nakikita mo na yung scaling up.
15:46.0
Alam mo ba, itong kila Harry, no?
15:48.5
Nagpaplano sila ng maraming rally, no?
15:52.7
Nagpaplano sila ng maraming hearings, no?
15:54.9
Pero, mukhang lahat, kwan eh, dad, no?
15:58.4
Or, sa salita nga sa kalsada, support.
16:03.4
Kaya, parang hindi sumasabog yung mga pasabog nila.
16:07.8
Yung Pulboron, itong PDEA Leads, no?
16:10.7
Eh, eh, eh, baka.
16:12.6
Itong mga rally sa Bulacan, no?
16:14.5
Ngayon, yung rally sa Senate, no?
16:16.3
Nag-scale up sila eh.
16:17.7
Because they're running out of time.
16:19.4
Kung sakaling lalabas nga yung ICC,
16:22.3
eh, kailangan they have to show massive people on the streets, no?
16:26.5
Dahil, sinong military or police ang sasama sa kanila
16:29.6
kung walang tao sa kalsada?
16:31.8
So, nakikita mo, nag-scale up.
16:33.4
So, you're saying it's a show force to deter, to scare, to intimidate?
16:39.3
Yes, to create triggers, no?
16:41.6
Pero yung triggers nila, parang kinakapos.
16:43.8
On the other side naman, nakita mo, first time,
16:46.7
nag-rally yung mga Marcos loyalists, no?
16:49.9
In support of the ICC, no?
16:52.4
In support dun sa investigation ni Digong.
16:56.9
In support dun sa Warren Tupares, no?
17:01.3
In support dun sa...
17:02.3
Hulihin si Digong ng ICC.
17:04.7
First time yan, ha?
17:06.5
In the red t-shirt.
17:09.8
Oh, the red t-shirt, no?
17:11.3
Ibig sabihin, may scaling up din yung kabila.
17:13.5
And nagpakilala sila as Marcos loyalists.
17:17.8
I'm sorry, I'm cutting you.
17:20.0
Sabayin yan yung statement ni Trillanes.
17:22.6
So, on both sides, may scaling up.
17:24.8
Yun ang sinasabi ko.
17:26.7
Yeah, the mobilization.
17:28.4
Pero kanina, guest namin si Trillanes sa StoryCon,
17:31.0
hindi sumipot si Bato, no?
17:38.7
Hindi niya gusto yung host, no?
17:40.8
Pero si Harry pumatol.
17:43.8
Tapos dumating si...
17:44.6
Eh, si Harry ka rin kulang sa pansin yun, eh.
17:46.9
Kailangan niya na airtime.
17:49.6
Si ko naman, si Trillanes, sumipot.
17:52.1
So, tinanong namin siya.
17:53.8
Ayun na, yung sinasabi mo kanina.
17:56.4
Senator, eh, wala namang sumeseryoso sa pulis.
18:00.6
Kung may coup d'etat.
18:01.5
At ikaw, ah, senator, meron kang masteral at saka doctorate sa mga destabilization at saka coup.
18:09.6
Tatlong ko ba yan? Tatlong ko.
18:12.0
May chance ba ito?
18:13.1
Itong mga sinasabi mo mga pulis.
18:14.6
Sabi naman niya, wala.
18:16.5
Dahil, ah, hindi nga sineseryoso.
18:19.1
Pag wala yung military.
18:20.6
Yung, ah, yung, ah, yung pulis usually sa mga coup, destabilization,
18:25.0
usually mga beat players lang yan, eh.
18:27.3
Unless kasama yung SAC.
18:29.1
Yung Special Action Force.
18:30.6
Dahil meron niyang sariling mga tanke, APC, isang intact group yan, eh.
18:36.9
Yung PNP kasi, paikot-ikot yan, eh. Pahiwa-hiwalay, eh.
18:39.6
So, wala yung cohesion. Yung SAP meron.
18:42.6
Pero even SAP, no, won't be able to launch a coup on their own.
18:47.2
It's usually the military.
18:48.8
Usually, yung mga elites, no?
18:50.9
Yung SWAG, yung, ah, Marines, nila Ariel Carubin, Scout Ranger, nila Danny Lim,
18:57.9
yung SWAG, nila Celiane.
19:00.6
So, usually, mga elite forces sa Navy, no, sa military, no, ang sumasama.
19:06.7
And then, all the others ay nanonood.
19:09.4
At kung may chance of success, tsaka sila sasama.
19:12.2
Pero yung pulis ay hindi siniseryoso dyan, no?
19:15.0
Pero, tingin ko, yung objective ni Sen. Trotillanos,
19:18.9
ipakita na nagpapatuloy itong mga threats, no?
19:23.1
Nagpapatuloy itong mga plots.
19:24.9
At itong mga ito ay nag-scale up dahil palapit na yung ICC.
19:29.2
So, sa ganong klaseng narrative, lahat ito nagiging bahagi, yung pinag-uusapan natin ngayon.
19:35.9
Sir, okay, by the way, thank you for that quite technical discussion in the sense na
19:40.6
within an institution of PNP, may mga ibang units na, you know, are more cohesive than others,
19:46.8
particularly SAF, and ito yung ginamit ng presidente mo, si Pinoy.
19:50.0
And unfortunately, of course, that was a disaster.
19:52.0
I mean, I'll be just honest about it.
19:53.6
One reason na marami na galit sa datamong principal,
19:57.5
the late President Aquino,
19:59.2
but going back to SAF,
20:00.9
probably you know more about SAF than us
20:03.3
because, you know, you have to deal with all of that.
20:05.3
Now, going back to this,
20:07.2
no, I mean, would you think that SAF was politicized after that Mamasapano crisis?
20:11.8
Kasi ang daming grievance and anger, di ba, about how it was handled.
20:14.5
And I interviewed Mayor Magalong about this.
20:17.5
I took his side of things.
20:19.1
I know we are a little bit digressing, but I think this is still a relevant discussion.
20:22.6
Ikaw, anong rin ko dyan, Sir Ronald?
20:23.9
I'm not too sure.
20:25.1
Dahil na-politicize yung military over decades.
20:28.3
Hindi siya na-politicize because of one incident.
20:32.7
Na-politicize yung military since nung panahon ni Marcos.
20:36.4
Na nagkaroon sila ng role beyond their usual professionalism.
20:42.0
At nung nag-launch sila ng mga napakaraming coup against Corrie,
20:46.7
11, you cannot bring back the genie inside the boxes.
20:52.9
So, nagpatuloy na yan.
20:55.6
At yung corruption sa military,
20:57.9
nakakreate ng several layers na naman.
21:01.3
Hindi lang organisasyon, kundi lang politikalization.
21:04.7
So, it took some time.
21:06.8
Hindi ko alam kung yung SAP, because of the Mamasapano incident, can be politicized.
21:11.7
Because kanyan, mahaba ang gestation period dyan.
21:14.8
At saka, depende sa turnover, baka yung mga ibang SAP na nandyan, baka wala na.
21:21.3
Tapos mga bago na yun nandyan.
21:23.1
Because it's almost 10 years na rin.
21:25.3
Di ba? Almost 10 years.
21:27.9
So, yung mga dating involved sa Mamasapano are still there.
21:31.3
I'm not too sure.
21:32.3
It wasn't, again, I'm sorry.
21:34.0
I know we are a bit too speculative here and I put you on the spot.
21:36.8
I just felt it's important to talk about this kasi maganda yung point mo eh.
21:40.1
Na you have to look within the PNP.
21:42.0
They are some, kasi di ba people have all these stereotypes of PNP and all of that with all due respect.
21:46.3
But people forget, they're people like SAF na solid, very commando special forces types.
21:51.2
Now, you cannot underestimate, di ba?
21:53.5
What if, okay, you're right na the Mamasapano event alone may not,
21:57.9
have been enough of a, I don't know, trigger or source of systematic politicization, yung point mo, di ba?
22:03.6
Pero yung six years ni Digong, hindi ba na-politicize yung PNP in terms of promotions,
22:08.3
in terms of scandals, in terms of, I don't know, protection rockets, whatever was going on?
22:13.2
Or parang sabog lang yung situation?
22:16.1
Bakit hindi masyado? Dahil ang focus nila yung tokhang eh.
22:19.3
No? Yung focus nila eh.
22:21.3
There's nothing political about na nalangyay.
22:24.2
Walang ideological trainings or something.
22:27.8
Yung Armed Forces Movement, yung RAM, meron sila mga seminars, no?
22:31.0
Meron sila mga agitation, meron sila mga meetings, meron sila mga...
22:34.6
Indoctrination, indoctrination.
22:36.6
Meron pa sila mga rituals.
22:38.1
Ganun din yung YOU, the Young Officers Union, no?
22:41.4
Soldiers of the Filipino People, SFP.
22:44.1
May mga kanya rin, no?
22:45.4
Yung Magdalo, di ba? Yung Magdalo, meron din sila mga ganyan.
22:49.5
So, wala akong nakikita ganun ngayon sa military at saka sa PNP.
22:57.2
Usually, yung Magdalo, meron sila mga ganyan. So, wala akong nakikita ganun ngayon sa military at saka sa PNP.
22:57.8
So, wala akong nakikita ganun ngayon sa military at saka sa PNP.
22:58.3
Yan yung mga humaharness ng politicalization.
23:01.4
Itong mga organizations na ito.
23:03.4
May mga kompanyo, may mga senyali siya, may mga signs, may mga rituals.
23:07.3
Hindi ako maguulat kung may mga tatok.
23:09.3
Yung apa niya rin, yung isang organization.
23:12.3
Wala akong namamonitor na ganun na nangyayari within the military and the police at this point.
23:18.3
Wala pa yung inyong glasses ko na green.
23:20.3
That's a very good point.
23:22.3
Wala ka rin nakikita ng mga leaders, mga talking heads.
23:25.3
Wala ka nakikita ng mga...
23:26.3
Yung transparent may transparent.
23:27.1
Viber groups. Pinag-uusapan yung problema ng bansa.
23:32.1
Dati kasi namamonitor mo yan eh.
23:34.1
Lalo na ngayon sa panahon ng social media.
23:36.1
So nakikita kang mga indicative signs eh that something is going on.
23:42.1
Ngayon wala nakikita eh.
23:44.1
At yung mga bagay na yan hindi na itatago eh.
23:48.1
Lumalabas yan eh. Sumisingaw yan eh.
23:52.1
So why would Sen. Trillanes make a press conference?
23:57.1
Why would he go public about this?
23:59.1
I mean these are the things we knew behind the scenes.
24:00.1
But why would he go public about this if this is not really a serious threat?
24:04.1
Hindi. Minsan kasi a failed coup, a failed mutiny can be as damaging as a successful one eh.
24:10.1
Lalo na sa investors.
24:12.1
So pwede kasi ang kanyang message is parang sabihin sa kanya,
24:15.1
huwag niyo na ituloy. Alam na namin kayo eh.
24:17.1
Alam na namin kung sino kayo.
24:19.1
So it could be to discourage them.
24:21.1
Na gawin yung gagawin nila.
24:23.1
Dahil marami kasi diyan.
24:25.1
So it could be to discourage yung kanilang karir at yung kanilang pensyon.
24:28.1
Sa rules kasi sa atin, sa military, kahit ikaw ay retired na, pwede ka pang ma-court martial.
24:34.1
At kung ikaw ay na-court martial, pwede rin tanggalin yung iyong pensyon na at this point masyadong malaki.
24:40.1
Numaki yung pensyon ng mga sundalo eh.
24:42.1
Numaki yung pensyon ng mga military officers at mga police officers eh.
24:46.1
So ngayon, pag nalaman mo, teka alam na pala ako.
24:50.1
Will I risk my...
24:53.1
Will I risk my what?
24:55.1
Will I risk my pension?
24:56.1
Na mapupunta sa aking pamilya?
25:02.1
Deterrence strategy yun.
25:04.1
Brands tax ay makakabahan yung iba.
25:06.1
Nakasama sa pagpaplano.
25:08.1
Yung hindi core group.
25:09.1
Yung mga hinahatak nila to join.
25:11.1
Hindi kasing committed yun eh.
25:15.1
Yung mas marami eh.
25:16.1
Baka hindi sumama yun kung malalaman nila na buko na sila.
25:23.1
Sir Ronald, the way I look at it is...
25:26.1
I think all of us can agree na malabo magkaroon ng any substantial coup or something like that.
25:31.1
I'm quite confident about the rank and file.
25:34.1
Not to mention the one on top.
25:35.1
Nevertheless, tama yung point mo eh.
25:37.1
In a sense that baka ang strategy ng kabila is even though alam nila malabo na magsucceed,
25:43.1
the coup attempt will be...
25:45.1
Alam mo yung Chinese expression na, I don't know, kill the chicken to scare the monkey?
25:48.1
Yung something like that?
25:50.1
I'm not sure it's exactly...
25:51.1
You get what I'm saying?
25:52.1
The idea is, kunting fireworks, baka matakot ito si kuting...
25:56.1
Itong si Marcos, di ba?
25:57.1
I mean, that's my point eh na baka naman because they underestimate Marcos, they think
26:02.1
that all you need is just a attempt, right?
26:05.1
Some fireworks and that will be enough.
26:07.1
Now, what you're saying, Trillianes is coming in and saying, don't even try it.
26:11.1
You're already under the laser.
26:13.1
You're under spotlight.
26:14.1
You make a little bit mess, you're gonna lose everything, di ba?
26:17.1
It's not even worth it.
26:18.1
Even the fireworks, it's not gonna work and you're gonna lose everything.
26:21.1
So, don't do anything stupid.
26:23.1
So, I see what's happening here, yeah.
26:26.1
Yung isa kang tanong ko kay Trillianes kanina, baka naman maging desperate sila dahil hindi
26:32.1
posible ang impeachment, hindi posible ang people power, uprising, tapos hindi rin posible
26:39.1
Baka may gawin sila along the lines ng sinabi ni Mayor Bastet, the Romanov threat, the Mussolini
26:48.1
Sabi naman ni Sanim.
26:50.1
Bukang nag-iingat naman yung...
26:55.1
Bolshevik pa sila?
26:57.1
For lack of a better term, assassination.
26:59.1
Medyo crazy, crazy point yun.
27:00.1
Tapos kadikit, tinanong ko rin siya, tingin mo ba Senator, itong mga plots na ito ay merong
27:06.1
Eh, very clear naman yung sagot niya, oo.
27:08.1
Meron itong foreign funding.
27:09.1
Hindi lang niya binanggit kung sino, pero alam naman na lahat kung ano yung nare-refer niya.
27:12.1
Di sana tinanong ko.
27:13.1
Hindi naman naman naman.
27:14.1
Hindi naman naman naman.
27:15.1
Hindi naman naman naman.
27:16.1
Di sana tinanong, Sir, ano yung, ano yung...
27:18.1
Sana tinanong na lang niya, Sir, ano po yung currency?
27:21.1
Doon mo mabuking.
27:22.1
Hindi ito euro, no.
27:24.1
Hindi ito dollar.
27:27.1
Doon, doon, magkakaalaman na.
27:29.1
Kung lutong makaw to or hindi.
27:30.1
I think that perfectly sets the tone for our next episode.
27:31.1
Kasi I wanna talk also about, oy, hindi ko sinasabi naman kinalaman, pero pag-uusapan natin
27:36.1
ang China at saka Philippines at West Philippine Sea.
27:42.1
Totally unrelated.
27:44.1
Kahit datid lines, wala yan.
27:47.1
Random in the air.
27:48.1
Maraming salamat, Sir Ronald.
27:49.1
Parang ganda ng discussion natin talaga.
27:50.1
May Ph.D. ka rin pala in Cudeta eh.
27:51.1
Akala ko si Trillanes.
28:07.1
Kaya talaga naging Political Affairs secretary ka talaga ni Aquino.
28:10.2
Alam na alam mo yung mga internal eh.
28:12.7
Yung mga pakulo...
28:30.1
Thank you very much.
28:31.1
Ganda ng discussion ha.
28:35.1
Pag-usapan na natin ito.
28:36.1
Dugong, mga ganun.
28:37.7
Sir Ronald, bago natin pag-usapan
28:39.4
itong China, Lutong, Macau,
28:41.5
yung mga ganyan-ganyan, mga new model
28:43.3
agreement. First of all, don't you
28:45.3
find it a bit strange that
28:47.4
loyalists are talking about
28:49.1
ICC, accountability, justice?
28:52.2
And then, don't you find
28:53.4
it interesting that the DDS side,
28:55.4
in the person of ex-human rights
28:57.3
lawyer Harry, saying that
28:58.7
yung mga corruption
29:01.2
ng panon ni Marcos, we have to fight for.
29:03.6
We're in a dictatorship, di ba?
29:07.0
Constitution? Sa ligang batas!
29:13.5
Ano to? I mean, this is crazy!
29:16.7
This is cuckoo land!
29:18.1
Hindi ko alam mas crazy ito, or yung
29:20.1
hearing nila bato with Maricel and all.
29:24.6
house of cards, Philippine version, no?
29:30.7
At least, yung house of cards
29:33.2
coherence. Ito, walang coherence, eh.
29:37.3
Kaya nga sabi ko, I think the right word is
29:41.1
Medyo sabog. Medyo, medyo, ano,
29:43.3
sumasabay tayo sa...
29:46.4
Salet Lillanes, kanina,
29:49.1
sa interview namin sa kanya,
29:50.8
eh, sa Pilipinas kasi,
29:53.5
there's such a thing as chamba.
29:55.5
Baka may makachamba.
29:56.7
Ah, right, right, right.
29:58.9
Throw something until it sticks.
30:00.7
Oo, yeah. Yung batokan ng batok.
30:03.2
Oo, di ba? Baka naman.
30:04.3
Baka may isang makachamba, di ba?
30:07.2
Lalo na kung hindi naman
30:08.6
gano'ng kagaling yung binabato mo.
30:11.4
Kaya nga, sir, ang tawag dyan,
30:12.9
baka naman, di ba?
30:14.3
Ang tawag dyan, baka naman.
30:15.5
Or ang tawag dyan,
30:19.3
Alam mo ba yung perdigana?
30:22.3
Sa checkers kasi,
30:23.7
di ba, last man standing
30:26.9
Dito sa perdigana,
30:29.0
the last man standing ay talo.
30:31.7
I mean, papakain mo yung pan mo,
30:33.2
papakain mo yung mga checkers mo, so.
30:35.2
The last one with the bag,
30:36.7
left with the bag to pay.
30:37.9
Oo, I see, I see.
30:39.9
Oo, who makes the most mistakes?
30:43.6
So, speaking of who makes the most mistakes,
30:47.0
talagang okay tayong co-host, no?
30:48.8
Yung mga transitions natin, ang ganda.
30:50.8
Picking on each other.
30:53.1
Speaking of making mistakes,
30:55.1
it looks like the Chinese ambassador in Manila
30:58.3
might soon get the award of the worst envoy
31:01.3
in the history of...
31:02.3
of bilateral relations.
31:03.8
I mean, this guy is burning bridges right and left.
31:06.6
So, just the other day,
31:11.0
of course, matapang yan ngayon.
31:12.3
Very West Philippine siya ngayon.
31:13.8
Hindi ko alam yung sinasabi niya.
31:14.8
Parang hindi ko...
31:15.3
Anyway, next topic.
31:17.0
Sabi niya, wala na daw dapat communications
31:19.8
dito sa mga Chinese embassy niya.
31:21.5
Kasi labang kausap.
31:22.5
They released mga kung ano nang hanash.
31:24.9
May marites sila na.
31:26.0
May new model of agreement.
31:27.6
Well, ito, ito, legit.
31:28.9
Galit na galit ito si National Security Advisor
31:32.1
So, Anio, who's seen as really the adult in the room
31:34.5
as far as the Marcos administration is concerned.
31:36.7
DFA, mabait kasing DFA eh.
31:39.1
Pero, galit din sila.
31:40.5
So, what the heck is China doing?
31:42.6
First, nag-release sila itong gentleman's agreement
31:44.8
ng sinasabi nila.
31:46.6
Parang lalo nagalit ang Pilipinas
31:48.6
at lalo napaya si Digong
31:50.0
kasi na-implicate si Digong.
31:51.7
At ngayon, di ba, magkakahiring na sa Congress.
31:54.2
Sabi ni Romualdez, binudul tayo.
31:56.2
So, I mean, Romualdez is picking on this.
31:58.6
So, what the heck is China opting?
32:00.6
I mean, desperation mode ba ito?
32:02.6
But I don't understand what's going on.
32:04.6
This ambassador is nothing like the previous ambassador.
32:08.3
Magaling yung previous ambassador nila eh.
32:10.3
What's going on with this guy?
32:12.3
May political sophistication yun.
32:14.3
Ito kasi karir eh.
32:16.3
So, medyo mababaw politically.
32:19.3
At saka, I doubt kung may lalim din siya ideologically.
32:23.3
Si Ambassador Zhao kasi, sabi nga ni Digong,
32:27.8
ay military intelligence.
32:29.8
Pero, si Ambassador Zhao,
32:32.1
nag-aral yan sa US.
32:36.1
So, na-deploy yan sa Mexico.
32:38.1
George Washington University.
32:40.1
Na-deploy yan sa Mexico.
32:42.1
Na-deploy yan sa Afghanistan.
32:44.1
Na-deploy yan sa mga trouble spots.
32:48.1
Ibig sabihin, medyo defining.
32:50.1
At mukhang hindi lang siya simpleng karir.
32:52.1
You can talk with him about Sun Tzu.
32:54.1
You can talk with him about Confucius.
32:56.1
You can talk to him about Mao.
32:58.1
And the classics.
33:00.1
Ibig sabihin, may ideological.
33:05.9
Yung limited time na nakasama ko siya.
33:08.9
Nagsalita kami dati niya.
33:10.9
Pinaliwanag ko ang dialectical materialism
33:12.9
tsaka historical materialism.
33:13.9
Nag-aaral yan sa Manchester.
33:15.9
School nila niyan.
33:16.9
Engels tsaka Marx yan.
33:18.9
Pinaliwanag ko sa kanya.
33:20.9
Sabi ko, we should look at events in China
33:23.9
from a dialectical perspective.
33:25.9
So, yung audience medyo nahirapan.
33:27.9
Pago sa kanila yan.
33:29.9
So, alam ko medyo hindi siya ganun kalalim ideologically.
33:34.9
Itong ambassador na ito.
33:35.9
At dahil karir siya, medyo exposure niya sa political battles hindi ganun kalawak o kalalim.
33:42.9
Alimawa, itong kanyang nilabas na new model.
33:46.9
Ito ay, ang naglabas nito hindi yung foreign affairs ng China.
33:50.9
Ang naglabas nito yung embassy.
33:53.9
So, ang audience nila ay yung dito.
33:57.9
Yung mga mamayan sa Pilipinas.
33:59.9
Ibig sabihin, mali.
34:00.9
Mali yung messaging.
34:02.9
Pag narinig mo kasi yung foreign ministry ng China,
34:06.9
ang kanilang audience are the Chinese people.
34:09.9
Yun yung kanilang audience.
34:11.9
Ikakalat siyang sa China.
34:12.9
Parang ipakita nila.
34:13.9
Yung mga boss nila sa China.
34:16.9
We're fighting the West.
34:20.9
We'll take no shit from anybody.
34:24.9
Eh kaso, pag embassy ang naglabas,
34:26.9
ibig sabihin ang audience nila Pinoy.
34:29.9
Pero yung nilabas nila parang mali.
34:31.9
Dahil alam naman ng lahat, alam din naman ng embassy,
34:34.9
na pag may nakausap sila ng militar,
34:37.9
lalo na kung mga low ranking like lieutenants, captains,
34:41.9
wala naman niyang power para gumawa ng agreement.
34:45.9
Wala naman niyang power para gumawa ng treaty.
34:48.9
Foreign affairs lang yung tsaka presidente.
34:51.9
Kaya nung sinabi nila na may nakausap sila ng mga,
34:54.9
ilang mga military people, mga tao from the government,
34:59.9
alam naman nila what was the objective.
35:01.9
Dahil alam naman nila clearly na walang arrangement ang mabubuo
35:07.9
with anybody in government, with anybody in military.
35:11.9
It should be the foreign affairs or the president himself.
35:15.9
Kaya nga sumagot ka agad si Anyo at saka si Guibo.
35:19.9
Ano bang kinuka nyo? Ano bang pinagsasabi nyo?
35:23.9
Kaya sila rin yung nagsabi na ginugulo yung issue
35:26.9
dahil ang putok na issue ngayon ay yung sand decay 1 and 2,
35:31.9
1, 2 and 3 na apparently very fundamental.
35:35.9
Dahil kung magtayo sila dyan, binubuhusan nila ng dead corals
35:39.9
para mag-create ng mataas na high water mark.
35:44.9
Pag high tide, above the water siya.
35:48.9
Pwede nilang gamitin yan as to assure their territorial...
35:52.9
To bump further yung kanilang territorial sea.
35:57.9
At i-undermine yung pag-asa, yung territorial water ng pag-asa.
36:01.9
So very fundamental yan.
36:03.9
Ang sinasabi dahil pumuputok yan ay ginugulo nila yung tubig.
36:08.9
Minamodel nila yung issues.
36:11.9
I doubt kung yun ang kanilang ginagawa dahil that entails some bit of sophistication
36:18.9
na tingin ko wala yung Chinese ambassador.
36:22.9
Ito Ronald, thank you for raising that.
36:25.9
Tomorrow actually kausapin ko si Jay Batumbacal naman.
36:28.9
So we'll go into the nitty-gritties of this technicalities, sand decay, what's going on.
36:31.9
Medyo palaban din yung isa eh.
36:33.9
Pag-usapan natin ito kasi ang sense ko Ronald is dahil very successful si Zhao
36:39.9
at ang basa ng China, siguro yung mga pinapakinggan nila yung mga nag-forum-forum dyan,
36:44.9
akala nila they got na the Philippines.
36:46.9
Ang kutop ko, itong pinadala nilang ambassador na amateur out there,
36:48.9
ang kutop ko itong pinadala nilang ambassador na amateur out there, ang kutop ko itong pinadala nilang ambassador na amateur out there,
36:49.9
ang kutop ko itong pinadala nilang ambassador na amateur out there,
36:51.9
was really not up to the task.
36:53.9
Na totally unprepared siya for this shift in the Philippine foreign policy.
36:57.9
Kaya talikang kitang-kitang mo nagsascramble siya eh.
37:00.9
Mukhang desperate mo dito eh.
37:02.9
At first, parang una pala yung ang dami niyang mga sablay.
37:06.9
Di ba naalala mo yung, our shared sea?
37:10.9
Yung gumawa pa siya ng kanta tapos sila ay-idol sa alas.
37:14.9
Yung naging most disliked YouTube video.
37:24.9
Sobrang sablay talaga siya.
37:25.9
So this guy is burning bridges right and left.
37:28.9
Nagamaling sila ng basa dahil nakala nila may continuity.
37:32.9
Naniniwala sila doon sa continuity narrative nung Marcos Duterte Sleith,
37:37.9
nung Marcos Duterte victory ng 2022 elections.
37:42.9
Magpapong charger ko ng laptop ng maling na charger.
37:45.9
Tapos na, pati sila nasupress eh.
37:46.9
Dahil ang tingin nila kay Marcos, more pro-China than the Duterte.
37:48.9
Danda Duterte. Dahil palahong pa lang nung itong past 40 years, very close sila sa Marcoses. Regular na pumunta ng China ang mga Marcoses.
38:03.4
Nung senador si BBM, ang dalas nila sa China. Kasama niya yung kanyang kaibigan si Joseph Tan, na kung hindi namatay sa COVID, yun yung clearly magiging executive secretary ni BBM.
38:20.2
Pero yan, balik-pasok sila sa China. Yung law firm na most, Marcoses, Ochoa.
38:33.4
Si Rapio Tan, siya yung key. Namatay siya because of COVID. So, yun yung lagi niyang kasama. Si Aimee Ren, madalas din niya sa China.
38:48.3
Doon ko lang nakita yung Chinese Embassy na nag-organize ng exhibit sa Chinese Embassy itself para sa mga Marcoses.
38:59.0
Naalala ko yung picture-picture pa niya.
39:01.1
But my point is...
39:02.7
But that's the point. Kung magaling kang diplomat, you can adjust.
39:08.5
Ito, one-shift gear lang siya. Hindi siya nakaka-adjust sa reality.
39:12.8
I mean, Ronald, what the heck? Why would you release these kinds of supposed secret documents?
39:19.7
Kasi ang nilalabas mo dito, dalawa. Pinapaya mo yung aliado mo or proxy mo or mga muchacha mo.
39:26.4
Pangalawa, ang pinapakita mo, puro mga secret-secret ginagawa niyo.
39:30.9
So actually, parang, di ba, mafioso.
39:32.7
Like, you're showing na software, hindi kayo legit, na puro mga dodgy, shady, sketchy.
39:39.7
I just don't know how is this gonna make China look any better.
39:42.8
Well, baka ako na sila eh. Baka they're also desperate.
39:46.2
They're clutching at straws. Parang, ano bang gagamitin namin laban sa mga ito?
39:53.8
Baka kung nila, ito na yung huli nilang ace eh. Ito na yung huli nilang alas.
40:00.6
Dati kasi hindi nila binabanggit, di ba?
40:02.7
Sabi lang nila, ganito-ganito, merong mga kasunduan, merong mga arrangement.
40:06.9
Pero wala kasi nang sinasabi ng mga secret documents.
40:09.6
Ngayon, nilalabasan nila lahat eh.
40:12.2
Literally, they're throwing the baby with the bathwater.
40:15.3
No? Yan ang ginagawa nila ngayon, di ba?
40:18.0
They're throwing the kitchen sink, they're throwing the refrigerator.
40:22.4
It's also amazing to watch them eh, in their desperation, di ba?
40:26.2
Tapos eh, yung binuupa nilang movement against war.
40:31.1
Mamamaya, kontra... kontragera.
40:34.5
Ang kinuha ko pa nila mga talking heads eh, hindi ko kukunin sa student council ko yung sa college eh.
40:39.4
Yung mga yun, ikaw ba kukunin mo sa student council?
40:41.0
Hindi ko sila kukunin.
40:42.8
Kahit yung replacement sa student radio.
40:45.7
Alam mo mga student radio, hindi ko sila kukunin para sa replacement ng weekend.
40:51.2
Student council ko sa UST, magagaling yung mga kwento na.
40:54.5
Magagaling yung mga...
40:55.6
Magagaling yung mga cowardies, no?
40:58.1
Magagaling yung mga tao ko noon sa UST.
41:01.1
Di ba, minsan may exam yung mga estudyante.
41:03.1
Pagkakita ko, idiots na yan, no?
41:04.2
Sir Ronald, di ba, minsan may exam yung mga estudyante, yung mga journalist na estudyante.
41:07.7
Siyempre, may replacement nga hanapin.
41:09.1
Hindi ko pa rin sila kukunin.
41:10.5
Kahit weekend to, kahit walang nakikinig.
41:12.7
Kahit yung mga pamilyarang nila nakikinig.
41:15.6
Kasi di ba sabi ni Lord de Vera, nung nasa RPN daw sila, yung family daw lang nilang nanonood, 12 daw yung viewers nila.
41:23.5
So, hindi ko kahit ganun, hindi ko sila kukunin.
41:26.1
Si Lord, patulad ko yan.
41:28.3
Flame Editor yan, at saka Barcetarian Editor.
41:31.1
Oo nga, Oster yung pala siya, no?
41:33.4
Si Christian, Barcetarian Editor yan, no?
41:37.6
Pare-pangas kami ng college yung toko na.
41:38.8
Urap, mafia pala kayo, eh. Mafia kayo.
41:41.3
Si Jim Gomez, Glenda Gloria, no?
41:45.0
Baka yun, same college kami lahat yan, no?
41:47.3
Wow, mafia pala kayo.
41:48.3
Nakiklose ko yan, eh, nung college.
41:50.5
Bakit kaibigan ko kayo? Bakit naging kaibigan tayo?
41:55.3
Siguro nabahiran ka ng kaunting walamin, kaunting lunacy.
42:01.1
Akala ko, akala na mga taga-UP, Ateneo ako kasi konyotik daw ako.
42:06.1
Pero hindi na lang, mas trip ko yung mga taga-Oster.
42:09.1
Kasi ang kulit-kulit natin pa rin, ikaw si Lord Rivera.
42:12.1
Wala, madalas ako mapagkama ng UP, eh.
42:14.1
Ikaw, ikaw UP ako, Ateneo.
42:17.1
Ili-insulto niyo ba ako?
42:19.1
Buti na lang, wala, buti na lang wala ko.
42:22.1
Buti na lang, wala nagkakakala sa akin na Atenista.
42:26.1
Grabe, grabe, grabe, grabe.
42:28.1
Oye, by the way, hindi ito kakamping ka.
42:30.1
Germany ito ha, Deutschland ito.
42:32.1
Ito, Deutschland.
42:34.1
Deutschland, Deutschland.
42:35.1
Bakit ka nagpapaliwanag?
42:36.1
Hindi, defensive ako kasi.
42:39.1
Hindi ka bumatsa sa pulis magpaliwanag.
42:41.1
Hindi, kasi sa next episode, pag-usapan natin ang oposisyon.
42:45.1
So, kailangan ko lang mag-defensive.
42:48.1
Ayan, Oster rin pala si Ma'am Jocelyn, yung mga followers natin.
42:51.1
Ito pala, malapit ang puso ko sa mga Oster, hindi ko alam bakit.
42:56.1
Hindi ko alam kung malapit ang puso niyo sa akin,
42:58.1
pero yung puso ko malapit sa inyo.
43:00.1
Baka one-way highway lang ito. Thank you very much.
43:03.1
Alam mo ba dati, lasal ka eh.
43:05.1
Lasal ako, nagtuturo. Pero yung pagkakonyo ko, more Ateneo, tsarot.
43:09.1
Thank you very much, Sir Ronald.
43:11.1
At next episode naman, pag-usapan natin ng konti si Marcos,
43:14.1
pero more importantly, ang oposisyon.
43:16.1
Just to be clear, hindi ito pink. May levels yan, medyo iba-ibang kulay.
43:22.1
Mukhang ire-denounce ka naman ng pink eh.
43:27.1
Parang nung nag-post ako,
43:30.1
mga nagla-like yung mga DDS at saka loyalist, hindi ko alam bakit.
43:35.1
Hindi ako sinisupport ng mga katampings, hindi ko alam bakit.
43:40.1
Feeling ko dahil sa'yo yan eh. Nung nagsama tayo, lalo silang nabusit sa akin.
43:45.1
At tatawa nga ako eh. Pag yung politi-scoop ko, pag-critic sa go-go,
43:52.1
ginagamit nila balat may.
43:55.1
Pag balat naman kayo, hindi ko ginagamit naman ng mga BGM Black.
43:59.1
Mga BGM vlogger, sabi ko.
44:01.1
O kaya itsura ko nito.
44:03.1
Sabi ko na mama ko, kasi yung algorithm na minsan, hindi ko alam kung anong vlogger lumalabas.
44:09.1
Di ba yan ang sinasabi nyo ni Ronald?
44:11.1
Mas ginagahe lang nato kayo.
44:14.1
At pinis, ginagawa na ni BBM yung sinasabi natin last year pa.
44:18.1
Nagbubuo na siya ngayon ng ruling coalition.
44:20.1
Pag-uusapan natin sa next episode.
44:22.1
Pinapalakas na nila yung kanyang partido federal.
44:25.1
On that note, thank you very much Sir Ronald.
44:30.1
Kasi alam nyo tayo.
44:33.1
Hindi ako kakampink.
44:36.1
Thank you very much.
44:37.1
Talk to you soon.
44:39.1
Ustek yung lahat.
44:43.1
Just before we start this episode, let me have a disclaimer.
44:47.1
It's a multicolored, Deutschland, bestseller nilang uniform ito.
44:53.1
So maraming salamat.
44:54.1
Maraming salamat sa designers and everyone na support na sila.
44:57.1
We are the ones na support na sa atin para ma-afford natin mga shirts na ganyan.
45:02.1
Sir Ronald, ito na.
45:04.1
Pag-usapan natin ang opposition.
45:07.1
Mukhang mangyari na to talaga itong big bang.
45:10.1
Yan lang ang tawag ko ngayon.
45:12.1
Mukhang mangyari na itong big bang na ito.
45:14.1
That could create, in a physics world, a new reality in universal possibilities.
45:21.1
But before going there,
45:23.1
pag-usapan natin ng konti si Marcos.
45:25.1
You think we are being a bit unfair to Marcos?
45:28.1
You think Marcos playing this kind of kuting style,
45:31.2
pero tigre talaga siya behind the scenes?
45:33.1
I mean, because parang everything is coming together against the Dutertes.
45:36.9
They keep on shooting themselves.
45:38.1
I mean, as Napoleon said, right?
45:39.2
When your enemy is making a mistake,
45:41.2
the last thing you want to do is to interrupt them.
45:43.2
So maybe BBM is being correct.
45:44.9
Maybe I'm being unfair.
45:46.0
Maybe I'm being more Ilocano than him by going Gabriela Silang and all, di ba?
45:51.7
What is your read on Marcos before we talk about the opposition?
45:54.2
Kasi Grand Coalitions, ganoon na naman ang usapan ngayon, di ba?
45:59.6
Well, ano nga ba yun?
46:01.6
To paraphrase Shakespeare.
46:03.5
Ayan na naman tayo.
46:04.5
From Churchill ka ngayon, Shakespeare ka.
46:07.2
Some are born brave.
46:10.1
Some achieve bravery.
46:12.7
And some have bravery thrust into them.
46:15.2
Greatness sings kay Shakespeare.
46:17.8
Greatness yung pinaparaphrase.
46:18.2
Greatness yung pinaparaphrase.
46:19.4
So perhaps bravery is now being thrust into him.
46:22.9
Because his party.
46:24.2
He's waiting for survival.
46:25.9
Yan ang nangyayari ngayon eh.
46:27.1
Kaya tapos, andiyan pa yung mga ganitong klase mga lunatics, no?
46:33.5
Katulad nitong Big R, no?
46:35.9
Na laging pinapaalala sa kanya, yung kanyang kahinaan, no?
46:39.3
So eventually, eventually, this will rub off, rub on him eh.
46:44.6
Wait lang, yung asawa niya.
46:46.4
Wait lang, bakal muna din.
46:48.8
Doon nga akong papunta, no?
46:49.5
Doon nga akong papunta na unang nakarealize yung asawa niya.
46:52.9
Hindi mo pagkakatiwalaan ito.
46:55.4
Bibigyan mo ng kwanto, ng puwang, they will destroy us.
46:59.1
So, let us call a spade a spade.
47:01.9
Yan ang una na yung asawa niya.
47:03.5
Pero baka mas matagal yung gestation period sa isang risk-averse, passive-aggressive na tao.
47:10.4
Kaya baka medyo nauhuli siya.
47:12.1
Pero kahit nauhuli, baka humahabol na.
47:14.6
Halimbawa, ayirag ko pa natin sinasabi na wala kang ruling party na maayos.
47:20.3
Wala kang ruling coalition.
47:22.1
Wala kang mga cabinet na nag-e-stand.
47:24.2
Wala kang mga strategies, campaign manager, operators na nakikita.
47:30.1
So, unti-unti, binubuo na rin niya.
47:34.7
Limba, pinapalaki niya yung Partido Federal.
47:37.7
Pero parang kulang pa.
47:40.0
Tapos sabi niya, magbubuo na ng ruling coalition.
47:46.8
Pero wala yung laban, yung kila ERAP, kila BNAI, yung...
47:57.0
Oo, baka yan naman ay mga initial names.
47:59.6
Ang wala na dyan, yung hugpong.
48:04.0
Yung hugpong, no?
48:05.0
Yung PDP talagang hindi sasama.
48:06.0
Talagang hindi talaga, oo.
48:07.3
Pero yung hugpong kasi, bahagi...
48:09.1
Yung head ng hugpong, bahagi ng official family, eh.
48:12.1
So, it's a statement.
48:13.5
Kung yan na hindi sasama sa ruling coalition, it's a clear statement.
48:18.1
Na yung member ng official family, yung kanyang partido na hini-head,
48:24.6
Ay hindi trustworthy.
48:26.3
At dahil hindi trustworthy, baka yung head, hindi rin trustworthy.
48:30.8
Baka yung head, sabi nga ni First Lady, ay bad shot na at cross the line.
48:38.1
So, ano yung mga implications dyan?
48:40.2
1 plus 1 equals 2 equals 4 equals 8.
48:45.0
Sabaga, yung isang matematik sa Pilipinas.
48:47.2
1 plus 1 equals 3.
48:51.7
Kasi dialectical mag-isip ang Pinoy.
48:53.9
O, iba yung mathematics dito, eh.
48:55.6
Iba yung matematik pala, eh.
48:57.8
Ito lang, Sir Ronald.
48:58.7
Hindi tayo Euclidean, eh.
48:59.8
Hindi tayo Euclidean.
49:00.8
Sir Ronald, kilala mo ba to?
49:04.2
Biglang lumalabas algoritm ko.
49:07.8
Parang kailangan natin i-play me to.
49:10.0
Meron palang editorial si Teddy Locsin sayo, yung AK-47 mo.
49:15.9
Hindi ka marilig.
49:19.8
Sabi ko, lumabas sa ano ko bigla, itong memo kay Llamas.
49:25.8
Patang bata ka pa dito, Sir, ha?
49:27.9
Guwapong-guwapo natin, ha?
49:29.2
May buhok pa kaya.
49:30.0
Talagang narcos na narcos ang dating natin.
49:32.9
Tapos meron ka pang teddy-torial na inatakta ni Teddy Locsin.
49:36.1
Oo, binanata naman yung teddy niya, no?
49:37.4
Binanata naman yung teddy niya.
49:39.0
Yung akin, AK-47, binanata niya.
49:43.0
Sa tingin mo ba ito si Teddy Casino?
49:45.4
Ay, Teddy Casino.
49:46.1
Sorry, Teddy Locsin.
49:47.1
Kailangan ba yan?
49:47.9
Pahiring din yan doon sa gentleman's agreement?
49:50.4
Kasi foreign secretaryon, di ba?
49:55.2
Apat ang foreign secretaryon ni Digong at that time, eh.
50:01.3
Hindi na pwede ipatawag.
50:04.9
Ay, wala si Manalo din temporarily, tama ka?
50:08.8
Buka siya yung secretary of foreign affairs doon sa secret agreement.
50:16.9
Manalo interim do.
50:19.0
Nadistract lang ko ba dito sa algorithm.
50:21.7
Balikan natin ito.
50:23.8
you're absolutely right.
50:25.2
I made exactly the same comment.
50:26.2
It's not sinong kasama sa koalisyon,
50:28.7
it's sinong hindi kasama sa koalisyon.
50:31.7
hukbong is really a Sarah Duterte's creation, right?
50:34.2
Without Sarah, there's hukbong, right?
50:38.0
Yung buhabakalat kay Ben Batalbares,
50:40.1
tinanggal nila sa hukbong,
50:45.2
clearly pro-Digong,
50:47.8
clearly anti-BBM,
50:55.1
So, ano ba bang hahanapin ni BBM?
50:57.8
Ano ba bang hahanapin niya?
51:00.6
can hukbong be a force
51:03.2
without Duterte's being in power?
51:06.6
Wala nga confidential phone.
51:08.0
Wala nga anything.
51:08.9
Hindi ko sinasabi na ginagamit ng confidential phone.
51:11.6
wala silang resources eh.
51:15.3
May mga foreign friends na magpapadala.
51:16.9
Ay, wala akong sinasabi dyan.
51:18.8
Wala akong sinasabi.
51:19.1
Magpapadala ng tulong.
51:20.3
So, magpapadala ng kwan.
51:22.7
anong currency po yan?
51:24.1
Hindi naman euro yan or,
51:32.0
Hindi naman yan rupya.
51:38.3
Hindi dirham yan.
51:43.0
pwede siguro rupels.
51:45.8
Kasa wala nang bumibili ng rupels eh.
51:47.9
Medyo rubels na siya eh.
51:50.3
Medyo rubels na siya.
51:57.4
Pasa bumaba yung value ng Bitcoin eh.
51:59.9
Hindi mo siya nandang matrace.
52:03.1
nung panahon ni D.Cog,
52:04.0
may ginawa silang pan eh,
52:07.8
Para pwedeng pumasok yung Bitcoin
52:09.8
sa ating mga export processing zones.
52:12.9
I didn't know that.
52:14.2
dahil mo alam mga gan,
52:15.2
dapat ikaw pala yung interview ko,
52:16.4
hindi si Kristan eh,
52:18.3
Sabi nung aking mga IT experts,
52:20.7
for money laundering,
52:22.4
But in North Korea,
52:24.3
nung panahon ng previous government,
52:27.2
CESA at saka PESA.
52:31.6
Philippine Friendship Association
52:34.0
ay dating head ng CESA.
52:37.9
wala naman akong naisipahihwating,
52:39.9
Wala naman akong,
52:41.1
wala rin akong sinasabi,
52:42.3
pero ito ba yung panahon
52:43.4
na maraming pogong pumasok?
52:47.1
wala tayong sinasabi ah.
52:48.7
it's total random coincidence.
52:50.4
Just shooting the air,
52:51.5
Just shooting the air,
52:53.9
Wala tayong pinapakita
52:55.4
Baka rin ang mga tao
52:56.3
kung may makikita
52:57.0
silang connection.
52:58.5
Speaking of connection,
52:59.7
i-connect na natin sa opposition.
53:01.3
Baka na naman sasabihin nyo na,
53:02.3
nag-a-apply naman tayo
53:04.6
Ang sama na nga tingin
53:06.0
nung executive secretary
53:09.1
Ina-apply mo natin
53:10.1
ang trabaho niya.
53:11.7
Magandang opportunity
53:12.8
ito sa opposition,
53:14.9
sabi ng mga surveys,
53:16.1
ay bumababa pareho
53:17.9
at saka yung Marcos.
53:19.3
Sabi ng mga surveys,
53:23.2
nagahanap ng alternative.
53:27.6
at saka sa Marcos.
53:28.9
At meron kang 15%
53:32.7
kailangan mag-scale up
53:35.4
ang nakakaharness niyan
53:36.7
ay yung mga tulpo.
53:42.6
Kaya kung meron silang plano,
53:45.4
Pero kailangan nila talagang
53:47.2
As an alternative.
53:51.0
Or as a fourth pole.
53:53.2
Maraming ibig sabihin na
53:54.5
maraming silang kailangan gawin.
53:58.1
When you talk about
53:58.8
the opposition ngayon,
54:00.1
Yan ba yung pink na suot
54:05.6
Hindi na uubra eh.
54:07.2
So, what's their brand?
54:08.7
What's their brand?
54:09.9
What do they stand for?
54:12.2
Paano makakarelate dyan
54:13.3
ang mga karaniwang tao?
54:18.6
Doon nakakarelate
54:22.7
they have to create
54:24.1
not only a brand,
54:25.7
kung hindi yung mga
54:28.3
na kasama ng brand.
54:30.7
May bagong radio show
54:32.9
Yung tatlong senatoriables
54:34.1
ng totoong opposition.
54:34.7
It's a good start.
54:36.7
Meron silang DCRH,
54:38.8
merong Radio Benitas.
54:40.1
It's a good start.
54:42.9
filing of candidacy na.
54:49.8
in a couple of months,
54:50.8
nakikita mo na yung
54:52.6
Magkakaroon ko na ng
54:59.4
nasan dyan yung opposition?
55:01.8
Parang hindi mo masyadong
55:05.6
Senator Jontiveros.
55:07.0
Pero hindi naman siya
55:08.0
Baka ang strategy nila,
55:09.3
Ronald's Comfort.
55:10.2
Hindi siya kandidato eh.
55:11.3
Ang pinaka-prominent kasi
55:12.7
si Senator Jontiveros.
55:14.3
Pero hindi naman siya
55:14.9
kandidato sa midterms.
55:16.9
where are the candidates?
55:19.1
Baka ang style nila is
55:20.3
let them demolish
55:22.1
cancel out each other,
55:22.9
and then we come from
55:23.8
the ashes of that.
55:24.8
Parang ganon siguro.
55:26.1
let's not forget,
55:26.7
Duterte's victory in 2016
55:28.5
nagdudurugan yung tatlo.
55:30.2
Abinay versus Mar
55:33.1
Baka they're hoping
55:33.8
na they'll pull off something
55:35.6
tong dalawa na to.
55:37.1
they will rise through
55:38.1
the ashes of the two,
55:40.0
two major houses.
55:42.1
Do you think there's
55:42.6
may ganon optimism
55:44.5
or wishful thinking?
55:46.0
Ang sinasabi ko nga,
55:48.2
are the tool for it.
55:49.6
They may be too late.
55:53.6
na nagmamaksimize
55:56.0
ng ganong klaseng
55:57.0
objective situation,
56:01.4
merong nagmamaksimize eh.
56:03.0
Merong subjective force,
56:07.3
Objective condition
56:08.8
at subjective force.
56:09.3
Dahil may hegel ako dito.
56:11.7
nag-interplay na yan.
56:13.2
may objective condition
56:14.4
at merong subjective force
56:17.2
ng objective condition
56:18.3
for a third poll.
56:20.9
whether they are doing it
56:24.1
ang nagpipil niyan
56:25.7
ang subjective force
56:27.1
na nagmamaksimize
56:28.0
ng objective condition
56:29.3
are the tool for it.
56:33.4
kasi nung nagbibideographer
56:35.2
napapagod yata siya
56:36.1
at saka paalis ka na
56:37.1
kaya hindi kita natanong masyado.
56:39.2
ipupush na kita ngayon,
56:41.1
yung mga hindi nanood
56:42.3
ilustrado restaurant cafe
56:49.8
this is what I'm gonna say,
56:50.9
What I'm gonna say is,
56:53.7
but how do you compete
56:56.0
you're not gonna do
56:56.5
what they're doing.
56:57.6
magbubentulfo style ka
57:00.3
sa abandoned warehouse.
57:02.4
Tapos maghamunan ka,
57:07.1
mumurahin mo yung police general.
57:09.2
You cannot compete
57:10.2
with them on that,
57:11.3
Parang na-coordinate
57:11.9
nila yung market na yan
57:12.9
and do you really want
57:13.7
to compete with them
57:17.2
in an environment
57:18.1
where bentang-benta
57:19.2
itong mga scruffy,
57:21.7
I'm just being nice,
57:24.5
what is the space
57:25.8
for the opposition
57:27.7
if you cannot co-opt them,
57:29.8
if you cannot co-opt
57:32.6
ang sigurado ko kasi
57:39.2
lang yung error, eh.
57:41.1
para sa opposition?
57:42.4
Pwede ka mag-try lang.
57:43.8
Pero kung tahimik ka,
57:45.1
paano ka magkakaroon
57:46.8
ng learning curve?
57:48.6
ano ba yung brand
57:52.0
pwedeng tangkilikin
57:55.3
yun naman sinasabi ko, eh.
58:01.8
Waiting to get lucky.
58:10.9
mag-analyze sila.
58:11.9
What's the terrain?
58:20.0
ang tawag ko nga dyan,
58:23.5
was a glorious defeat.
58:30.0
was a phyric victory.
58:32.1
Kaya nakikita natin,
58:33.3
it has no substance, eh.
58:34.8
At dahil walang substance,
58:36.2
nagkabiyak-biyak agad, no?
58:46.8
the new opposition
58:49.2
yung mga Duterte opposition.
58:52.7
hindi ko sigurado
58:57.1
to be consolidated,
59:01.8
after the election.
59:03.9
Hindi lang yari yun, eh.
59:05.1
Hindi lang yari yun.
59:06.8
pwede pa silang balikan?
59:10.8
it could have been
59:12.4
I completely agree with you, Raul.
59:14.1
I completely agree with you, Raul.
59:14.1
I completely agree with you, Raul.
59:14.1
A pirit-pirit victory,
59:21.4
my contention is that
59:25.4
maungiganting dynasty
59:27.4
is because, well,
59:28.0
hindi sila threatened
59:28.6
by the opposition.
59:29.5
So, there was a kind of,
59:30.2
I won't say blessing in disguise,
59:32.1
unintended consequence.
59:35.1
what's done is done, okay?
59:36.4
Ang point ko ngayon is,
59:38.4
let's talk about this.
59:40.2
Bama Kino, for instance,
59:41.6
you can be the guy who
59:42.7
takes up the call
59:44.1
and reminds the nation
59:46.8
contribution of the Akinos.
59:48.9
For everything you can say
59:50.3
hindi sila mga matay-tao,
59:51.4
hindi sila kurakot,
59:53.5
yung bahayan nila
59:54.1
in ways that I cannot say
59:55.6
about many other dynasties,
59:58.5
can come in and say,
59:59.8
ano bang klaseng justisya
60:01.2
yung binabastos ng pulis,
60:04.8
you want a legit lawyer,
60:06.0
someone who really fights
60:07.4
Yung something a little bit
60:10.5
Pangilinan can come in
60:12.3
and he's a veteran,
60:14.0
maybe talk more about
60:17.8
what do you think
60:18.5
specifically each of them
60:19.7
in terms of niche?
60:21.8
pwedeng-pwedeng kang
60:25.5
Dahil sinisimula mo
60:28.6
yung tanong mo eh,
60:30.0
Yan yung mga elements
60:31.8
na learning curve,
60:34.1
hindi yan mangyayari
60:36.6
Pwede yung trial and error,
60:42.6
akyat ka na naman,
60:46.3
paano masusubukan?
60:47.5
How can you test that out?
60:49.3
Ang nagtetest out niyan,
60:55.5
na wala rin balak tumakbo,
60:58.2
natatakbo sa lokal,
60:59.3
hindi naman sa national.
61:05.7
yung mga tatakbo,
61:06.5
hindi lagi scale up.
61:08.0
doon ako medyo pan,
61:11.8
madali naman talaga ako
61:13.4
hindi katulad ni Richard,
61:14.8
na hirap makonfuse.
61:17.4
Very solid yung pan yan,
61:20.2
madali ako makonfuse,
61:23.7
sabi nga ni Robin Hood Padilla,
61:25.5
litong-lito na siya,
61:26.9
litong-lito na siya,
61:30.4
Sinayos na yung bigote niya.
61:31.7
Sa mga nangyayari,
61:32.7
naihilo na daw siya,
61:39.7
tsaka kung kulang yung laman ng utak mo.
61:45.3
Sir Ronald Dio Manoy.
61:48.9
I completely agree with you na
61:50.3
you have to be experimental,
61:51.6
you have to be brave,
61:52.4
you have to reach out.
61:53.2
And speak of reaching out,
61:54.5
do you think may problema
61:55.5
yung mga ibang opposition
61:56.5
na masyado silang purist,
61:58.0
masyado silang sensitive?
62:03.3
I'm not gonna name names,
62:04.2
but I've heard from a lot of people
62:05.7
that I didn't expect it from,
62:07.7
narinig ko through
62:08.7
secondary sources na
62:10.8
ang dami nag-complain na,
62:12.4
nung tumakbo si Lenny,
62:13.6
hindi sila nag-reach out
62:15.4
maraming mga influencers,
62:18.1
who would be more than happy
62:19.3
to contribute to the movement.
62:21.3
parang hindi sila yung kinakausang,
62:26.4
nang nag-interview sa kanya.
62:27.7
I cannot remember if Lenny
62:29.2
giving an interview to one,
62:30.4
Ang problema kasi nung Lenny campaign,
62:31.6
they decided too late eh.
62:34.1
Nag-decision si Lenny tumakbo
62:35.5
during the filing of candidacy.
62:37.7
Imagine kung meron silang
62:39.9
or one year earlier,
62:41.6
yung mga bagay na yan
62:43.7
na nagpa-fall in the cracks,
62:48.0
imbis na isang cluttered messaging,
62:50.7
baka mas may focus.
62:52.3
Katulad nila BBM.
62:54.3
Sila BBM mas may focus
62:56.0
dahil matagal sila naghanda eh.
62:58.3
They were preparing for two decades,
63:00.4
for more than two decades.
63:02.7
yun yung isang kaibahan.
63:06.5
at least six months earlier,
63:07.7
baka yung mga ganyang mga bagay,
63:09.8
sino yung kakausapin,
63:10.9
sino yung hihimukin,
63:12.4
paano ba yung messaging
63:15.5
yan baka nasagot.
63:17.4
Mas maganda kung one year earlier
63:21.4
You're campaigning for the flag.
63:25.4
Yung highest political position.
63:28.1
You cannot do that overnight.
63:30.2
You cannot do that overnight.
63:31.4
Kailangan mo ng panahon
63:32.4
para pag-aakwa niya.
63:34.0
Alam mo ba ngayon,
63:35.1
meron kang four years.
63:36.4
Meron kang four years.
63:38.4
Meron kang one year
63:39.5
before the midterm.
63:40.7
Ayun, gamitin mo.
63:43.3
hindi ko nakikita.
63:45.8
Kaya ka dapat kunin ka nila
63:47.8
dahil yung mga sinasabi mo kanina,
63:51.7
pinag-uusapan nila eh.
63:53.8
Yun ang dapat pinag-uusapan nila.
63:55.3
Yung mga bagay nila.
63:55.8
I'm sure they're so magaling
63:57.3
and they have thought about it.
63:58.2
Ako kasi platter lang ako eh.
63:59.0
Platter lang ako eh.
64:00.9
iniimbita ka pa dun sa kapitbahay
64:04.7
hindi ako ano eh.
64:09.2
how should I put it?
64:13.0
I think there's also
64:13.6
the other problem
64:14.4
of some people thinking
64:17.7
diba sabi mo kanina
64:18.7
may pagkabaka naman
64:20.0
ang strategy yung
64:21.5
yung mga DDS minsan.
64:23.7
meron din silang tendency na
64:25.5
eventually mananalo din kami
64:27.0
in a teleological sense
64:28.4
or something like that.
64:29.1
Maybe there's also
64:29.7
the tendency to think
64:33.6
that the pendulum will swing
64:34.8
in the direction of justice
64:37.6
Baka may gano'n din silang,
64:39.6
you know what I'm saying,
64:42.0
Para mga milleniarist.
64:43.4
Para mga milleniarist
64:44.5
Baka may pagkagano'n sila,
64:47.0
Para mga milleniarist na,
64:50.2
Yeah, I won't say
64:50.8
millenarian per se,
64:52.1
but I think there's that
64:55.0
we're talking about.
64:55.8
We're not talking about leftists.
64:56.7
Meron silang gano'n na
64:59.1
decency will prevail.
65:01.3
the arc of justice
65:04.2
the arc of history
65:05.2
will bend towards justice
65:06.1
if you fight for it.
65:07.1
And you have to fight
65:07.7
for it constantly.
65:08.9
That's the sock them
65:09.8
way of looking at it.
65:11.8
Which is different
65:13.1
I think there's always
65:19.3
they're just gonna,
65:20.7
dig their own graves.
65:22.7
Sometimes you have to
65:24.2
that grave that they dug
65:25.3
for themselves, right?
65:26.2
It's not gonna work
65:28.2
It's not an oriflame
65:29.9
filled with noble deeds
65:35.6
unrelenting universe
65:40.7
Kailangan ko na si
65:41.3
Taylor Calvin, no?
65:42.5
Yung kinukuhin niya
65:46.4
political warfare
65:48.2
is like that, eh.
65:51.1
simply romantic, eh.
65:55.1
you fight lunatics,
65:56.8
you fight scoundrels,
65:58.3
You fight bad people, eh.
66:02.4
yeah, and they're zombies.
66:03.5
They don't go away.
66:04.3
You beat them in one election,
66:05.6
they come back again.
66:07.0
You don't compromise
66:09.1
but you don't use
66:10.7
as a strategy, no?
66:17.3
Parang yung ginagawa
66:18.9
Kaya, ganong klaseng element
66:20.4
yung politika natin,
66:23.8
Nobody will take you seriously, no?
66:25.6
Pag nag-negotiate ka
66:32.4
bahagi nung respect
66:34.5
hindi ka nila pwedeng lukohin,
66:36.7
Because you're not
66:37.6
pie-in-the-sky romantic
66:42.8
dapat maramdaman din nila
66:44.4
na kaya mo rin kumurot.
66:46.6
Kaya mo rin, ah...
66:47.5
You have to play the game.
66:48.7
You have to be pragmatic ideas.
66:50.3
You can also be a threat.
66:51.6
You should also be a threat, no?
66:55.1
Ganito sa Ronald, ah.
66:56.5
Ulitin natin in person.
66:57.8
Dapat nang-costume tayo ulit.
66:59.5
Meron na tayong script.
67:00.8
Parang si Batay, sorry.
67:01.7
Meron na tayong script.
67:03.5
Alright, I'm that not.
67:04.7
Parang mga samurai.
67:05.9
Ruthless, pero may code.
67:06.7
Oh, medyo tayong...
67:11.8
Natapos mo na yung Shogun.
67:15.1
Wala akong subscription.
67:17.5
These are ruthless warriors.
67:19.5
They have a code.
67:21.0
They have a code.
67:22.1
Load yung mga yan.
67:23.6
Wait lang, paano pinapanood?
67:28.7
Sige, Disney Channel, eh.
67:30.2
Wala akong subscription.
67:31.7
Ayun, eh. Mahal, eh.
67:33.6
150 pesos per month pa yun.
67:37.8
Baka naman may account dyan
67:39.4
na gusto mag-share sa atin.
67:40.9
Pang Shogun lang, eh.
67:41.8
Balik ko sa inyo.
67:43.0
Palitan niyo yung passport
67:43.9
pag natapos ko na yung Shogun.
67:46.2
Okay, Sir Ronald.
67:47.1
Thank you so much.
67:47.9
I really appreciate this.
67:49.2
Anyway, we build on our discussion.
67:50.6
But don't worry, Sir Ronald.
67:52.2
On the sides of my other work,
67:53.9
I'm still editing it.
67:55.1
Hoy, nilagyan ko ng caption yung iba, ha.
67:57.0
Inaayos-ayos ko na yung auto-auto.
67:59.3
Mga inaayos-ayos ko na.
68:00.2
Ako sa caption, eh.
68:02.0
Inaayos ko nga siya.
68:04.0
Parang pinaganda ko yung iba, di ba?
68:06.6
Para pang international,
68:08.3
pang afam yung mga captions natin.
68:11.2
thank you very much, Sir Ronald.
68:12.5
And hopefully, let's arrange something
68:14.7
before the end of the month
68:15.8
in person again with Mark.
68:18.3
Either sa UP or somewhere else.
68:21.8
Nagawa mo na yung Barbero.
68:23.1
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68:24.6
Nagawa mo na yung Ilustrado.
68:26.0
So maghanap tayo ng bagong tema.
68:28.3
Thank you so much.
68:29.7
And talk to you soon.
68:34.4
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68:35.1
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68:37.1
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68:50.9
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68:52.5
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68:53.6
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